I haven't bought any for a while, but it seems everybody has replaced it with
this 48 mm width. The store had about brands and they were all this width.
Given the painful 3 digit USC, I'm assuming masking tape has really gone metric.
Looks good. The only thing I noticed is pencil leads appear twice, at top and
about 70% down list.
From: James j...@metricmethods.com
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:40 AM
Subject: [USMA:54751] New Metric Moments page
Please review
My recommendations:Deletes: film (both movie and still), VCR tapes, 90 mm
floppies as obsolete
Adds:Also ball point and gel pens specify point in mm, like pencil leads.In the
refrigerated juice case, the 1.75 L carafe has largely replaced the half
gallonHardware stores generally have a good
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Yes, I see it too.
A few seem to also use the decimal point rather than decimal comma. While the
product brand claims to be from London, they are using the US fl oz, not
Imperial. I wonder if it is a failure to fully translate an Amazon US page.
From: Michael Payne
To be frank, on labels, we almost always spell it L.
From: Martin Vlietstra vliets...@btinternet.com
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: [USMA:54693] RE: FW: Consumer Reports Article on Unit Pricing
Just keep these products out
The International Dairy Foods Association lists several protocols (time and
temperature) for pasteurization, including ultra-pasteurized, which can be
stored at room temperature. The US uses mostly 15 s, 72 °C. I wonder if the
difference is merely which protocol is preferred or required. I
M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
The International Dairy Foods Association lists several protocols (time and
temperature) for pasteurization, including ultra-pasteurized, which can be
stored at room temperature. The US uses mostly 15 s, 72 °C. I wonder if the
difference is merely
that the US changed to Celsius temperatures for METARS.
Mike
On 03 Apr 2015, at 20:30, John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I could be wrong, but, honestly, I believe you have been taken in by an April
Fool's joke.
No diplomat would use an insensitive phrase like trade irritant. In 1988
is the URL Link to this proposed rule making?
Gene Mechtly
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [owner-u...@colostate.edu] on behalf of John M.
Steele [jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 7:08 PM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:54647] Re: Wyden Town Hall 2015 Salem
What is odd about that, Martin, is the US label uses the US spelling, liter.
They made a special but wrong label for the UK.
From: Martin Vlietstra vliets...@btinternet.com
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: [USMA:54653] RE:
Note that the Federal Register attached as a pdf is a notice of proposed rule
making by the FTC to amend their rules in support of FPLA. Some of us have
commented previously. I urge those commenters to particularly review sections
IV and V of the document dealing with recommendations they
Most lab (blood) tests in the US use a denominator of deciliter and whatever
prefix is convenient in the numerator. I think the reason is that 1 g/dL = 1%
on a weight/volume basis. I suspect that is a carryover of some prior practice
even though most interesting results are a fraction of a
ANSI does not, itself, develop standards. It accredits standards developing
organizations, and those organizations may submit their standards as proposed
ANSI standards. ASTM is such an organization. Note as an example that ANSI
SI10 is jointly developed by IEEE and ASTM (at one time they
of the *definitions* of
units of measurement from outside the SI. (e.g. dyne, erg and other cgs units
as well as US customary or inch-pound units)
Eugene A. (Gene) Mechtly.
On Jan 8, 2015, at 6:23 AM, John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
ANSI does not, itself, develop standards
Subject: [USMA:54556] Re: Metric BMI
Well then if my granddaughter Willow does not fall into the Normal range,
please tell me which range she falls into. Thanks.
- Message from John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net -
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 05:14:58 -0800
From: John M
BMI for children is interpreted quite differently, by percentile comparison to
their ages peers. The BMI ranges traditionally given apply to adults, age 20
and up. See the Wikipedia article linked in Stan's message.
The ranges would be a lot clearer if the index was always presented with
Or worse for liquids. Suppose milk is $2.99/gal. That is ALSO
74.8¢/qt
37.4¢/pt
2.3¢/fl oz
Seriously, if four stores each chose one of the allowed methods, how many
consumers could be expected to figure out the best deal? In metric, 79¢/L or
7.9¢/100 mL. With modified prices, this issue
Ignore prior note. I found the document at the link below:
http://www.nist.gov/pml/wmd/pubs/upload/SP1181-Unit-Pricing-Guide.pdf
I do stand on the comment below. Allowing different Customary units in a
category across stores makes unit pricing relatively useless to compare between
stores.
I believe they are wrong; there is no metric BTU. In Customary, M is
commonly used as the Roman numeral meaning thousand, so MM is thousand thousand
or a million. This is VERY common with BTU.
From: Mark Henschel mwhensch...@gmail.com
To: U.S. Metric
Well, I am a subscriber and know the answer. In the past I have used Customary
and Imperial, but I think emphasizing the national nature of each and the fact
that they are both poorly understand elsewhere makes perfect sense, so US
Customary and British (or UK) Imperial. That usage stands in
A correction: Lumens weren't introduced for CFLs. They have been on
incandescent bulb packages for a decade or more. Granted, they are more
important for CFLs and LEDs, as the watts tell you nothing about the amount of
light across technologies, but they are not recent. Remember, you are
This editorial is a possible contender for the most anti-metric diatribe
ever published in a real newspaper. The good news: At the moment, all
comments to the article stand in opposition.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/7/editorial-end-of-the-road-for-the-metric-system/
But that is a big IF. If filled to 454 g and 1 lb is claimed, 454 g is the
larger claim and is what must be check under the current law. However, many
packages are labeled 453 g | 1 lb in which case 1 lb is the larger claim and
must be checked.
I don't see that checking only the smaller
and label its weight, volume, etc. only in SI and that the only enforcement
would be that the actual weight, volume, etc. was equal to or greater than what
was stated on the package in SI only units.
From: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
To: USMA usma
According to this article, the US State Department is the official
representative to OIML, but NIST is designated as the technical representative.
It also somewhat explains NIST's role.
http://www.astm.org/SNEWS/JANUARY_2005/oppermann_jan05.html
From: Martin
Vehicle speeds should probably be amended to all highway signs. Distances,
overhead clearances, etc are all metric. But a lot of Canadians apparently use
inches and pounds for personal height and weight.
From: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net
Not even the hemisphere. Using figures from a Google search (510.1 million
km², 9 826 675 km², never mind the poor form of the 1st) the United States,
where Customary is used, is a little less than 1/50 the global area. I don't
know the word for a fiftieth of a sphere, but, if there is such a
and not to others?
Enforcement of the FPLA must not be confused with selective actions of the IRS!
Eugene Mechtly
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [owner-u...@colostate.edu] on behalf of John M.
Steele [jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:35 PM
labeling will be approved without much fuss or bother. At that
point the discretionary enforcement will end and no one will notice any
difference. ;-)
Ezra
From: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
To: USMA usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Thursday, July 31
I used the phrase selective enforcement which treat some differently from
others -- that's the risk. They used the term discretionary enforcement
which means enforce the parts of the law you like and not the parts of the law
you don't like. Anyway, the law requires dual. Omitting the
:54238] RE: FW: Comments to FTC from the NCWM NIST
I call foul. The snipe about our president is contrary to fact and, more
significantly here, off topic.
[End]
From: John M. Steele
jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.netmailto:jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To: John M. Steele
jmsteele9
Eugene,
Thanks for forwarding the NCWM comments on FPLA. An excellent set of comments
covering both the case of permissive-metric-only and the present dual labeling.
There is only one I disagree with. As much as I want permissive-metric-only, I
DON'T want it via enforcement discretion.
I will see your nitpick and raise you a nitpick. Ampere hours are a unit of
charge, not energy. Since the nominal voltage of the battery is not listed, we
don't know the energy.
From: James j...@metricmethods.com
To: U.S. Metric Association
The SI Brochure allows for certain variations and deprecates others. Any
national standard should fit within designating preferences where two or more
ways are acceptable. It would seem to me that people should follow the
national standard for their country of citizenship, or, if different,
I think the other guide quoted that said the thousands marker guidance does not
apply to financial data is right.
However, the SI Brochure (5.3.3 and 5.3.4) require acceptance of either the
comma or dot as decimal marker, and neither as a thousands marker, as well as
requiring the leading zero
On groupings, I see Wikipedia specifies the comma as a thousands separator but
allows the space in scientific/engineering articles. Nowhere do they require
the space as a thousands separator with SI units. In my opinion, the comma
should NOT be used as a thousands separator with SI units.
I
-is-a-billion-it-depends-where-you-live/
- Message from John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net -
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:55:17 -0700
From: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [USMA:54128] RE: Don't be a dunce
To me, it is a rather confused story. He revoked or banned the metric system
and reintroduced usual measures. BUT he redefined all the usual measure to
have simple relations to metric measures, something like a pound, but redefined
to be exactly half a kilogram. So he created hidden metric.
In that list, the two logical choices are millibars (same as hectopascals) and
kilopascals. In it's metric option, the National Weather Service uses
millibars(hectopascals) as do many other countries (gives numbers around 1000)
while Environment Canada uses kilopascals (numbers around 100).
But gigameters, terameters, petameters, etc. are not. That's what prefixes
are for, and they continue to a range that could handle the universe. The AU
is approximately 149.6 Gm, the parsec about 30.86 Pm.
From: Eric L Shuman ericlshu...@gmail.com
To: U.S.
in the picture? It wasn’t 1 L, but
999 mL. 1 L was converted to 33.8 fl oz and that was backconverted to 999
mL.
Since the label is in error, who do you complain to so hopefully the label
will be fixed?
From: John M. Steele
Sent: Thursday, 2014-06-26 21:21
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject
When following a c, an i or e makes the c soft, so an er ending would change
the pronunciation. That is why acre, lucre, and a few other words are
exceptions. Didn't your mothre or fathre teach you that?
It is NOT only the metric words that er/re differences, have you considered the
center
They have to leave the 1 L, because the FPLA requires DUAL labelling. Neither
the metric only nor Customary alone is sufficient under the current law. Your
hypothetical is illegal in the US.
From: Parker Willey Jr. pawil...@pacbell.net
To: U.S. Metric
Indeed, it is becoming perfectly clear. I even found the spelling example he
is searching for (between Brazilian and Continental Portuguese). However, for
some reason, the list server has not sent out my message, while sending others
today. I hope it is a technical problem and not that I've
The bigger problem is 50 States = 50 Ways. Eventually, the Feds would have
to step in to restore some order. However, I have no problem using it
temporarily as a cattle prod to get the Feds moving on metrication; nothing
else has worked.
On Monday, June 16, 2014 9:58 PM, mechtly, eugene a
I like it, but I doubt the committee will accept it.
I wish to particularly talk about point #2. If the units of measure are
decimally related, somechoice can be allowed, for example pricing per kilogram
or per 100 g. I can do the math in my head. However, if Customary is
retained, there
Is there a timeline yet on when the committee's document will be made available
for public comment?
It would be nice to know what they are thinking and make more germane comments,
rather than just commenting on old UUPR, per HB130.
On Monday, June 16, 2014 8:57 AM, John M. Steele jmsteele9
Well, the American version is the law. Congress amend the Metric Act of 1866
to the current text in 2007. Copying the text from the USMA Metric Laws page.
The final phrase is an indirect reference to SP 330 which is issued over
signature of the SoC. Further, I think forcing British spelling
The Nissan DC Fast Charge station requires 480 V 3-phase service and has output
power rated 44 kW. That is consistent with mostly charging the Leaf's 24 kW·h
battery in 30 min.
http://evsolutions.avinc.com/uploads/products/Nissan%20DC%20FC%20sales%20sheet_092812_r3_v1.pdf
The on-board 230 V
Charging you for electricity, why that's terrible. I don't know why the oil
companies don't give me free gasoline either. Free charging has been used as a
gimmick trying to promote EV but as it becomes more popular, I don't think it
is sustainable to expect other users to subsidize you. We
Gene,
I understand your view that the NCWM issues with USC seem futile and useless. I
would like to express a different view.
I have been concerned the FTC will simply ignore the comments and take a
do-nothing position, and repeat the whole exercise in ten years. I believe the
concerns raised
Company assumes all English-speaking nations understand and use the Imperial
system, don't bother to accommodate metric.
http://www.voxy.co.nz/technology/socialradar-now-available-nz/5/191054
This might work in the UK where they use Imperial on roads (and in pubs),
probably not so much in the
Pretty good article advocating metric system and teaching metric first.
http://www.dailysunnews.com/news/2014/may/21/thinking-metrically/
The AWOS she mentions is an Automated Weather Observation System, and, indeed,
the temperature and dew point are only output in degrees Celsius.
Jim,
I came up pretty dry. However, a few short reports are listed on this page
http://www.nist.gov/pml/wmd/pubs/archives-packaging-labeling.cfm
Reports F-002, 004, 007 and 009 may be somewhat responsive to your inquiry.
I found no detailed minutes, copies of submitted comments, etc. My
I can't read the number, but it looks like there is a number followed by PT
(for pint) in front of the 3.1 OZ.
Converting 800 mL, I get 27.05 OZ. Under largest whole unit rule it should
be 1 PT 11.1 OZ if I accept their rounding (meaning the true fill is Customary,
not metric). If it says
the pints and ounces to millilitres and then just
add
the 3 numbers together. I didn’t need a calculator as I already knew the
approximate number of millilitres in a pint and ounce.
From: John M. Steele
Sent: Tuesday, 2014-05-20 19:23
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53842] Re
Article about some leftover dual unit speed limit signs in South Dakota.
http://siouxcityjournal.com/lifestyles/trends/how-fast-kilometers-on-union-county-s-d-signs-a/article_ea34b317-bb79-5614-9290-69ba46c6cb23.html
In spite of the clear km/h markings on the sign photo (and also on the guy's
I used to point out both changes too. However, careful reading of SP 447 shows
that old bronze yard #11, the official physical standard before Mendenhall,
when compared to the modern 0.9144 m yard, had less than 0.1 X of the
discrepancy of Mendenhall yard 3600/3937 m.
If Mendenhall had done
Actually, we do. Ignore the media and use the National Weather Service. They
have many products and some are Customary only. However, find their Point
Forecast product and:
1. set it up for your zipcode or street address.
2. scroll down to bottom of page, find and click on the link for SI
Well, any one who wants it in metric can get it in metric. However, I don't
think the country is ready for forced metric. If the option for Customary
units were turned off, I think there would be a lot of complaints. Even
Environment Canada has an option to allow Imperial (although they
http://www.pharmacypracticenews.com/ViewArticle.aspx?d=Clinicald_id=50i=May+2014i_id=1060a_id=27456
Note that best practices #3 and #5 relate directly to metric/Customary errors.
The others simply demonstrate that other kinds of errors are possible. Some of
the others are VERY specific (a
Many of the classic symbols and abbreviations used in medical and
pharmaceutical fields are extremely arcane. There is complete assurance they
would NOT be understood by patients and are a poor way for doctors to
communicate with pharmacists. It is like they both have to learn Greek to keep
I see our comments finally made it to FTC site. The comments are numbered 1-9
but I notice three (of the numeric sequence) are not posted. Wonder if they
were private or considered frivolous.
You were smart to submit as a pdf file. My formatting was completely
eliminated and reduced to one
to be the preferred system of
units of measurement for trade and commerce in the United States.
Eugene.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 1:56 PM, John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Eugene,
This NIST reference is a little dated but gives a summary by State. MOST
States that list unit pricing detail
Eugene,
May I suggest an alternate approach? Many States also allow/encourage it on a
voluntary basis. In any State in which it is commonly used, it would be nice
to know if the standard is that of the UUPR (Uniform Unit Pricing Regulation)
contained in Handbook 130, or the State has
up thousands of false hits on unit pricing but
is a different use of the terms.
- Forwarded Message -
From: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Cc: kenneth.butc...@nist.gov kenneth.butc...@nist.gov; dsef...@nist.gov
dsef...@nist.gov
have great skill in searching the Internet.
Eugene.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:21 AM, John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Eugene,
May I suggest an alternate approach? Many States also allow/encourage it on a
voluntary basis. In any State in which it is commonly used, it would be nice
, eugene a mech...@illinois.edu
To: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu; Kenneth Butcher
kenneth.butc...@nist.gov; dsef...@nist.gov dsef...@nist.gov
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [USMA:53748] What do they Mandate?
John
To: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu; Kenneth Butcher
kenneth.butc...@nist.gov; dsef...@nist.gov dsef...@nist.gov
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [USMA:53748] What do they Mandate?
John,
I already have a hard (printed
: mechtly, eugene a mech...@illinois.edu
To: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu; Kenneth Butcher
kenneth.butc...@nist.gov; dsef...@nist.gov dsef...@nist.gov
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [USMA:53748] What do
AM, John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Eugene,
May I suggest an alternate approach? Many States also allow/encourage it on a
voluntary basis. In any State in which it is commonly used, it would be nice
to know if the standard is that of the UUPR (Uniform Unit Pricing Regulation
No idea why but there is apparently a long delay. I submitted my comments
April 16. At that time, only the 3/16 comments were listed. the 3/17, 4/2, and
4/3 comments were not yet listed as of 4/16. I had gone to the public listing
in hopes of verifying that mine had shown up. Interesting
Well, my analysis is that the company fills in Customary and has no
international customers.
3.5 OZ, converted with six or more significant figures is 99.2233g, and
truncated to the allowable
three significant figures on the package is 99.2 g, as required by FTC rules.
A metric fill of 100 g
Two theories:
*Same physical can, redecorated, can be used in the UK
*Canada is more willing to ignore the USC as long as the metric is correct.
Given that New York shares a border with Canada, I would bet on theory B.
Based on the metric, both the pint and the fl oz are US-sized.
Cycle World points out how it is easier to mix oil/fuel correctly in metric
units for two-stroke engines.
http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/04/14/how-to-mix-two-stroke-fuel/
Quote: If you’re working with the metric system, it’s easy: 10cc of oil to
400cc of fuel. Imperial measurements are a
http://www.csemag.com/single-article/soft-and-hard-metric-conversions/8203d3c07c36773c13673e99ca608165.html
Quote:Soft metric is not a mix of imperial and metric measurements, and
the Dept. of Defense does not recommend it for engineering drawings.
They would be better off forbidding it than
,
some are Customary only.
From: Carleton MacDonald carlet...@comcast.net
To: 'John M. Steele' jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: [USMA:53694] RE: What To Tell Companies Deficient in Labeling in
Metric Units
Most
Sadly, they are not delinquent. The FPLA does not apply to meat and poultry
because they are under the jurisdiction of a different Federal agency.
I think it is a lame excuse, all net contents should be controlled in one place
not divided over half a dozen different Federal agencies, but thew
Glad it went well. In your blog, you asked three questions. You'll have to do
your own research, but my thoughts on the three:
*The military is too broad. I think you'll find the Army is very metric, in
particular using UTM maps with coordinates in meters. I think you will find
the Navy and
I think you need to get facts straight and start with the root of the problem.
Costco can NOT unilaterally change to metric-only labels. Your statement that
metric-only labels are legal in 48 states is NOT completely true. It is only
true for items regulated by the state, not the Federal
Either can be first, and metric-sized fills are perfectly acceptable. It just
has to be marked in both units.
From: John Altounji phy...@msn.com
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:25 PM
Subject: [USMA:53645] RE:
A reader in Singapore asks why their water authority still uses gallons.
http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-does-pub-still-use-gallons-metric-age#inside
The good news is that they get an answer and a policy change:
http://www.todayonline.com/voices/pubs-use-gallon-line-msian-water-agreements
I used Australia as I don't read German. 600 mm installation width.
http://www.bosch-home.com.au/appliances/dishwashers/fully-integrated/SMV69T10AU.html?source=browse
From: Harry Wyeth hbwy...@earthlink.net
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
That's fine. We both agree it is indispensable. We just have different
preferred values, which is EXACTLY why it needs to be on the label.
From: c...@traditio.com c...@traditio.com
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 5,
In USMA message #53611, Stan Jakuba wrote, On the positive side, I applaud the
use of the kelvin, both as a spelled
name and as K. On the other hand, I am at a loss as to the usefulness of
this information to the average buyer.
(Sorry, I've already erased it so I can't reply to it.)
In my opinion, most of the earlier press articles presented a great deal of
misinformation (disinformation?). The FDA has their own press release on
exactly what they are proposing. There are a pile of links at the bottom with
more information. Note that the two Federal Register notices of
The existing Uniform Unit Pricing Regulation (from 2013 Handbook 130) already
requires uniformity of the pricing unit for like products and ties the method
of pricing to the method of declaring net contents. I'm sure the working group
is fully aware of the UUPR, but perhaps not all USMA
Well,4 of the 6 are currently legal choices, but each store must pick one and
stick to it for all sizes. They can NOT use a different for unit pricing of
the half-pint and five gallon pail. Although not allowed, some do switch and
that qualifies as WORST practice. I can live with any of the
I agree with you. However, the accent on the lom is the first listed
pronunciation in my Webster's New World College Dictionary, with the proper
pronunciation listed second.
(Brazilian) Portuguese is quilômetro, qui-lô-me-tro, with accent on 2nd
syllable; I am not sure about Continental
The 2-6/25 is pretty interesting. Strict conversion of the 57 mm gives 2.2441
so it would have been a negligible error to round to 2.25 (2-1/4, using their
notation). The inches are only for English-speaking Americans, and the
centimeters for Spanish speaking. :)
Why is 57 mm inconvenient?
Or, the engineer started at 2-1/4
His boss said, Hey dummy, we're metric and it became 57 mm.
It came to marketand Marketing got involved; it became 2-6/25, 5.7 cm.
From: Ressel, Howard R (DOT) howard.res...@dot.ny.gov
To: John M. Steele jmsteele9
However, the page also says they have sent their proposal to the White House
for review. After they know what Obama thinks, I wonder how much our public
input will really matter.
I suppose I couldn't argue if they ADDED teaspoons and kept grams, but the
grams should not be removed. Are they
I presume the lack of metric marking. However, looking at Google images, the
individual cans are marked in dual.
From: Michael Payne metricmik...@gmail.com
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Cc: USMA usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Wednesday, January
Resending. I originally sent this Sunday but the list server doesn't appear to
have sent it out. My apologies if it turns out to be a duplicate.
This thread is inspired by one on the ACWM page noting the company sells root
beer in a 12 fl oz size NOT also properly labeled in metric per
Another version of the press release shows some screen shots, and it uses km/L;
however, it mis-symbolizes as KPL. It also showed examples of maximum speed
and average speed etc to demonstrate safety features. As the maximum speed was
in excess of 150 km/h(156?) and mis-symbolized as KPH, I
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs
From: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2014 5:43 AM
Subject: [USMA:53483] RE: Fleet Genius Pro management software now supports
metric
I suggest you instead use the Wikipedia articles on the metre and history of
the metre. Link to the first is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre
It has the advantage of actually using references. The other one might have
been written by ACWM or BWMA as they both like to assert the meter was
I don't understand the issue. I looked at the back cover and she uses no
non-standard abbreviation for liter. She uses the lowercase l while upper
case L is the preferred symbol in the US. However, both have to be regarded
as acceptable for consistency with the BIPM's SI Brochure.
I haven't
Of
John M. Steele
Sent: 25 December 2013 17:44
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53459] Re: Big-Bang Metrication
I don't understand the issue. I looked at the back cover and she uses no
non-standard abbreviation for liter. She uses the lowercase l while upper
case L is the preferred
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