Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-10 Thread Niklas Matthies
Brett, the CVS plugin is provided by the "Certified Plugins" Update Center: http://updates.netbeans.org/netbeans/updates/8.2/uc/final/certified/catalog.xml.gz (See also in NetBeans under Tools -> Plugins -> Settings) Certified plugins actually have a higher status than plugins in the Plugin

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-10 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 03/10/2018 05:16 PM, Brett Ryan wrote: > Did you import settings? Nope. > I don’t know how you all are getting cvs. When I do a fresh install > with the same I don’t get it and it doesn’t appear in the plugin > portal. > >> On 11 Mar 2018, at 09:39, Glenn Holmer wrote:

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-10 Thread emiddio-frontier
Additionally see the attached gif of the repositories that plugins come from in my nb9beta. On 3/10/2018 6:04 PM, emiddio-frontier wrote: I usually use import settings. But just to check i just deleted cache and profile dirs of my nb90beta. Then start netbeans and go to

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-10 Thread emiddio-frontier
I usually use import settings. But just to check i just deleted cache and profile dirs of my nb90beta. Then start netbeans and go to tools/plugins/available plugins, click the NAME column to sort by name and look for CVS - It is there. -Gary On 3/10/2018 3:16 PM, Brett Ryan wrote: Did you

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-10 Thread Brett Ryan
Did you import settings? I don’t know how you all are getting cvs. When I do a fresh install with the same I don’t get it and it doesn’t appear in the plugin portal. > On 11 Mar 2018, at 09:39, Glenn Holmer wrote: > >> On 03/10/2018 04:19 PM, Brett Ryan wrote: >> If you

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-10 Thread Don Albertson
On 03/09/2018 08:31 PM, Jerry Nicholson wrote: "It’s important for all technology that we don’t hold back younger generations by supporting legacy as it slows evolution of technology." I could not disagree more. It is important for youngsters to consider the amount of commitment to a

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Brett Ryan
Yes, it IS deprecated [1]. Archived features means we no longer provide direct support. [1]: http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansArchivedFeatures > On 10 Mar 2018, at 14:15, Niklas Matthies wrote: > > Nowhere does it say that CVS support is deprecated. It only isn't

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Niklas Matthies
Nowhere does it say that CVS support is deprecated. It only isn't installed by default any more. Niklas On Sat 2018-03-10 at 13:16h, Brett Ryan wrote on users: > Again, when netbeans actually announced it 6 years ago! You must have > installed the external plugin. > >

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Brett Ryan
Again, when netbeans actually announced it 6 years ago! You must have installed the external plugin. http://wiki.netbeans.org/CVSSupport > On 10 Mar 2018, at 12:48, emiddio-frontier wrote: > > Completely agree (keep CVS) - last job only recently moved from cvs to git. >

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Brett Ryan
> On 10 Mar 2018, at 12:02, Thomas Wolf wrote: > > "How are you even using CVS" - because it's there?! See attached screen > shots. It's even labeled "Base IDE", which makes it look pretty darn > integral rather than externalized. I installed NB 8.2 on a brand new Mac

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread emiddio-frontier
Completely agree (keep CVS) - last job only recently moved from cvs to git. Netbeans is not just used to develop new projects and new code. It is used with existing code bases and companies with long lived projects. My vote again keep SVN, and continue to offer the CSV support that exists. My

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Brett Ryan
Since CVS is an external plugin we do not need it tested. SVN on the other hand does need to be tested as it’s still part of the core, I’ve mentioned this a couple times now. It is interesting hearing the commentary on perceptions of DVCS solutions (Git, hg). Both of these are far easier to

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Thomas Wolf
I can join NetCAT since there’s a shortage of CVS users, but I’m not sure I will be able to do extensive testing since, as I mentioned, I only use CVS when accessing the company’s other projects. But under the motto “something is better than nothing”... tom > On Mar 9, 2018, at 10:54 AM,

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
The support for CVS is provided as a separate plugin and has been for years. It’s really interesting to hear from various people in this thread that they’re making use of this feature. Would be great to have a few of them join the NetCAT program to give feedback on how the CVS plugin works in the

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread Philip Wasson
What he said. We're using SVN for lots of projects, and switching to Git is not worth the effort in our situation. Plus, SVN offers some things that Git doesn't, such as fine-grained access controls, so Git isn't even an option in every situation. > On Mar 8, 2018, at 09:05, Eduard

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-09 Thread David Cogen
On 03/08/2018 07:25 AM, Brett Ryan wrote: I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken out in 7.? I would be EXTREMELY inconvenienced if CVS or SVN support were removed from netbeans. Here were still use both extensively. (We use git too, but our CVS isn't going

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Jerry Nicholson
Yes, meant to say SAF. Jerry Nicholson Mlink.com LLC 603.523.8398 On 3/8/2018 4:02 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Jerry Nicholson wrote: Virtually our entire product line uses Swing and that was killed off. That was also a bad idea. Are you talking

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread cowwoc
On 2018-03-08 12:08 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote: On 03/08/2018 07:36 AM, Brett Ryan wrote: On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used. It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use. Unsupported plugins

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan
> at this time. > > From: Claus Lüthje [mailto:claus.luet...@thetop.ch] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:48 PM > To: Dawn Raison <d...@lemur.co.uk> > Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS? > > Absolutely. &g

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread don
On 03/08/2018 08:48 AM, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Brett Ryan schrieb am 08.03.2018 um 14:36: On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used. It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use. Unsupported

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 03/08/2018 07:36 AM, Brett Ryan wrote: >> On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer wrote: >> >> Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used. > > It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use. > Unsupported plugins available to provide capability is

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Paul Franz
The dev list seems to agree with you. Paul Franz Senior Principal Applications Engineer Oracle Transportation Management On 8 Mar 2018, at 11:28, Niklas Matthies wrote: SVN is still widely used within companies, including my workplace. In many such environments with long-running projects

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Niklas Matthies
SVN is still widely used within companies, including my workplace. In many such environments with long-running projects involving hundreds of SVN modules, the benefits of Git do not outweigh the cost of switching and the additional usage complexity Git brings about. SVN will stay relevant for

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Eduard
I'm using SVN. I'd be against removing SVN support from NB, doing would greatly reduce the usefulnes of NB for me. -- Eduard David Heffelfinger wrote: Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers. David On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Wade Chandler
This is a discussion for the dev channel whether to remove something or not. The data should tell us if we should remove something or not; first step. Too, it is another Apache top level project. Thanks Wade On Mar 8, 2018 08:36, "Brett Ryan" wrote: > > > On 8 Mar 2018,

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread David Heffelfinger
Thanks for bringing this up, I'll discuss with the NetCAT organizers. David On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Brett Ryan wrote: > > > On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger > wrote: > > We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at >

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan
> On 9 Mar 2018, at 00:34, David Heffelfinger wrote: > > We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view. You can remove cvs, just checked, it was removed in 7.1 RC1. I vote we remove svn also.

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 23:28, Thomas Kellerer wrote: > > Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used. It shouldn’t be, and we should discourage its continued use. Unsupported plugins available to provide capability is how it should be handled. I treat svn/cvs like

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread David Heffelfinger
We have Test Specifications for both CVS and SVN at http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/tribe/32/view. None of the NetCAT 9.0 Version Control tribe members have access to CVS or SVN repositories to test against, that's why we're looking for volunteers. David On Thu, Mar 8, 2018

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Deprecate Subversion? Really? This is still wildly used. Brett Ryan schrieb am 08.03.2018 um 13:25: > I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken > out in 7.? > > On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger

Re: Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread Brett Ryan
I thought we deprecated both of these years ago? Actually wasn’t CVS taken out in 7.? > On 8 Mar 2018, at 21:56, David Heffelfinger wrote: > > All, > > This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers > that are using NetBeans with CVS or

Do you use NetBeans with SVN or CVS?

2018-03-08 Thread David Heffelfinger
All, This year I'm leading the NetCAT Version Control Tribe. We need volunteers that are using NetBeans with CVS or SVN to help us test integration with these two VCS tools. If you are using NetBeans with either one, we could really use your help. Please sign up at