Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 2/23/22 05:49, John Barrow wrote: Christopher, You will just change the implementation to answer the question "have any resources been modified, but not-too-recently?" OK The check must be fast, otherwise it will hang-up other processes on the server. Don't introduce any

RE: is too quick to respond

2022-02-23 Thread John Barrow
Christopher, > You will just change the implementation to answer the question "have any resources been modified, but not-too-recently?" OK > The check must be fast, otherwise it will hang-up other processes on the server. Don't introduce any new loops or stalls. Just return true or false

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-22 Thread Christopher Schultz
e to decide not to reload "too early"? -chris From: Christopher Schultz Sent: 20 February 2022 14:22 To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: is too quick to respond John, On 2/20/22 05:50, John Barrow wrote: Neil, Thanks for your useful feedback. I am still feeling m

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-22 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 2/20/22 13:35, John Barrow wrote: That's my understanding as well, just that they have to have a defined folder structure within the zip but can unzip with any utility program. When you say "consistent content", how would you determine that without actually 'suck and see' which would

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-22 Thread Christopher Schultz
- Original Message - From: "chris" To: "users" Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:22:17 AM Subject: Re: is too quick to respond John, On 2/20/22 05:50, John Barrow wrote: Neil, Thanks for your useful feedback. I am still feeling my way as you can probably see from

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-22 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 2/19/22 05:27, John Barrow wrote: I have re-run the Tomcat tests using 4 cores (all my machine has!) and time came down to 35m 33s. Not bad. Definitely better. Ask IT for a better computer ;) I have written my own ‘grep’ to review the output directory and I think that the number of

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-21 Thread Mark Thomas
John, I'm going back a few emails in this thread but that is because things appear to be heading in the wrong direction. This is an attempt to get you back on the right track. On 18/02/2022 15:50, John Barrow wrote: I use Netbeans 12.6 (Apache loyalty!) on Windows 10 for all my Java

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread John Barrow
ied, the rest would simply be subject to the timeout for non activity having expired.John Original message From: Neil Aggarwal Date: 20/02/2022 18:29 (GMT+00:00) To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: is too quick to respond I think it's a bad idea to design a solution based on the

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread John Barrow
nsion.John Original message From: Simon Matter Date: 20/02/2022 18:15 (GMT+00:00) To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: is too quick to respond > Not sure about Tomcat, but what IBM Liberty does is:>> It "will" try to redeploy the war when it detects a file change

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread Neil Aggarwal
I think it's a bad idea to design a solution based on the file type. A webapp can contain all kinds of files. On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 12:16 PM Simon Matter wrote: > > I may be wrong but I thought .war files are zip files. Wouldn't it be > possible to just wait until the file has a consistent

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread Simon Matter
the JAVA NIO API watchevents point you in the right direction in watching > a file/folder in a loop for a "create" or "modify" or "delete" event to > occur and fire off. > >thanks, > jason > > - Original Message ----- > From: "chris

RE: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread John Barrow
, the failed tests zip is also there in case it was stripped out for anyone else that might be interested. John *From: *Christopher Schultz *Sent: *20 February 2022 14:22 *To: *users@tomcat.apache.org *Subject: *Re: is too quick to respond John, On 2/20/22 05:50, John Barrow wrote: > N

RE: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread John Barrow
he reload. It is also a read-only query and so has no side-effects as it appears that users have a need to auto-reload after refreshing a larger .war file. Thoughts? Enjoy your evening. John From: Christopher Schultz Sent: 20 February 2022 14:22 To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: is

RE: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread Neil Aggarwal
> as what was mentioned earlier, different OS(s) may handle this > differently, but the > JAVA NIO API watchevents point you in the right direction in watching a > file/folder > in a loop for a "create" or "modify" or "delete" event to occur and fire > off. That is a very good point. Using an

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread Jason Hall
- Original Message - From: "chris" To: "users" Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:22:17 AM Subject: Re: is too quick to respond John, On 2/20/22 05:50, John Barrow wrote: > Neil, > > Thanks for your useful feedback. I am still feeling my way as you can > proba

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 2/20/22 05:50, John Barrow wrote: Neil, Thanks for your useful feedback. I am still feeling my way as you can probably see from my earlier emails trying to setup a development environment. I did actually think of this but didn't put it in scope for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-20 Thread John Barrow
Neil, Thanks for your useful feedback. I am still feeling my way as you can probably see from my earlier emails trying to setup a development environment. I did actually think of this but didn't put it in scope for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the Tomcat documentation for readloadable quotes

RE: is too quick to respond

2022-02-19 Thread Neil Aggarwal
John: > If anyone has a moment, can you have a quick look and see if what I am > proposing seems acceptable. Thinking about when a large file (Such as a war file) is being uploaded to the server, we don't want Tomcat to reload it until after the file has completed upload and is fully formed.

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-19 Thread John Barrow
Hi, While we continue the investigation into why I can't get Tomcat to run within NetBeans, I thought that I would create a mockup of the functionality that I would look to implement to protect the reloading of the webapp until the files have been rebuilt. I have mimicked the expected Tomcat

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-19 Thread John Barrow
Hi, I have re-run the Tomcat tests using 4 cores (all my machine has!) and time came down to 35m 33s. Not bad. I have written my own ‘grep’ to review the output directory and I think that the number of failures has come down now using all the cores so some may have been timing issues The 5 that

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-19 Thread John Barrow
HI, As a completely 'left-field' thought and apologies if this next statement is completely naive, if I started a clean Maven project, copied across all the sources for Tomcat and then use NetBeans to add dependencies as required, could that work? I am willing to give it a try as I don't need to

RE: is too quick to respond

2022-02-18 Thread John Barrow
"reference": "JB", "name": "John Barrow", "loggedIn": "2022-02-18" } } From: Mark Thomas Sent: 18 February 2022 18:16 To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: is too quick to respond On 18/02/2022 18:01, John Barrow

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-18 Thread John Barrow
Mark,I checked the logs folder and it was empty and so I am assuming that Any is clearing it each time I build Tomcat.John Original message From: Mark Thomas Date: 18/02/2022 18:16 (GMT+00:00) To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: is too quick to respond On 18/02/2022 18

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-18 Thread Mark Thomas
On 18/02/2022 18:01, John Barrow wrote: Do you have a list of the tests which fail? Do you know how to get that list? Yes, although I am on Windows, not UNIX and so I don't have access to grep. I did a simple search within logs for 'FAILED' and it came up with about 20 or so. The list of

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-18 Thread John Barrow
Hi, > 3. Run "ant ide-netbeans" Apologies, I should have made that point clear, I have already run that otherwise Netbeans wouldn't recognise the project at all - i.e. I couldn't open it. In that respect, it was helpful, as in I could now compile and navigate the source files. > The "deploy"

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 2/18/22 10:50, John Barrow wrote: Would you be interested in looking at the existing algorithm to see if it would be updated in this way? WebappLoader.backgroundProcess() would be a good place to start. I am sort of interested in looking at this. Awesome! I have only been

RE: is too quick to respond

2022-02-18 Thread John Barrow
ing to keep shutting down Tomcat after each compile! John From: Mark Thomas Sent: 17 February 2022 21:47 To: users@tomcat.apache.org Subject: Re: is too quick to respond On 17/02/2022 19:50, Christopher Schultz wrote: > This kind of thing could happen due to a number of differen

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-17 Thread Mark Thomas
On 17/02/2022 19:50, Christopher Schultz wrote: This kind of thing could happen due to a number of different reasons, such as a slow disk or network share, etc. and ought to be protected-against. I haven't looked at the code, but I would imagine it periodically reads all relevant files

Re: is too quick to respond

2022-02-17 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 2/17/22 10:46, John Barrow wrote: Hi, I am now running Tomcat version 10.0.16 having just upgraded from 9.0.41. As a developer, I make use of the META-INF\context.xml feature to detect changes within the classes folder WEB-INF\classes by However, since moving to Tomcat 10.0.16, the