Re: Elusive spam

2009-08-13 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
- John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 16:20 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Maybe this will sound dumb but wouldn't it be perfectly safe to blacklist example.com after all, that isn't a domain your ever going to get mail from. Ted That is there because

Re: Bayes training

2009-08-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.08.09 11:32, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Talking about bayes trying, I did setup bayes/SQL and i see all tokens in my db. How ever I dont know if my db has reach the minimun 200 tokens to let bayes testing work. Is there a SQL query to know this number? sa-learn --dumpdb should

Re: Bayes training

2009-08-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:09:59 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: How ever I dont know if my db has reach the minimun 200 tokens to let bayes testing work. Is there a SQL query to know this number? sa-learn --dumpdb should do that if you have correct parameters for the DB...

Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?

2009-08-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 20:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote: I find my users almost never look at the SPAM mailbox On 13.08.09 06:30, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: There is an easy fix for that - take that facility away :-) do you mean, take away spam filtering or the possibility to look at false

whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
My ruleset contains lines like this: ifplugin Mail::Spamassassin::Plugin::DKIM whitelist_from_dkim *...@example.com endif I see DKIM_VERIFIED hit in mails from example.com, but the whitelisting doesn't happen for some reason. What am I doing wrong? /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:41:51 +0200, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: My ruleset contains lines like this: ifplugin Mail::Spamassassin::Plugin::DKIM whitelist_from_dkim *...@example.com endif i would use def_whitelist_from_dkim with wildcard user, just me, but imho better in other words:

Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?

2009-08-13 Thread Mike Cardwell
LuKreme wrote: Got quite a few emails today from users complaining about the huge onslaught of SPAM into their mailboxes. One user in particular is used to getting 2-5 email messages a day and logged in this morning to over 250 in the last 12 hours. So, I investigated. Ooops, I restarted

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Benny Pedersen wrote: I see DKIM_VERIFIED hit in mails from example.com, but the whitelisting doesn't happen for some reason. What am I doing wrong? this should not happend, check spamassassin --lint Yep, I always do before loading a new ruleset, shows no problems. output from

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Per, I see DKIM_VERIFIED hit in mails from example.com, but the whitelisting doesn't happen for some reason. What am I doing wrong? this should not happend, check spamassassin --lint Yep, I always do before loading a new ruleset, shows no problems. output from spamassassin 21

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Mark Martinec wrote: Per, I see DKIM_VERIFIED hit in mails from example.com, but the whitelisting doesn't happen for some reason. What am I doing wrong? this should not happend, check spamassassin --lint Yep, I always do before loading a new ruleset, shows no problems. output

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Per, The lint test-message presumably wouldn't cause DKIM_VERIFIED to hit anyway, but DNS is most definitely enabled. Please send the debug output on a real signed message run, e.g.: spamassassin -D -t test.msg test.log 21 Mark

Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?

2009-08-13 Thread LuKreme
On 12-Aug-2009, at 23:30, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 20:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote: I find my users almost never look at the SPAM mailbox There is an easy fix for that - take that facility away :-) I am tempted. the various SPAM folders are more than half the mail

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Mark Martinec wrote: Per, The lint test-message presumably wouldn't cause DKIM_VERIFIED to hit anyway, but DNS is most definitely enabled. Please send the debug output on a real signed message run, e.g.: spamassassin -D -t test.msg test.log 21 Just ran a test like that -

Re: Elusive spam

2009-08-13 Thread LuKreme
On 12-Aug-2009, at 21:09, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Furthermore, since you may want to munge more than 2 pieces of dissimilar data in a spam, your going to rapidly runout of example.*. Further, example.com is only good for alpha data munging and is useless for numeric data munging, ie: IP

Re: MIME::lite

2009-08-13 Thread LuKreme
On 12-Aug-2009, at 23:40, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: The other day I recall someone mentioning they routinely block anything where the mailer is MIME::Lite. I don't do this myself as any self respecting spammer with more than a quarter of a brain cell is not going to make a slip like

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: One very suspicious line is: dkim: no wl entries match author pen...@belo-news.com, no need to verify sigs Despite my config: ifplugin Mail::Spamassassin::Plugin::DKIM whitelist_from_dkim *...@belo-news.com endif I've done a few more tests - AFAICT, the

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: Per Jessen wrote: One very suspicious line is: dkim: no wl entries match author pen...@belo-news.com, no need to verify sigs Despite my config: ifplugin Mail::Spamassassin::Plugin::DKIM whitelist_from_dkim *...@belo-news.com endif I've done a few more tests -

spamd dying

2009-08-13 Thread LuKreme
I am starting spamd (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd start or spamd -d - r /var/run/spamd.pid -c -s /var/log/spamd) and then a few seconds later it is dying without an error. all I get in /var/log/spamd is: -- A ship should not ride on a single anchor, nor life on a single hope

spamd dying

2009-08-13 Thread LuKreme
I am starting spamd (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd start or spamd -d - r /var/run/spamd.pid -c -s /var/log/spamd) and then a few seconds later it is dying without an error. [Never mind, spamassassin --lint was dying with a core dump. I removed the spear-fishing rules and all is back right

Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?

2009-08-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12-Aug-2009, at 23:30, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 20:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote: I find my users almost never look at the SPAM mailbox There is an easy fix for that - take that facility away :-) On 13.08.09 05:18, LuKreme wrote: I am tempted. the various SPAM

Re: spamd dying

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
On Thursday 13 August 2009 14:13:33 LuKreme wrote: I am starting spamd (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd start or spamd -d - r /var/run/spamd.pid -c -s /var/log/spamd) and then a few seconds later it is dying without an error. [Never mind, spamassassin --lint was dying with a core dump. I removed

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ? [SOLVED]

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: http://jessen.ch/files/belo-news-dkim-testmsg.output3 Notice: # grep cond_clause.*DKIM /tmp/belo-news-dkim-testmsg.output3 dbg: cond_clause_plugin_loaded: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DKIM=1 dbg: cond_clause_plugin_loaded: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DKIM=1 dbg:

Re: [sa] Re: Slightly OT - Spam opprortunities in SMTP-AUTH

2009-08-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, LuKreme wrote: Is it a custom webmail interface you wrote yourself? The front end is custom, wrapping a standard client. Any spammer who personally visited my site would be able to hack it in seconds (with a stolen password, of course). But any existing canned scripts

Re: [sa] Re: Slightly OT - Spam opprortunities in SMTP-AUTH

2009-08-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: you belive that email sent from webmail is harder to spam scan then submitted email from remote ? No, my statement was that I believe spammers, like the rest of us, follow the 20/80 rule, and hack the 80 percent of vulnerabilities that require only

Re: whitelist_from_dkim not whitelisting ?

2009-08-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:01:09 +0200, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: http://jessen.ch/files/sa-lint-debug.txt old Mail::DKIM (0.32) (0.36 latest) and warn on netset Mail::Domainkeys is not needed, check that you dont load it in pre files -- Benny Pedersen

Re: MIME::lite

2009-08-13 Thread Chris Owen
On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:40 AM, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: I noticed this morning that Hampshire County Council use it, and I expect it is part of a 'solution' that many County Councils and Government Bodies use in the UK: X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.021 (F2.74; T1.21; A1.77; B3.07; Q3.07) Date:

Is RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO meant to match helo=2xx.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
I was just wondering - RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO will match helo=2xx4.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com - but is that intentional? It's not exactly a numeric helo? /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: Is RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO meant to match helo=2xx.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: I was just wondering - RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO will match helo=2xx4.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com - but is that intentional? It's not exactly a numeric helo? That should have read helo=2xx.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: Is RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO meant to match helo=2xx.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com ?

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Per Jessen, Per Jessen wrote: I was just wondering - RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO will match helo=2xx4.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com - but is that intentional? It's not exactly a numeric helo? That should have read helo=2xx.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com. Bug 5878

Re: Is RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO meant to match helo=2xx.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com ?

2009-08-13 Thread Per Jessen
Mark Martinec wrote: Per Jessen, Per Jessen wrote: I was just wondering - RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO will match helo=2xx4.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com - but is that intentional? It's not exactly a numeric helo? That should have read helo=2xx.2.2xx.62.fix.example.com. Bug 5878

DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
Hi, I was looking at some kind of open-source DKIM-signing piece of code, and fall into this site: http://www.dkim-reputation.org/ It has nothing to do with what I'm looking for, nevertheless it seemed interesting to me and I wanted to give it a try. Unfortunately, the software they

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Giampaolo, I was looking at some kind of open-source DKIM-signing piece of code, and fall into this site: http://www.dkim-reputation.org/ It has nothing to do with what I'm looking for, nevertheless it seemed interesting to me and I wanted to give it a try. Unfortunately, the

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:04:04 +0200, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: Don't know how/if the project has progressed meanwhile. If anyone is interested, I can send him the DKIMrep.pm. i like to try it -- Benny Pedersen

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Don't know how/if the project has progressed meanwhile. If anyone is interested, I can send him the DKIMrep.pm. i like to try it Sent off-list. Mark

Postgresql operator does not exist: character = bytea at character 148

2009-08-13 Thread Tobias Lott
Good Day Im having problems with Spamassassin Bayes using Postgresql as Backend. SA perfectly learns HamSpam as you can see: bayesstore=# select count(*) from bayes_seen; count --- 2669 Debugging output seems fine too: spamassassin -D ~/some_allready_learned.eml Returns: [91874] dbg:

RE: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
-Original Message- From: Mark Martinec [mailto:mark.martinec...@ijs.si] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:04 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: DKIM-Reputation list Giampaolo, ...omissis... Back in April (2009) I send to Florian Sager my version of the

New image spams

2009-08-13 Thread Chris Owen
I'm sure I'm not the first to see them but I hadn't seen a post here. The pharma image spams are back after a long break: http://pastebin.com/mb1876f6 Like the others they are fairly easily blocked but just thought I'd pass on what I'd seen. Chris

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Tobias Lott
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:13:31 +0200 Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: Don't know how/if the project has progressed meanwhile. If anyone is interested, I can send him the DKIMrep.pm. i like to try it Sent off-list. Mark I'm interested too, thanks in advance --

Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?

2009-08-13 Thread LuKreme
On 13-Aug-2009, at 06:15, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: 7 days is imho not enough. IF users forget to look at it, I'd give them at leaast a month... 7 days seems to work pretty well. If users are desperate and willing to contact an admin, the entire mailspool is duplicated and stored for

Re: spamd dying

2009-08-13 Thread LuKreme
On 13-Aug-2009, at 06:43, Mark Martinec wrote: On Thursday 13 August 2009 14:13:33 LuKreme wrote: I am starting spamd (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd start or spamd -d - r /var/run/spamd.pid -c -s /var/log/spamd) and then a few seconds later it is dying without an error. [Never mind,

SPF warning?

2009-08-13 Thread ɹןʇnqן
Have noticed these errors in the log today: warn: spf: lookup failed: Can't locate object method new_from_string via package Mail::SPF::Mech::IP4 at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/ 5.10.0/Mail/SPF/Record.pm line 225. Googled for: Can't locate object method new_from_string via package

Re: spamd dying

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
LuKreme, I'm considering 3.3, and am currently trying to overcome my aversion to things labeled 'alpha'. Understood. It is mainly labeled as alpha because some new things are not finished (like the new bayesbdb backend to Bayes), and it would be nice to close some stale problem reports (almost

Re: Elusive spam

2009-08-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
LuKreme wrote: On 12-Aug-2009, at 21:09, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Furthermore, since you may want to munge more than 2 pieces of dissimilar data in a spam, your going to rapidly runout of example.*. Further, example.com is only good for alpha data munging and is useless for numeric data

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Tobias, Giampaolo, Bill, and others I'm interested too, thanks in advance I've place it on the web page: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/DKIMrep.pm http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/effectiveTLDs.pm (the effectiveTLDs.pm is exactly the same as in the Florian's package, the DKIMrep.pm

RE: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
Tobias, Giampaolo, Bill, and others I'm interested too, thanks in advance I've place it on the web page: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/DKIMrep.pm http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/effectiveTLDs.pm Aaaah! Surfing time! ...omissis... (albeit interesting) I tested it

Re: [sa] Re: Slightly OT - Spam opprortunities in SMTP-AUTH

2009-08-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Charles Gregory wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: you belive that email sent from webmail is harder to spam scan then submitted email from remote ? No, my statement was that I believe spammers, like the rest of us, follow the 20/80 rule, and hack the 80 percent of

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:06:01 +0200, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: I've place it on the web page: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/DKIMrep.pm http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/effectiveTLDs.pm this file seams buggy, not all lines begins with a ' and others dont end with }

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Benny, http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/effectiveTLDs.pm this file seams buggy, not all lines begins with a ' and others dont end with } but }} hope its just me that cant read perl :) ??? Does perl complain? $ perl effectiveTLDs.pm Mark

giftcardsurveys.us.com

2009-08-13 Thread Johnson, S
I've done really good with blocking spam up until this one... It looks like a legitimate e-mailer from both the system perspective and the system perspective. When I look at my logs, the servers are reporting their domains correctly so their mailserver looks ok when attacking to my server.

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:36:28 +0200, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: Does perl complain? $ perl effectiveTLDs.pm no errors so 'bar' = {}, foo' = {}, 'bar' = {}, is valid for perl ? example in line around 2106 but perl accept it, imho this does not mean that there is no

Re: DKIM-Reputation list

2009-08-13 Thread Bowie Bailey
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:36:28 +0200, Mark Martinec mark.martinec...@ijs.si wrote: Does perl complain? $ perl effectiveTLDs.pm no errors so 'bar' = {}, foo' = {}, 'bar' = {}, is valid for perl ? example in line around 2106 but perl accept it, imho this

Re: giftcardsurveys.us.com

2009-08-13 Thread Kris Deugau
Johnson, S wrote: It looks like a “legitimate” e-mailer from both the system perspective and the system perspective. Er..? Think you meant something other than system perspective somewhere there. g When I look at my logs, the servers are reporting their domains correctly so their

Re: giftcardsurveys.us.com

2009-08-13 Thread Kris Deugau
Johnson, S wrote: The question is… Since everything is configured on their servers ok and the messages don’t contain words I can really create a rule on.. This is one of the few cases where I might well create a local rule for something short: body BAD_SURVEYS/\bGiftCardSurveys\b/

Re: New image spams

2009-08-13 Thread RW
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:38:19 -0500 Chris Owen ow...@hubris.net wrote: I'm sure I'm not the first to see them but I hadn't seen a post here. The pharma image spams are back after a long break: http://pastebin.com/mb1876f6 Like the others they are fairly easily blocked but just thought

whitelist_from_rcvd and short circuit

2009-08-13 Thread Chris
It appears as though I don't understand how this is supposed to work. I have a file in /etc/mail/spamassassin called my-whitelist.cf. In it I have entries such as: whitelist_from_rcvd serv...@freenet.de freenet.de whitelist_from_rcvd harley-requ...@the-hed.net the-hed.net In my local.cf I have:

Re: giftcardsurveys.us.com

2009-08-13 Thread Brian Godette
Johnson, S wrote: I’ve done really good with blocking spam up until this one… It looks like a “legitimate” e-mailer from both the system perspective and the system perspective. When I look at my logs, the servers are reporting their domains correctly so their mailserver looks ok when

Re: whitelist_from_rcvd and short circuit

2009-08-13 Thread Matt Kettler
Chris wrote: It appears as though I don't understand how this is supposed to work. I have a file in /etc/mail/spamassassin called my-whitelist.cf. In it I have entries such as: snip whitelist_from_rcvd harley-requ...@the-hed.net the-hed.net snip however, a message from the 2nd