Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread @lbutlr
On 20 Apr 2021, at 18:29, Bob Proulx wrote: > Hmm... No. I disagree. It's not if-one-then-the-other. All that is > needed to disprove it is one example. And as it happens I can list > two immediately. Which does nothing to disprove "most mailing list require subscription" which is absolutel

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Antony Stone wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I was not aware that this mailing list requires one to be subscribed > > to post to it. Does it? It's not necessary on most technical mailing > > lists. > > I would in fact say the exact opposite: most mailing lists do > require subscription in order t

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 20:40:58 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: > On 19 Apr 2021, at 18:25, RW wrote: > I suggested exempting messages hitting ALL_TRUSTED from > KAM_DMARC_REJECT. > Matus noted correctly that doing so with external machines in > trusted_networks could result in "problems" i.e. allowing uns

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 20 April 2021 at 23:27:14, Bob Proulx wrote: > I was not aware that this mailing list requires one to be subscribed > to post to it. Does it? It's not necessary on most technical mailing > lists. I would in fact say the exact opposite: most mailing lists do require subscription in o

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Antony Stone wrote: > Incidentally, I had no idea what "a pre-mangled address for the web archive > readers" meant. You are the second person to mention this, the first in a direct message to me. Which means there will be many. Sorry. Let me explain. Due to too much caution about spammers har

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread Bob Proulx
RW wrote: > I think the question was getting no mail without unsubscribing and > losing the ability to post. This is useful if you read a list by other > means, e.g. via NNTP. I was not aware that this mailing list requires one to be subscribed to post to it. Does it? It's not necessary on most

Re: Spamassassin goes to folder spam

2021-04-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 01:12:18 +0200 mau...@gmx.ch wrote: > Hello > > Asking for litle help.. Doevecot and sieve are running fine.. One > thing now, if receiving mail from Users-spamassassin > > This mail will by forwarding from sieve to folder spam. I didn't see > why this will transfer there. Y

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 20 April 2021 at 22:54:29, RW wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:21:57 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > > Don Saklad wrote: > > > How do you set nomail for the List? > > > > To unsubscribe send an email message to this address. Followed by a > > pre-mangled address for the web archive readers t

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:21:57 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > Don Saklad wrote: > > How do you set nomail for the List? > > To unsubscribe send an email message to this address. Followed by a > pre-mangled address for the web archive readers that hide email > addresses. > > users-unsubscr...@sp

Re: How do you set nomail for the List?

2021-04-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Don Saklad wrote: > How do you set nomail for the List? To unsubscribe send an email message to this address. Followed by a pre-mangled address for the web archive readers that hide email addresses. users-unsubscr...@spamassassin.apache.org users-unsubscribe AT spamassassin DOT apache

Re: Senderscore

2021-04-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 Apr 2021, at 7:27, Simon Wilson wrote: > ...is the correct way to disable it: > > local.cf: score RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL 0 Yes. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 Apr 2021, at 7:48, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 19 Apr 2021, at 21:28, John Hardin wrote: ...so: header ALL_INTERNAL X-Spam-Relays-External =~ /^$/ ? On 19.04.21 22:15, Bill Cole wrote: Actually, what I committed earlier today in my sandbox and will move to the main rules tree

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Simon Wilson
header DMARC_FAIL_REJECT Authentication-Results =~ /mail\.simonandkate\.net; dmarc=fail \(p=reject/ describe DMARC_FAIL_REJECT DMARC check failed (p=reject) score DMARC_FAIL_REJECT 6.0 That works fine, this rule is DMARC testing in OUTbound mail, dont do this :) ***No it is not DMARC testing

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-20 14:48, Simon Wilson wrote: score__KAM_DMARC_POLICY_REJECT 0 score__KAM_DMARC_POLICY_QUAR 0 score__KAM_DMARC_POLICY_NONE 0 score__KAM_DMARC_POLICY_DKIM_STRICT0 ... as then the metas will never pass. any solutions creates another pro

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-20 14:35, Henrik K wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:05:21PM +1000, Simon Wilson wrote: rather than change the channel distributed KAM.cf, what needs to go in local.cf to tell that not to run? *CAN* it be disabled from local.cf, or can it only be done by commenting out the entry i

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Simon Wilson
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:05:21PM +1000, Simon Wilson wrote: rather than change the channel distributed KAM.cf, what needs to go in local.cf to tell that not to run? *CAN* it be disabled from local.cf, or can it only be done by commenting out the entry in KAM.cf? It would not make any sense

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-20 14:21, Simon Wilson wrote: header DMARC_FAIL_REJECT Authentication-Results =~ /mail\.simonandkate\.net; dmarc=fail \(p=reject/ describe DMARC_FAIL_REJECT DMARC check failed (p=reject) score DMARC_FAIL_REJECT 6.0 That works fine, this rule is DMARC testing in OUTbound mail, do

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Henrik K
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:05:21PM +1000, Simon Wilson wrote: > > rather than change the channel distributed KAM.cf, what needs to go in > local.cf to tell that not to run? *CAN* it be disabled from local.cf, or can > it only be done by commenting out the entry in KAM.cf? It would not make any

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-20 13:48, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 19 Apr 2021, at 21:28, John Hardin wrote: ...so: header ALL_INTERNAL X-Spam-Relays-External =~ /^$/ ? On 19.04.21 22:15, Bill Cole wrote: Actually, what I committed earlier today in my sandbox and will move to the main rules tree if i

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Simon Wilson
They do yes. However I use fetchmail to retrieve emails from some services; fetchmail presents into the inbound stack as being from 127.0.0.1 - so I do not use the milters' "whitelists" to decide whether or not to run on inbound email, I use directed flow through postfix and amavisd to decide whet

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 19 Apr 2021, at 21:28, John Hardin wrote: ...so: header ALL_INTERNAL X-Spam-Relays-External =~ /^$/ ? On 19.04.21 22:15, Bill Cole wrote: Actually, what I committed earlier today in my sandbox and will move to the main rules tree if it doesn't do anything crazy in masschecks: describ

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 19 Apr 2021, at 11:30, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I understand this as: if mail was received by internal relay unauthenticated, it's external, On 19.04.21 12:49, Bill Cole wrote: I cannot make SA behave that way. On 19 Apr 2021, at 13:03, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: why not? On

Re: Senderscore

2021-04-20 Thread Simon Wilson
And btw, usually on the DNS infos of Senderscores, you can see about 3 days of lag compared to their online interface, dunno if expected on their side, or they're facing perf issues, but that service is not a top priority at all at least On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 7:29 PM Simon Bressier wrote: Hi

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
>On 19 Apr 2021, at 11:30, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> I understand this as: >> >> if mail was received by internal relay unauthenticated, it's >> external, On 19.04.21 12:49, Bill Cole wrote: >I cannot make SA behave that way. On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:03:55 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wro

Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails

2021-04-20 Thread Simon Wilson
- Message from Henrik K - Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 17:11:41 +0300 From: Henrik K Reply-To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: KAM_DMARC_REJECT on internal emails To: users@spamassassin.apache.org On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:05:21PM +1000, Simon Wilson wrote: