RE: SA3.0.2, rewrite and transform spam

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:21 PM 1/27/2005, Rakotomandimby (R12y) Mihamina wrote: ( Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:04:47 -0500 ) Chris Santerre : If I misunderstood this, I'm sorry. But can you sip the first server from scanning the messege with SA? Seems the logical solution. Not really. Because SA still have tu run on the

Re: Spamassassin Reporting Qn

2005-01-28 Thread Loren Wilton
Title: RE: Spamassassin Reporting Qn Don't have the users FORWARD the mail to the account of the SA box. That will screw things up, especially with Exchange. Instead, make a public folder on the SA box, probably IMAP, and have users COPY or MOVE spam messages into this folder. They can do

Re: how to call procmail for spam delete?

2005-01-28 Thread KyleReynolds
I have it working now. Does this seem to make sense? Does anyone see any potential performance issues with this? I changed the master.cf from this:

Re: Regular expression expanding

2005-01-28 Thread Loren Wilton
I'm trying to get my head around regular _expression_ matching. body MANGLED_CASH /(?!cash)\b[cǩ\(][_\W]{0,[EMAIL PROTECTED],5}[sz5\$][_\W]{0,5}h\b/i My understanding of rule matching was that the '(?!cash' bit required an | (or) in order to work. Can anyone break down

Re: Spamassassin conflits - help me please! (SOLVED!)

2005-01-28 Thread Loren Wilton
I've been seeing a LOT of reports recently of problems caused by the standard rules being in /etc/spamassassin or /etc/mail/spamassassin, something that should not happen. I'm wondering if it's old broken distro packages, or user error... It might be worth adding a few lines to the SA startup

Re: how to call procmail for spam delete?

2005-01-28 Thread KyleReynolds
I got a little carried away... Procmail is now moving everything tagged spam to the spam folder like it is supposed to, but anything that does match the spam tag is getting bounced... Kyle Reynolds 972-731-4731 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Regular expression expanding

2005-01-28 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Richard, Thursday, January 27, 2005, 6:23:53 AM, you wrote: GR I'm trying to get my head around regular expression matching. GR body MANGLED_CASH GR /(?!cash)\b[cǩ\(][_\W]{0,[EMAIL PROTECTED],5}[sz5\$][_\W]{0,5}h\b/i GR My understanding of rule matching was that the '(?!cash' bit

Re: Regular expression expanding

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:23 AM 1/27/2005, Gray, Richard wrote: body MANGLED_CASH/(?!cash)\b[cǩ\(][_\W]{0,[EMAIL PROTECTED],5}[sz5\$][_\W]{0,5}h\b/i My understanding of rule matching was that the '(?!cash' bit required an | (or) in order to work. Can anyone break down the logic of how SA tests this line? Heh.. I

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Kelson wrote: 1. You sign up for a group about vintage widgets. 2. Spammer sends a message to your vintage widget list. 3. You get the spam through a whitelisted, opt-in channel. 4. List members owner get up in arms, flame war ensues over whether the list should be closed or kept open, whether

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, January 27, 2005, 8:01:46 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Kelson wrote: 1. You sign up for a group about vintage widgets. 2. Spammer sends a message to your vintage widget list. 3. You get the spam through a whitelisted, opt-in channel. 4. List members owner get up in arms, flame war

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread Loren Wilton
One interesting tidbit -- a group I manage used to get hit by Step 6 style spam pretty regularly. I turned on first post requires moderator approval. Interestingly enough, I haven't had to reject any spam. Apparently just turning on that flag is enough to ward off a lot of spammers. Then

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Loren Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then again, I belong to a fairly esoteric list that requires a conversation with the moderator in able to even be able to join the list. Part of the conversation is stating that you Will Not Spam. About one in 5 new members is a spammer, and gets

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, January 27, 2005, 8:50:25 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Loren Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then again, I belong to a fairly esoteric list that requires a conversation with the moderator in able to even be able to join the list. Part of the conversation is stating that you Will

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Jeff Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yahoo Groups has a moderate new members setting which leaves new members in a moderated state until the owner manually changes it. It's a deterrent against spam since initial posts are moderated. Works great. I've been a moderator too many times, that's

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, January 27, 2005, 9:34:09 PM, Daniel Quinlan wrote: Jeff Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yahoo Groups has a moderate new members setting which leaves new members in a moderated state until the owner manually changes it. It's a deterrent against spam since initial posts are

Re: Whitelisting Groups/Lists

2005-01-28 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, January 27, 2005, 9:51:41 PM, Jeff Chan wrote: As a practical matter an N of 1 seems to stop most spammers and probably prevents most from even trying in the first place, which is even better. (But that's with the manual un-moderating, and not auto un-moderating.) Jeff C. --

SARE: Subject header rules updated

2005-01-28 Thread Robert Menschel
Just a quick note that the SARE subject header files, 70_sare_genlsubj*.cf, have been updated. Information and links at http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm#genlsubj Bob Menschel

RE: Regular expression expanding

2005-01-28 Thread Gray, Richard
Loren, Bob, Mike Awesome explanations! Mike hit the nail on the head for the bit that I was uncertain about, but the explanations cleared up a lot of extra uncertainty surrounding the whole thing. Thanks for your help, Richard -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL

Scalar modifiers

2005-01-28 Thread Gray, Richard
Hi all, I'd like to implement within SpamAssassin (2.64) the ability to scale a spam score based on a certain rule (specifically, I want to scale the spam score by 1.5 if its from an IP listed as a DUL) My basic theory is that if I take every rule and build a meta rule from it that includes the

HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-28 Thread Ole Nomann Thomsen
Hi, it seems that HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR fires wrongly on this header: Received: from bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com[64.4.16.181]:30781 (EHLO hotmail.com) by mailgateway.sitc.dk ([195.231.241.98]:25) (F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail 6.41.149 Release) with SMTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:41:14

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-28 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Ole Nomann Thomsen wrote: Hi, it seems that HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR fires wrongly on this header: Received: from bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com[64.4.16.181]:30781 (EHLO hotmail.com) by mailgateway.sitc.dk ([195.231.241.98]:25) (F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail

Re: Scalar modifiers

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:54 AM 1/28/2005, Gray, Richard wrote: My concern regard processing time. This is basically going to double the number of rules in the SA files. Is SA's meta rule logic greedy? E.g. by putting the DUL rule first if it fails on this will it check the other aspects of the rule? Are there any

Alt text getting through

2005-01-28 Thread Ray Anderson
I made a custom rule in local.cf to score the following with 5: describe custom_body_checksCustom Body Checks score custom_body_checks5 rawbody __bc_0 /%RND_ALT/I meta custom_body_checks ( __bc_0 ) But it is not catching that phrase in the inbound e-mail.

Re: Alt text getting through

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:23 AM 1/28/2005, Ray Anderson wrote: I made a custom rule in local.cf to score the following with 5: describe custom_body_checksCustom Body Checks score custom_body_checks5 rawbody __bc_0 /%RND_ALT/I meta custom_body_checks ( __bc_0 ) But it is not catching

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:23 AM 1/28/2005, Tony Finch wrote: Hi, it seems that HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR fires wrongly on this header: Received: from bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com[64.4.16.181]:30781 (EHLO hotmail.com) by mailgateway.sitc.dk ([195.231.241.98]:25) (F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail 6.41.149

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-28 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler writes: At 09:23 AM 1/28/2005, Tony Finch wrote: Hi, it seems that HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR fires wrongly on this header: Received: from bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com[64.4.16.181]:30781 (EHLO hotmail.com) by mailgateway.sitc.dk

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-28 Thread Tony Finch
Received: from bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com[64.4.16.181]:30781 (EHLO hotmail.com) by mailgateway.sitc.dk ([195.231.241.98]:25) (F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail 6.41.149 Release) with SMTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:41:14 - F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail is

Re: OT - MAPS

2005-01-28 Thread Ade Fewings
Tom Gwilt wrote: Hi, Sorry for the brief off-topic post. Is anyone using MAPS? If so, is it worth the cost? Tom We don't pay for it directly, being ac.uk - Janet pays for it - we use MAPS as one of our Sendmail rejecters. However, in the last ~7 days, in the order we check the lists

bayes db - export/import

2005-01-28 Thread Rodney Green
Hello, I'm setting up a temporary mail server so I can do some work on the regular production machine, without interrupting service. I'd like to copy the bayes db to the temporary mail server so it can continue to be used and continue learning. Will I need to do some special export/import

Re: autolearn never learns ham

2005-01-28 Thread breena
Thank you Matt =). So most of the heuristics seem to be looking for SPAM. What are the ones that would push a mail towards being HAM (and that are not ignored by autolearn bayes)? So far I have found one: ALL_TRUSTED. Thanks! Breena On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:41:12 -0500, Matt Kettler wrote At

Re: bayes db - export/import

2005-01-28 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodney Green writes: Hello, I'm setting up a temporary mail server so I can do some work on the regular production machine, without interrupting service. I'd like to copy the bayes db to the temporary mail server so it can continue to be

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:05 PM 1/28/2005, Tony Finch wrote: Received: from bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com[64.4.16.181]:30781 (EHLO hotmail.com) by mailgateway.sitc.dk ([195.231.241.98]:25) (F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail 6.41.149 Release) with SMTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:41:14 - F-Secure

Re: bayes db - export/import

2005-01-28 Thread Rodney Green
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:48:32 -0800, Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodney Green writes: Hello, I'm setting up a temporary mail server so I can do some work on the regular production machine, without interrupting service. I'd

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR matches wrongly on hotmail

2005-01-28 Thread mouss
Tony Finch wrote: Received: from bay22-dav1.bay22.hotmail.com[64.4.16.181]:30781 (EHLO hotmail.com) by mailgateway.sitc.dk ([195.231.241.98]:25) (F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail 6.41.149 Release) with SMTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:41:14 - The order and spacing of the items after

Re: autolearn never learns ham

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:06 PM 1/28/2005, breena wrote: Thank you Matt =). So most of the heuristics seem to be looking for SPAM. What are the ones that would push a mail towards being HAM (and that are not ignored by autolearn bayes)? So far I have found one: ALL_TRUSTED. A few network tests also qualify:

Re: cannot write to /root/.spamassassin/bayes_journal, Bayes db update ignored: Permission denied

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:26 PM 1/28/2005, Chris Harvey wrote: cannot write to /root/.spamassassin/bayes_journal, Bayes db update ignored: Permission denied This is right after all the bayes token statements. It suggests it's a problem, but I don't seem to be able to fix it. My default bayes location is

Re: OT - MAPS

2005-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:40 PM 1/28/2005, Ade Fewings wrote: We don't pay for it directly, being ac.uk - Janet pays for it - we use MAPS as one of our Sendmail rejecters. However, in the last ~7 days, in the order we check the lists MAPS RBL rejected: 131983 SpamHaus SBL rejected: 8076 Ordb Relays

RE: cannot write to /root/.spamassassin/bayes_journal, Bayes db update ignored: Permission denied

2005-01-28 Thread Chris Harvey
First, I assume you're using a bayes_path statement to force the bayes DB for all users to be in roots homedir. Yep! If so, DO NOT proceed.. In order for your bayes DB to be wide open, ALL users must have r_x access to /root... that's a bad thing that you don't want to give them.

RE: cannot write to /root/.spamassassin/bayes_journal, Bayes db update ignored: Permission denied

2005-01-28 Thread Chris Harvey
Ok, now I'm noticing this Creating default_prefs [/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs] Creating default_prefs [/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs] Is there a file path I can set so that the new working directory is my new .spamassasin directory I created? I specifically set the bayes and the

OT: MailFrontier

2005-01-28 Thread Kelson
Is anyone here familiar with MailFrontier? I got a message from them on Tuesday claiming they'd seen a lot of spam from our mail server's IP address, and that they have marked this IP in [their] central database to protect [their] customers. Following it was a list of hash values and report