On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:12 AM, Dan Schaefer wrote:
>>
>> I'll have to repeat, for the original poster this isn't a technology
>> vs technology argument. If it was, his coworkers would be listing
>> specific things Exchange does that FreeBSD/SA does not do.
>
> (Standing ovation on both emails)
Quanah Gibson-Mount a écrit :
> --On Monday, October 05, 2009 11:50 PM +0200 mouss
> wrote:
>
>> Thomas Mullins a écrit :
>>> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
>>> coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
>>> enough that my boss is goi
Hi,
> It's a shame that, living in Denver, I will be *just* out of range of
> hearing the screams as the mailspools fill with viruses, malware, and
> massive payloads of Spanish Prinsoner spams.
Awe, c'mon now. Yes, I agree SA is a better solution, but Microsoft
didn't get to be a multi-billion-d
> (Standing ovation on both emails)
>
> --
> Dan Schaefer
> Web Developer/Systems Analyst
> Performance Administration Corp.
I feel beat down now :(
j/k
> I have no explanation,
>
> Their supposed complaint is, they don't know *nix. But my
> coworker and I manage those boxes, so even if one of us left,
> there would be at least one person to run those boxes.
>
> SA/ClamAV has been working great. Our BSD box sits in front
> of the Exchan
- "Quanah Gibson-Mount" wrote:
| --On Monday, October 05, 2009 11:50 PM +0200 mouss
|
| wrote:
|
| > Thomas Mullins a écrit :
| >> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But,
| my
| >> coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
| >> enough tha
On 5-Oct-2009, at 16:58, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
It's just like the people who believe in Apple. They will go spend
$1K on an iMac and accessories and get -exactly- the same thing that
I can build with FreeBSD and a whitebox clone for a quarter of the
cost - but will never believe that they ove
On 5-Oct-2009, at 14:49, Thomas Mullins wrote:
I will pull out our BSD box, and I will let them connect the
Exchange box straight to the Net.
It's a shame that, living in Denver, I will be *just* out of range of
hearing the screams as the mailspools fill with viruses, malware, and
massive
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Gary Smith wrote:
Let them have as much Windows stuff as they want. Just plead the
case to supplement.
I'll have to repeat, for the original poster this isn't a technology
vs technology argument. If it was, his coworkers would be listing
specific things Exchange do
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 15:05 -0700, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
> --On Monday, October 05, 2009 11:50 PM +0200 mouss
> wrote:
>
> > Thomas Mullins a écrit :
> >> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
> >> coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally comp
On tir 06 okt 2009 00:05:52 CEST, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote
And once exchange falls over, show them Zimbra. ;) Which uses
postfix/SA/amavis, etc, and looks a lot like exchange... only
better. ;)
if zimbra was good i would not have choiced horde
--
xpoint
Gary Smith wrote:
Let them have as much Windows stuff as they want. Just plead the case to supplement.
I'll have to repeat, for the original poster this isn't a technology
vs technology argument. If it was, his coworkers would be listing
specific things Exchange does that FreeBSD/SA does no
> and the problem is?
>
> if they want exchange, give them exchange. don't fight (directly),
> watch
> instead. take pleasure of the situation, get fun as you can. I
> personally took fun all day long in windows-only (and believe it or
> not,
> in linux-only) environments.
>
>
> that said, you c
Hi,
On Mon, 05.10.2009 at 14:11:46 -0700, John Hardin wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Thomas Mullins wrote:
>> I will pull out our BSD box, and I will let them connect the Exchange
>> box straight to the Net.
> Second bet: how long it takes after doing that before the box is 0wned.
I wouldn't ho
--On Monday, October 05, 2009 11:50 PM +0200 mouss
wrote:
Thomas Mullins a écrit :
We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable
FreeBSD/Spamassassin
Thomas Mullins a écrit :
> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
> coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
> enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable
> FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes. They are planning on purchasing something
> tha
Shane (Or Thomas)
This isn't a debate about Open Source vs commercial software as
much as you would like to think that it is. This is a debate
about something that your familiar with (FreeBSD/Spamassassin)
and that none of your coworkers are familiar with, vs something
that your coworkers are
Not my box,
I am on the network side of things
Shane
From: John Hardin [mailto:jhar...@impsec.org]
Sent: Mon 10/5/2009 5:11 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Cc: Toni Mueller
Subject: RE: OT bad news
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Thomas Mullins wrote:
>
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:49 -0400, Thomas Mullins wrote:
> Their supposed complaint is, they don't know *nix.
>
Poor babies. Why doesn't your boss give 'em each a copy of 'Linux in a
Nutshell' (or the BSD equivalent) and a week to read it? If they're
competent that should be enough for them to get
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:49 -0400, Thomas Mullins wrote:
> I have no explanation,
> I will pull out our BSD box, and I will let them connect the Exchange
> box straight to the Net.
They probably just want to connect their iPhones to the exchange server
with Active-Sync, and couldn't be bothered
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Thomas Mullins wrote:
I will pull out our BSD box, and I will let them connect the Exchange
box straight to the Net.
Second bet: how long it takes after doing that before the box is 0wned.
Of course, if you admin that box too, that bet might be shooting yourself
in the fo
assas...@oeko.net]
Sent: Mon 10/5/2009 4:13 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: OT bad news
Hi,
On Mon, 05.10.2009 at 15:42:04 -0400, Thomas Mullins
wrote:
> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
> coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they h
k12 is kindergarten through 12th grade in US schools...
- Message from guent...@rudersport.de -
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:33:26 +0200
From: Karsten Bräckelmann
Subject: Re: OT bad news
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 13:13 -0700, Jeffer
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 13:23 -0700, John Hardin wrote:
> I guess the comfort of the illusion of having somebody to sue is a strong
> attraction.
Now there's one argument to start smoking...
(SCNR, and it's probably the cold speaking anyway. ;)
--
char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 22:33 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> Since we're off-topic anyway -- I take this response, and the mention of
> "school district" earlier in this thread, that this indeed is just a
> strange coincidence and infrastructural independent states.
>
> Now, if someone could br
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 13:13 -0700, Jefferson Davis wrote:
> There are some that still don't get the value of opensource... Go
> figure.
[...]
> We just don't experience the pain that some of my exchange-using
> collegues do...
Since we're off-topic anyway -- I take this response, and the mention
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 22:00 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 15:42 -0400, Thomas Mullins wrote:
> > We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
> > coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
> > enough that my boss is going
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Jefferson Davis wrote:
There are some that still don't get the value of opensource... Go figure.
My employer has contracts that specify "no open source".
I guess the comfort of the illusion of having somebody to sue is a strong
attraction.
--
John Hardin KA7OHZ
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Thomas Mullins wrote:
We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable
FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes. They are planning on purchasing s
Hi,
On Mon, 05.10.2009 at 15:42:04 -0400, Thomas Mullins
wrote:
> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
> coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
> enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable
> FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes.
more
On 10/5/2009 9:42 PM, Thomas Mullins wrote:
We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable
FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes. They are planning on purchasing so
on, 05 Oct 2009 22:00:08 +0200
From: Karsten Bräckelmann
Subject: Re: OT bad news
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 15:42 -0400, Thomas Mullins wrote:
>> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
>> coworkers do not
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 15:42 -0400, Thomas Mullins wrote:
> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
> coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
> enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable
> FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes. They are planni
Heh.
If you want, try to convince them to use ASSP:
http://assp.sourceforge.net/
It's open source too, but it does run on an Exchange box, from what
I've heard, and I've only ever heard good things about it.
I must say, I'm surprised, given the state of the economy, that
they've made this decis
> We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years
> now. But, my coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they
> have finally complained enough that my boss is going to
> replace our reliable FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes. They
> are planning on purchasing something that runs ON
> Exchange. Wh
Glad I don't live in Virginia!! I hate to see my tax dollars wasted
because people don't understand OpenSource.. Especially in these troubled
times.
From: Thomas Mullins [mailto:tsmull...@wise.k12.va.us]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 15:42
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: OT bad ne
Thomas Mullins wrote:
We have been running Spamassassin for maybe eight years now. But, my
coworkers do not like OpenSource. So they have finally complained
enough that my boss is going to replace our reliable
FreeBSD/Spamassassin boxes. They are planning on purchasing something
that runs
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