On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:54:10
James R. Frysinger wrote:
>Marcus, are you a dues-paying USMA member or are you along for a free
>ride on this mail list? What actions have you taken recently (outside of
>providing us with free advice) to promote the cause of metrication in
>the US? I know that you
Excellent initiative, Adrian.
How about a strategic plan for Congress lobbying? If USMA insists it cannot do that,
none of us is certainly bound by that stupid self-imposed restriction, are we???
Evidently this would just be ONE activity of a series of ones I've shared here
sometime ago. But
I have to applaud Adrian's clear and rational expose'. Very well done, Adrian. Just
a last note of clarification, which due to the shortness of my reply to Jim may have
not been too clear.
I'm not a crusader against individual rights. Actually, I do support them and find
that they're very i
Marcus, are you a dues-paying USMA member or are you along for a free
ride on this mail list? What actions have you taken recently (outside of
providing us with free advice) to promote the cause of metrication in
the US? I know that you've written a few letters in the past, but what
about recently
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Jadic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: January 24, 2002 17:40
Subject: [USMA:17624] Thinning the list
>All I am trying to say is that *We need leadership!*
>I have no clue what is going on and most of the people on t
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:05:47
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
...
>
>Don't forget that Britain was the greatest power that the world has ever
>seen. It comes hard to realize that France was right after all.
>
First of all, I beg your pardon??? It seems to me you have forgotten your history,
Joe. I can
Hear, hear, Adrian! But... Welcome to the club, pal... :-S I've been trying to
stir things here for quite some time now without much success, so... I sort of...
gave up... It seems like either the inertia is huge, or this has just been a lip
service to metrication by nearly all. What can
Since this is not related to metric, I have addressed
only to guys in Europe and who loves Europe.
I took it from
http://forums.ft.com/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=646099322&f=831094803&m=5443084973&r=5443084973#5443084973
Are the Euro coins better
designed than the Dollar coins?
And so we were the greatest power the world had ever seen!!
The thing is, too many of us are forgetting that this is past tense!!
The trouble is, all too many are still clinging on to the glory days, seemingly
believing that if we rescind our membership of Europe, those glory days will retu
At 01:46 PM 1/24/2002 -0800, M R wrote:
>But common market could not be utilised fully without
>single currency and thus came the EURO.
Obviously my first email on this topic was not clear. I do NOT have a
problem with the Euro per se. However, I do not think the method by which
it was imposed
All I am trying to say is that *We need leadership!*
I have no clue what is going on and most of the people on the list dont have either.
Therefore, how can we be constructive?
I am sure that all of us are doing this out of passion and everyones wife must be
saying the same thing.
However, in
Jim: (I have also read the MA BE's posting "individual freedom")
I am glad that you bring this up and as Marcus says "we kind-of guessed your position".
I have to say that I understand and somewhat agree with your views.
However, and dont get me wrong here, you have a very "Americanized" opini
Necessity is the mother of all inventions and this
applies to Euro.
In 1980's, American & Japanese companies competed
aggressively and the European companies cannot cope up
with that, since they had very small markets.
In order to compete, they needed a common market.
But common market could not
On 23 Jan 2002, at 21:35, Gene Mechtly wrote:
> I strongly support your advocacy of m/s for speed, but for all speeds,
> not just for wind, aircraft, and for ships at sea.
> My extraction of some of your words more exclusively favors m/s only.
> > ... It is one of the key areas of metrication for
I have been invited back to the Language Fair at the College of Charleston in
order to provide a table (a larger one this time!) promoting the SI. This
fair is aimed at promoting studies of foreign languages, cultural awareness,
and foreign travel (especially for studies). The date of the fair
Adrian and others:
I don't plan a lengthy response for one of the reasons I note below:
I've tried repeatedly to stop list messages from going too far off
topic, ranging from broadcasting general suggestions about staying on
track, to e-mailing some of the active members asking them to stop
part
(sorry for the earlier accidental repost of Marcus' post)
Like Marcus, I don't want to start major postings on liberty vs.
metrication, so here is my brief response to his brief post.
>However, I also believe that *collective* rights at times could and should
>"supersede" at sorts the *individ
At 11:03 AM 1/24/2002 -0800, Ma Be wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:19:04
> Jim Elwell wrote:
> >At 11:38 PM 1/23/2002 -0500, kilopascal wrote:
> >>The Euro is a perfect example of how to convert something. That is why it
> >>is important to our cause.
> >
> >This is a matter of opinion. My opinio
Duncan Bath wrote in USMA 17608:
>If we want to delay [indefinitely?] the acceptance of SI by the public, we
>could do little better than emphasize the scientific/engineering viewpoint.
>*People* want to schedule thier driving by knowing how far they can go in
>an hour or a day not a second. T
Marcus Ma Be wrote in USMA 17610:
>I must concur with the last paragraph below. Till when will Great Britain
>continue to faulter on this issue? Why can't they come to their senses
>and do the only sensible thing to do (espoused below)??? Compromises do
>NOT work, P-E-R-I-O-D!
>
>Marcus
Don'
What you are telling us is regrettable and I think it is high time that we revise our
attitude towards our postings on the list. I have to confess that I also hate it when
people go WAY off track, or when I receive tenths of messages containing just a short
dialog. I think that a posting should
Duncan,
I couldn't agree more. In aviation if we were to go to the m/s concept then
our airspeed indicators would also have to change to m/s and our
aeronautical charts would have to change to meters. Our fuel consumption
rates would have to be in L/s, or kg/s or even more ridiculous g/s.
I jus
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:19:04
Jim Elwell wrote:
>At 11:38 PM 1/23/2002 -0500, kilopascal wrote:
>>The Euro is a perfect example of how to convert something. That is why it
>>is important to our cause.
>
>This is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that this is a perfect example
>of the dictator
At 01:00 PM 1/24/2002 -0500, Duncan Bath wrote:
>If we want to delay [indefinitely?] the acceptance of SI by the public, we
>could do little better than emphasize the scientific/engineering viewpoint.
>*People* want to schedule thier driving by knowing how far they can go in
>an hour or a day no
I must concur with the last paragraph below. Till when will Great Britain continue to
faulter on this issue? Why can't they come to their senses and do the only sensible
thing to do (espoused below)??? Compromises do NOT work, P-E-R-I-O-D!
Marcus
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:45:25
Stephen Davi
This is good advice. Actually I do avoid using only numbers when I state dates in
North America. While I'd favor the dd/mm/ for the reasons I already stated
repeatedly here I would not jeopardize its understanding by people by using numbers
only. Example, I'd write 24 Jan 2002, instead o
If we want to delay [indefinitely?] the acceptance of SI by the public, we
could do little better than emphasize the scientific/engineering viewpoint.
*People* want to schedule thier driving by knowing how far they can go in
an hour or a day not a second. They insist on an a land-area measure
c
At 11:38 PM 1/23/2002 -0500, kilopascal wrote:
>The Euro is a perfect example of how to convert something. That is why it
>is important to our cause.
This is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that this is a perfect example
of the dictatorial approach of socialist politicians, and is the *WORST
i agree, there are bigger fish to fry. The non use of A3 paper for Metric Today
certialy does not distract from the important mission of USMA.
Howard Ressel
Metric Conversion Manager, NYSDOT Region 4
Howard Ressel
Project Design Engineer, Region 4
(585) 272-3372
>>> "James R. Frysinger" <[EM
The -mm-dd concept started primarily from computer
where the files/directories were created with dates in
this format, so that it will be in chronological
order when listed.
You can see lot of internet websites using this format
including the url's.
All numbers like telephone, zipcode, etc
Jim and all,
I just went back to Adobe Acrobat and clicked Page set-up. It loads my
printer driver (HP 720C) which has A4 as standard. I loaded several PDF
documents and so I saw that the SI brochure loads with A4, other files load
with converted 11 inch, and yet another loaded with 170*244.8 mm
...to whoever it was who posted the notice about the weather feature on the
TV in Michigan the other day. I am surprised no one else seemed to think
it was the funniest thing posted in a long time. I forwarded it to some
friends who thought it was hilarious, and maybe they just picked up a tad
o
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