Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)

2006-05-15 Thread Aleksej
Nick Faiz wrote: The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon to the same effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic tapestries; eithe

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)

2006-05-15 Thread Nick Westgate
BTW, I found the source of the unicorn in the new logo. It's from a 500-year-old tapestry in a French museum. http://www.musee-moyenage.fr/ang/pages/page_id18373_u1l2.htm (Navigate 'up' and to the first panel to get more info.) Here's an idea: |T|apestry, where |T| would be a "decorated" charact

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)

2006-05-15 Thread Nick Faiz
Well, I think it's probably a little esoteric. :) Maybe it isn't a good logo if you don't know the stories about the fantastic memories elephants are supposed to have. For the record, that is what I have always guessed the Postgres logo to symbolize. Perhaps there's another story to it. Nick

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)

2006-05-15 Thread Martin
Perhaps the logo should be related to how Tapestry apps are built by putting components together, something like the building blocks seen for wxwidgets or code::blocks: http://www.wxwidgets.org/images/logo9.gif http://www.codeblocks.org/img/splash.jpg But blocks are cliche, boring and corporate.

Re[2]: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)

2006-05-15 Thread Kevin Menard
Hello Nick, Monday, May 15, 2006, 9:13:13 PM, you wrote: > The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests > elephantine memory. Well, now I know what the significance of the elephant is. Maybe I'm just dense, but for years I've never really got it and never really bothered to l

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo (constructive criticism)

2006-05-15 Thread Nick Faiz
The Postgresql elephant is a terrific logo because it suggests elephantine memory. Just seeing a unicorn by itself doesnt really tie itself to the project. You could depict a knight or a dragon to the same effect - it might be something appearing on heraldic tapestries; either way the tapestry

Re: Sort Order

2006-05-15 Thread spamsucks
Stitches has exactly that component. It's a modified palette that just does the ordering. I am using it without problem in production. http://stitches.authsum.org Stanczak Group wrote: Is there a component to allow sorting of items. Like what Palette can do, but I just want to have a list

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Todd Orr
"Bred for their skills & magic..." LOL On 5/15/06, Ashton Hepburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In keeping with an animal theme - How about a Liger? http://www.liloia.com/images/liger.jpg Bred for their skills & magic... Tapestry/Hivemind : Lion/Tiger All the enhancement is also somewhat 'magi

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Ashton Hepburn
In keeping with an animal theme - How about a Liger? http://www.liloia.com/images/liger.jpg Bred for their skills & magic... Tapestry/Hivemind : Lion/Tiger All the enhancement is also somewhat 'magical'...

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Pedro Viegas
The logo contest is not a bad ideia, after setting the guidelines of what it should convey. The old tap logo is really in need of it's due rest. The new, well I wasn't quick to get to what it meant. Although that's not that uncomom. A few examples we all know: - mySQL (someone has allready mention

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Stephane Decleire
Why not start with the beginning and list all the ideas the new logo should convey Paul Russell wrote: On 15 May 2006, at 20:37, Wayland Chan wrote: "Constructive criticism" Simply saying you don't like it without providing a better alternative iswell no need for me to finish that s

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Konstantin Ignatyev
Very good response Paul! Negative reaction is very important to look at when people are genuinely seeking for input rather than for corroboration. IMO logo should be either completely neutral like some geometrical shape or

Re: Setting system configuration for components

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Cantrell
If a value is only used by one component, put the default in the component spec. If a value is shared across components, you could create an ASO with global scope and inject it into your components -- or you could go old-school, and just create a MyComponentSettings singleton and use it.

Re: listeners in component

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Cantrell
Make your component accept the listener as a parameter. Listeners can be passed just like any other component parameter. P On May 15, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Carl Pelletier wrote: Hi, How can I call the listener of a button in a form when I am in the listener of my component ? Thanks ! ---

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Russell
On 15 May 2006, at 20:37, Wayland Chan wrote: "Constructive criticism" Simply saying you don't like it without providing a better alternative iswell no need for me to finish that sentence. Well, ish. The issue with Logo's is that they're the first thing people use to judge your project. I

listeners in component

2006-05-15 Thread Carl Pelletier
Hi, How can I call the listener of a button in a form when I am in the listener of my component ? Thanks ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Dan Adams
haha. hey, why not use a blue dolphin instead? oh, wait... http://www.mysql.com/ :) On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 12:27 -0700, Todd Orr wrote: > I hate to say it, but unicorns have a wimpy connotation. It conjures > up images of 5 year olds' rooms with posters of rainbows and mythical > creatures adorning

Setting system configuration for components

2006-05-15 Thread Dan Adams
I have a library of components that are used by a couple different projects. One of the things I would like to do is to set system-wide defaults for each project that would be used by the components so they didn't have to be specified each time the component was used. I could also create a wrapper

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/tapestry/tapestry-logo/web/ On 5/15/06, Paul Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like the concept, but feel it needs adjustment. Is the original vector art available? P On May 15, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: > I like it, but I may be a minority

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Todd Orr
"Simply saying you don't like it without providing a better alternative iswell no need for me to finish that sentence." Not everybody is an artist, but everybody knows what they don't like. On 5/15/06, Wayland Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Constructive criticism" Simply saying you don't

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Cantrell
I like the concept, but feel it needs adjustment. Is the original vector art available? P On May 15, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: I like it, but I may be a minority. The only thing I can say is that the old tapestry logo is most definitely being killed off. So, if someone has a

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Wayland Chan
"Constructive criticism" Simply saying you don't like it without providing a better alternative iswell no need for me to finish that sentence.

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
I like it, but I may be a minority. The only thing I can say is that the old tapestry logo is most definitely being killed off. So, if someone has a better logo that everyone likes they should make it known :) On 5/15/06, Todd Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hate to say it, but unicorns have

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Todd Orr
I hate to say it, but unicorns have a wimpy connotation. It conjures up images of 5 year olds' rooms with posters of rainbows and mythical creatures adorning the walls. I don't mean to offend those of you that had those on your walls growing up. If you still have them on your walls, perhaps some o

Re: component that will get localized resources from database?

2006-05-15 Thread Lutz Hühnken
No, but it is implemented in AbstractComponent: public Messages getMessages() { throw new IllegalStateException(TapestryMessages.providedByEnhancement("getMessages")); } and it is clearly created by the enhancement worker nevertheless, otherwise we'd be getting quite some exceptions.

Re: Submit button action listener not being called?

2006-05-15 Thread Andreas Andreou
Just tried this and it worked... Dan Adams wrote: No, I tried that. It doesn't seem to have any effect. On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 19:37 +0300, Andreas Andreou wrote: Would setting value=" " for the first and value=" " for the second work ? Dan Adams wrote: More specifically, the pro

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Henri Dupre
I do actually like the new logo... I find it slick and it is nice to have more than just a logo to identify the project.If the unicorn is picked then there should be a little note somewhere in the project pages... On 5/15/06, liigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sorry if I hurt someone. but i

Re: Report in Tapestry using Jasperreport

2006-05-15 Thread Henri Dupre
This is really nice! Could you put it in the tapestry wiki? I'm sure it will help many people! Henri. On 5/15/06, Lothar Reisinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I implemented that as a service in Tapestry 4. You may have a look to the source code at http://www.lrtb.de/tapestry/JasperPdfDown

Export to Excel

2006-05-15 Thread yesidredondo
Hi all, i've an application that have a report that must be oppened with excel, what i've done is that i have a tapestry page as usual (with the .page and the BasePage) and in the PageBeginReder method i put this lines: HttpServletResponse responses = this.getPage().getRequestCycle().getRequestCon

Re: component that will get localized resources from database?

2006-05-15 Thread Lutz Hühnken
Hi, actually no, I haven't even tried it, but it *must* collide with the enhancement stuff... However, I came across the page "http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/UsingCustomResourceSource";, which provides quite a good solution. It "overrides" a default service implementation with a specific one i

Re: Submit button action listener not being called?

2006-05-15 Thread Dan Adams
No, I tried that. It doesn't seem to have any effect. On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 19:37 +0300, Andreas Andreou wrote: > Would setting > value=" " for the first > and value=" " for the second > work ? > > Dan Adams wrote: > > More specifically, the problem is that I have a submit button that is > > sty

RE: component that will get localized resources from database?

2006-05-15 Thread James Carman
If getMessages() is already implemented, the enhancement worker shouldn't try to create the method. Have you tried just overriding getMessages()? -Original Message- From: Paul Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:36 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: compone

Re: component that will get localized resources from database?

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Cantrell
There is no obligation to use Hivemind if it is not appropriate to your problem. Hivemind is useful for decoupling parts of the system, and for making "aspecty" customization that cut across the framework. If you don't need decoupling, and don't need to customize across the whole framework,

Re: Submit button action listener not being called?

2006-05-15 Thread Andreas Andreou
Would setting value=" " for the first and value=" " for the second work ? Dan Adams wrote: More specifically, the problem is that I have a submit button that is styled with css and I don't want a label on it. If I don't specify a label it defaults to "Submit Query" but if I specify value="" the

Re: Submit button action listener not being called?

2006-05-15 Thread Dan Adams
More specifically, the problem is that I have a submit button that is styled with css and I don't want a label on it. If I don't specify a label it defaults to "Submit Query" but if I specify value="" then it uses that to distinguish the submit button and doesn't call the handler. Any suggestions w

Submit button action listener not being called?

2006-05-15 Thread Dan Adams
I have a few submit buttons that have stopped working (I think this *may* have been caused by moving from 4.0 to 4.0.1). Two of the submit buttons have value="" and the third has value=" test val". All three submits have an action set but only the action handler for the third button will be called.

Re: Integration With EJB3

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Cantrell
This project of mine (in early development) uses EJB3 annotations (though it uses Hibernate APIs, *not* EJB3's entity manager): http://sourceforge.net/projects/imre View source here: http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/imre/trunk/imre/ http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/inni

Re: Validation BEFORE submit

2006-05-15 Thread Dan Adams
We did something similar by wrapping @Form with a component that can provided multiple levels of validation. For instance, the page can easily provide it's own validation that is not easily doable with normal validators (eg making sure 2 password fields are equal). This has worked well for us as a

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Paul Cantrell
Actually, Medieval tapestry was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the new logo. I do agree, however, that it's a little odd -- something about the proportioning, the position of the horn, or the pose of the unicorn...? It almost seems to be tipping backwards, out of balance or be

component that will get localized resources from database?

2006-05-15 Thread Lutz Hühnken
Hi there, assume you want to create a localized tapestry application, but there are localized messages that you don't want to store in a properties file / text file. In a plain Java application, you could just write your own implementation of ResourceBundle, that could take the messages from any

JavaOne and Tapestry Marketing

2006-05-15 Thread Steve Motola
Leaving for San Fran in a couple hours. Looking forward to meeting Tapestry folk that will be there, I assume we'll crowd around at the Tapestry and Trails BOFs. The Tipping Point In regard to Tapestry, I've been doing a lot of networking lately and folk just do not know about it, or have heard

JavaOne and Tapestry Marketing

2006-05-15 Thread Steve Motola
Leaving for San Fran in a couple hours. Looking forward to meeting Tapestry folk that will be there, I assume we'll crowd around at the Tapestry and Trails BOFs. The Tipping Point In regard to Tapestry, I've been doing a lot of networking lately and folk just do not know about it, or have heard

RE: Default Selection of PropertySelectionModel

2006-05-15 Thread Ben Wong
Hi, If I understand you question correctly, all you need to do is define the value of the PropertySelection component to your Class's teacher's property. Since you didn't show any code, here is an example I made up: That's all you really have to do. Hope this will help,

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
You should be careful, unicorns have special powers: http://70.86.201.113/imageserv2/temporary/PBF024ADUnicorn.jpg On 5/15/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: LOL -Original Message- From: Todd Orr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:40 AM To: Tapestry users

RE: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread James Carman
LOL -Original Message- From: Todd Orr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:40 AM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo I hope this wasn't really chosen just so Tapestry can have a unicorn on its O'Reilly book. On 5/15/06, Gentry, Michael (

Sort Order

2006-05-15 Thread Stanczak Group
Is there a component to allow sorting of items. Like what Palette can do, but I just want to have a list that can be sorted and the order will be saved to the object in the database. So far all I've been doing is allowing the user to set an integer that orders them ascending. -- Justin Stancza

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Todd Orr
I hope this wasn't really chosen just so Tapestry can have a unicorn on its O'Reilly book. On 5/15/06, Gentry, Michael (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.objectstyle.org/cayenne/images/cayenne_logo.gif OK, so it doesn't have a bowl and it is a different type of pepper, but we we

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Martin Strand
Hey, the horse worked great for cars: http://www.techimo.com/photo/data/505/medium/64Ferrari.pngn ;) On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:53:21 +0300, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really don't like to criticize people for their creative work, but I'm going to have to agree with folks on this

RE: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Gentry, Michael \(Contractor\)
http://www.objectstyle.org/cayenne/images/cayenne_logo.gif OK, so it doesn't have a bowl and it is a different type of pepper, but we were digressing anyway. :-) /dev/mrg -Original Message- From: Francis Amanfo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:03 AM To: Tapestry

RE: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread James Carman
Well, it wasn't obvious to me. Then again, is that why Tapestry is named Tapestry? I've never heard the etymology of the name. If that's why it's named Tapestry, then the logo is cool with me. But, I would recommend having some documentation on the site about its name, maybe. -Original Me

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Nick Faiz
For the record, it's a really nice unicorn. :) I was just being honest about not seeing the conceptual connection between the logo and project. Nick James Carman wrote: I really don't like to criticize people for their creative work, but I'm going to have to agree with folks on this one. When

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Nick Westgate
James Carman wrote: > I didn't understand what connection there was with unicorns either. Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ancient+tapestry+unicorn&btnG=Google+Search I suppose it's meant to invoke heraldic imagery, but people probably aren't exposed to many such image

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Francis Amanfo
Maybe we should have a bowl filled with red hot chilli pepers as the logo. You might ask what the connection is here. Because Tapestry is so hot! ;-) F On 5/15/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really don't like to criticize people for their creative work, but I'm going to have to

RE: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread James Carman
I really don't like to criticize people for their creative work, but I'm going to have to agree with folks on this one. When I saw the new logo, I really didn't like it either. I didn't understand what connection there was with unicorns either. -Original Message- From: Nick Faiz [mailt

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Nick Faiz
Yes, a unicorn just isn't what springs to mind when you think of a tapestry. Perhaps needle and thread, perhaps a spindle, perhaps a sowing kit from ye olde times? Nick Mike Snare wrote: Agreed. Polish up the old one and leave it. A unicorn? WTF? On 5/15/06, Raffaele Cigni <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Peter Svensson
Well, a unicorn might be OK, but I think it should have more Moxie than being just a relief. How about adding a cigar and a single-malt? And a grin? :) Cheers, PS On 5/15/06, Mike Snare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Agreed. Polish up the old one and leave it. A unicorn? WTF? On 5/15/06, Raffa

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Mike Snare
Agreed. Polish up the old one and leave it. A unicorn? WTF? On 5/15/06, Raffaele Cigni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm agree, the older is better then the newer. 2006/5/15, liigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm sorry if I hurt someone. > but i really like the old tapestry logo than the new one. >

RE: Outlook conversation threading

2006-05-15 Thread Kevin Menard
Hi Robert, This is just a guess, but perhaps it's related to the change in list addresses? -- Kevin -Original Message- From: Robert Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:08 AM To: Tapestry users Subject: Outlook conversation threading I had my Outlook folder f

Is it safe to use OGNL-2.6.9 with current ( 4.0.1 ) Tapestry?

2006-05-15 Thread Aleksej
May 8 new OGNL version was released. Is it safe to use OGNL-2.6.9 with current ( 4.0.1 ) Tapestry? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some components I've been working on

2006-05-15 Thread Barry Books
SqlTableModel takes a database table and displays it. Mine takes a sql select statement including joins etc and displays the result set. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Raffaele Cigni
I'm agree, the older is better then the newer. 2006/5/15, liigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm sorry if I hurt someone. but i really like the old tapestry logo than the new one. maybe we need redesign another much better one. the new tapestry logo: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/tapestry/tapestry-log

Re: I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread Peter Svensson
Hmm. The old one wasn't too good, but the new one feels more .. feminine in a way. Also more corporate. More stylish, to be sure. I'm undecided. Cheers, PS On 5/15/06, liigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sorry if I hurt someone. but i really like the old tapestry logo than the new one. maybe

I do not like the new tapestry logo

2006-05-15 Thread liigo
I'm sorry if I hurt someone. but i really like the old tapestry logo than the new one. maybe we need redesign another much better one. the new tapestry logo: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/tapestry/tapestry-logo/tapestry_logo_200x290.png?rev=406173&view=auto the old one: http://jakarta.apache.or

Re: Report in Tapestry using Jasperreport

2006-05-15 Thread Lothar Reisinger
Hi, I implemented that as a service in Tapestry 4. You may have a look to the source code at http://www.lrtb.de/tapestry/JasperPdfDownloadService.java The service should work outside the framework it is written for. The only thing you must change is the framework specific HibernateSession in

Integration With EJB3

2006-05-15 Thread Ing . Stefano Girotti
Hi to all i'm new to the use of Tapestry, i'm looking for someone/something about Java enterprise with Tapestry & EJB3, cookbook, tutorial, examples, best practices, jsp equivalent... for example how i can include a tapestry sub page in a tapestry page like i did in a jsp with: