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Mladen,
On 6/17/2011 1:21 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
On 06/17/2011 12:14 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
On 6/16/2011 5:03 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
I was actually wondering about these. I think I have my answer now :/
Solutions in C or other
On 15/06/2011 21:00, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
Tomcat has many abilities to deploy applications at run time (war,
tree, context, you name it). However, when used in production, these
abilities are used cautiously, if they are used at all.
In many scenarios, Tomcat just starts, spends its life,
On 16 June 2011 11:29, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:
On 15/06/2011 21:00, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
Tomcat has many abilities to deploy applications at run time (war,
tree, context, you name it). However, when used in production, these
abilities are used cautiously, if they are used at all.
In
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:
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An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
initialising.
That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
Furthermore, if the application reports a successful start even though
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:04, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
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And it may cause problems on some OSes which don't use unix-style exit codes.
For example, OpenVMS uses the low order 3 bits of a process exit code
as a severity indicator, and odd is success, even is failure.
[IThe JVM
On 16 June 2011 12:16, Francis GALIEGUE f...@one2team.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:04, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
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And it may cause problems on some OSes which don't use unix-style exit codes.
For example, OpenVMS uses the low order 3 bits of a process exit code
as a severity
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:30, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
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It's up to main() to call System.exit(), so how is that a problem?
If the exit code is not passed to the OS, but is merely a method
return code, then of course it's not a problem.
But I understood the term exit code to mean
On 16 June 2011 12:32, Francis GALIEGUE f...@one2team.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:30, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
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It's up to main() to call System.exit(), so how is that a problem?
If the exit code is not passed to the OS, but is merely a method
return code, then of course
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 13:51, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
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The value passed to System.exit(int) is passed to the OS.
In Unix systems, 0 means success and anything else is generally not success.
OpenVMS behaves differently, as already noted.
If a process returns an error or fatal code
On 16/06/2011 12:15, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:
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An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
initialising.
That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
What is the value of
2011/6/16 Francis GALIEGUE f...@one2team.com:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:29, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:
[...]
An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
initialising.
That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
Furthermore, if the
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:36, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:
[...]
An application might report that it's started, even it hasn't finished
initialising.
That is the application's responsibility, so not the problem at hand.
What is the value of indicating success or failure, if the answer is
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:48, Konstantin Kolinko
knst.koli...@gmail.com wrote:
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Some resources are allocated only on the first access.
E.g. starting servlets, or obtaining database connections from a pool.
Unless you obtain a connection there is no knowing that the database
is
2011/6/16 Francis GALIEGUE f...@one2team.com:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:48, Konstantin Kolinko
knst.koli...@gmail.com wrote:
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Some resources are allocated only on the first access.
E.g. starting servlets, or obtaining database connections from a pool.
Unless you obtain a connection
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 15:01, Konstantin Kolinko
knst.koli...@gmail.com wrote:
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Implement what you want in a listener. Throw an Error if whatever you
want fails.
OK, but then, why isn't there such a listener as standard? I'm sure
you understand the need, and having this listener as
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Francis,
On 6/15/2011 4:00 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
Proposal: implement a command to Bootstrap which:
* does NOT return until ALL webapps configured at start time are
(attempted to be) deployed;
* exits with a positive error code
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 20:37, Christopher Schultz
ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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Francis,
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The above requirements actually might not be possible in a reasonably
simple system.
First off, the JVM provides no pure-Java way of letting
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Francis,
On 6/16/2011 5:03 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 20:37, Christopher Schultz
First off, the JVM provides no pure-Java way of letting a process go
into the background. So, there's really no opportunity to do some work
On 06/17/2011 12:14 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
On 6/16/2011 5:03 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
I was actually wondering about these. I think I have my answer now :/
Solutions in C or other languages are many to achieve that, Java has
none.
Correct: native code has to be written. tc-native
Tomcat has many abilities to deploy applications at run time (war,
tree, context, you name it). However, when used in production, these
abilities are used cautiously, if they are used at all.
In many scenarios, Tomcat just starts, spends its life, and stops,
with a defined set of webapps, and has
From: Francis GALIEGUE [mailto:f...@one2team.com]
Subject: Feature request: fullstart command
Proposal: implement a fullstart command to Bootstrap which:
* does NOT return until ALL webapps configured at start time are
(attempted to be) deployed;
* exits with a positive error code
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 22:11, Caldarale, Charles R
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:
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Check the system property org.apache.catalina.startup.EXIT_ON_INIT_FAILURE
and see if it meets your needs. (It might not be setting an exit code.)
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