Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-08 Thread Alex
Hi, > Independent testing like the VB tests tell me much more. > > http://www.virusbtn.com/virusbulletin/archive/2010/03/vb201003-vbspam-comparative > > And yes that more or less the commercial products, but it shows also how > lits like SURBL perform. But also ratings of the large vendors. And th

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-08 Thread J.D. Falk
On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:15 AM, Justin Mason wrote: > he doesn't take FPs into account. this is a very serious problem with > the methodology. +1 -- J.D. Falk Return Path Inc

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Marc Perkel
On 4/7/2010 7:41 AM, corpus.defero wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 15:14 +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: Hi! http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html It seems barracuda is still leading, but is that also everyone's experience? Can anyone provide details on how Jeff

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Alex wrote on Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:41:18 -0400: > > http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html This list is not useable for choosing your preferred RBL. It doesn't take false positives into account. apews.org for instance is not usable at all and sorbs is only usable when you exclude their spamtraps

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread corpus.defero
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 15:14 +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > Hi! > > >>> http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html > > >> It seems barracuda is still leading, but is that also everyone's > >> experience? Can anyone provide details on how Jeff computed this > >> information and is it as cut-and-dr

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Setup a blacklist blocking ANY ip and you are ranked #1 in this test. Its of no use at all IMHO. Yes, certainly, and I guess it was a loaded question of me to ask, because it was almost too obvious that I thought I was missing something. I don't think it's _completely_ useless though, bec

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Alex
Hi, http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html [...] > Setup a blacklist blocking ANY ip and you are ranked #1 in this test. > Its of no use at all IMHO. Yes, certainly, and I guess it was a loaded question of me to ask, because it was almost too obvious that I thought I was missing something.

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html It seems barracuda is still leading, but is that also everyone's experience? Can anyone provide details on how Jeff computed this information and is it as cut-and-dried as this makes it seem? IOW, barracuda, the free service, is "better" than all th

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Wednesday, 7 of April 2010, Marc Perkel wrote: > Here's another good list that rates quality. > > http://www.intra2net.com/en/support/antispam/index.php The methodology behind this rating is kinda peculiar. What good is counting messages hit by lists? If I make a DNSBL which just marks gmail

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ned Slider : > Last year when the barracuda config was first posted to this list, I > implemented it on my personal mail server with a very high score so > as to trigger automatic quarantines for all mail hitting the list, > and have since checked all hits by hand. I currently use zen.spamhaus >

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Mike Cardwell
On 07/04/2010 12:01, corpus.defero wrote: During the last year I don't think I've seen a single FP hit against barracuda :surprised: That said, I still haven't found the confidence to implement it at the smtp stage for outright rejection but the numbers I'm seeing do tend towards telling me the

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread corpus.defero
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 11:38 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: > Alex wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Last October Marc posted the following URL that compared the various RBLs: > > > >> http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html > > > > It seems barracuda is still leading, but is that also everyone's > > experience?

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Ned Slider
Alex wrote: Hi, Last October Marc posted the following URL that compared the various RBLs: http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html It seems barracuda is still leading, but is that also everyone's experience? Can anyone provide details on how Jeff computed this information and is it as cut-an

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-07 Thread Justin Mason
he doesn't take FPs into account. this is a very serious problem with the methodology. --j. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 03:41, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > Last October Marc posted the following URL that compared the various RBLs: > >> http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html > > It seems barracuda is still

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-06 Thread Marc Perkel
Here's another good list that rates quality. http://www.intra2net.com/en/support/antispam/index.php On 4/6/2010 7:41 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, Last October Marc posted the following URL that compared the various RBLs: http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html It seems barracuda is still l

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-06 Thread Marc Perkel
On 4/6/2010 7:41 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, Last October Marc posted the following URL that compared the various RBLs: http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html It seems barracuda is still leading, but is that also everyone's experience? Can anyone provide details on how Jeff computed this

Re: Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2010-04-06 Thread Alex
Hi, Last October Marc posted the following URL that compared the various RBLs: > http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html It seems barracuda is still leading, but is that also everyone's experience? Can anyone provide details on how Jeff computed this information and is it as cut-and-dried as thi

Blacklists Compared 17 October 2009

2009-10-23 Thread Marc Perkel
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html The races! Big upset for Baracudda as Spamhaus takes back the #1 position and Spam Eating Monkey comes in second. (I don't count apews) Hostkarma pulls ahead of Uceprotect who have been running neck and neck for 5th and 6th place.