Re: Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-19 Thread bruehlicke
After days of testing we managed to get the default Nb8.2 install to behave in the same flickering way after removing this JVM argument from netbeans,conf. I can only conclude this argument is a MUST TO HAVE even though I have no idea what it really is doing, adding it to my RCP's conf file did

Re: Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-11 Thread bruehlicke
Possible solution: Add -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true to startup JVM arguments. We did try to run Nb8.2 out-of-the-box on the Alienware and it did not show the flickering/window-dropping as with the RCP app. Checking the netbeans.conf we did see the -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true which the RCP

Re: Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-08 Thread bruehlicke
All Swing. On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 11:33 AM Eric Bresie wrote: > Wanted to confirm...is this Swing or JFX? If jfx that was deprecated > along the line. > > Eric Bresie > ebre...@gmail.com > > On May 7, 2021 at 11:35:17 AM CDT, bruehlicke > wrote: > I was able to capture the behavior on video

Re: Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-08 Thread Eric Bresie
Wanted to confirm...is this Swing or JFX? If jfx that was deprecated along the line. Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com (mailto:ebre...@gmail.com) > On May 7, 2021 at 11:35:17 AM CDT, bruehlicke (mailto:bruehli...@gmail.com)> wrote: > I was able to capture the behavior on video ... attached.

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-07 Thread Admin @ Goodun
On Fri, 2021-05-07 at 07:26 -0500, bruehlicke wrote: > Bummer, still happens with jdk 11. It is the entire outer window > which jumps and leaves droppings/copies of itself when fx moving > mouse accross  I start wondering if there is a problem with the > laptop. On the other hand it only happens

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-07 Thread bruehlicke
... ok (naive) as I expected. With OpenJdk16 the RCP only launches the splash screen and hereafter dies ... ok so jdk11 is the upper limit. Good to know. I will gather the exact specs of the laptop as well as install Nb8.2 on it to see if it fails just using Nb82. out of the box. B-) On Fri,

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-07 Thread bruehlicke
Thanx Geertjan, I have the strong feeling this is application independent and hence I will simply run Nb8.2 on the Alienware and see if it fails just using Nb8.2. I will keep you posted. First I go the naive way (hope) and try jdk16 ... ;-) On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 7:27 AM Geertjan Wielenga <

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Can you create a small Swing app to try to reproduce there? Gj On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 14:26, bruehlicke wrote: > Bummer, still happens with jdk 11. It is the entire outer window which > jumps and leaves droppings/copies of itself when fx moving mouse accross I > start wondering if there is a

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-07 Thread bruehlicke
Bummer, still happens with jdk 11. It is the entire outer window which jumps and leaves droppings/copies of itself when fx moving mouse accross I start wondering if there is a problem with the laptop. On the other hand it only happens with the NetBeans RPC app. Regardless if using Nvidea card or

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-06 Thread bruehlicke
Laszlo,, you are a hero ! I downloaded the OpenJDK 11 and just copied the entire folder into my NetBeans 8.2 RCP app (build on jdk8) and renamed the jkd11 folder to "jre" - Voila ! I just love Java, it surprises me even again and again even after coding for 2 decades with it. Of course,

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-06 Thread bruehlicke
Ahh, ok good point ! I will try running NetBeans with jdk 11 (OpenJdk) on the Alienware and see how it goes. Thank you for your interest and suggestion. Bests Bernd On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:24 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > I'd put my bet on the JDK AWT VRAM handling, so when I suggested

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-06 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
I'd put my bet on the JDK AWT VRAM handling, so when I suggested upgrade JDK, I meant upgrading it to a more recent version than 1.8. I'd Try JDK 11 first, if that's still do not work I'd test more recent ones... On 5/6/21 8:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Maybe Swing-specific, so try

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Maybe Swing-specific, so try reproduce with another Swing app or create a new small Swing app yourself to reproduce the problem. Gj On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 16:55, bruehlicke wrote: > Thanx. Tried 1.8u202 (latest I can use without commercial license) and it > happened as well after a while. Hmm

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-06 Thread bruehlicke
Thanx. Tried 1.8u202 (latest I can use without commercial license) and it happened as well after a while. Hmm ... currently only on Alienware laptop. ... wicket. Anyhow here running NetBeans on a Gaming laptop having trouble ? It looks like a generic problem and hence just running NetBeans

Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-05 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Try to upgrade your JDK On 5/5/21 7:53 AM, bruehlicke wrote: We have a mature NetBeans 8.2 app with Java 1.8u112 running on Win 10 without any problems. Now we got an Alienware and from time to time the app becomes unusable as the different windows within the app are moving randomly around

NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-05 Thread bruehlicke
We have a mature NetBeans 8.2 app with Java 1.8u112 running on Win 10 without any problems. Now we got an Alienware and from time to time the app becomes unusable as the different windows within the app are moving randomly around when fx just moving the mouse. I do not want to use the work