Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit group member

2008-01-15 Thread Weber, Philip
In our experience : DSSUs don't work in Storage Unit Groups at NBU 5.1 as NBU isn't clever enough to handle one unit being full and move onto another. Having said that, it shouldn't fail jobs when the DSSU is 100% full unless it hasn't found any old images which can be expired from disk

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit group member

2008-01-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Jan 15, 2008 5:35 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand disk staging to be much improved in 6.5.1 so am hopeing to get upgraded in the next month or so. It has certainly gotten better in each release. 5.1 wasn't all that great, 6.0 was pretty good, and I don't think

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit groupmember

2008-01-15 Thread Weber, Philip
I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't df show how full the DSSU is? Or do you mean how full as in what % remains to be staged to tape? I wrote my own disk staging script for NBU 4.5 which uses bpimmedia to list all details of all images in the DSSU then takes a minute or 2 to check the status

Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups only writing to one storage unit groupmember

2008-01-15 Thread Ed Wilts
On Jan 15, 2008 8:11 AM, Weber, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. Doesn't df show how full the DSSU is? Or do you mean how full as in what % remains to be staged to tape? The DSSU is designed to be almost full all the time so a df is rather useless. What I would

[Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread ANIL555
Hi We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run after putting full tape in library. If that is true, how can we avoide ? Your help is very much appreciated. THX

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Randy Samora
Without an inventory being run, NetBackup wouldn't know the tape was there so it shouldn't overwrite it. If you are putting a full tape in the library, I'm assuming the tape is being used for a restore? If so, write protecting the tape seems to be the easiest solution. The only other reason I

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Keating
Even if you did update the inventory, if the tape has not been expired (images no longer valid) Netbackup will know about the data and not overwrite the tape. The only issue would be if you had a tape that had already expired, which you put into the library to restore from. You would have to do

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Kristofer
In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't match what it

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 21, Issue 19

2008-01-15 Thread Joe Royer
If you put a TSM tape in a library that is now controlled by NBU, then yes, NBU will overwrite it because it has no knowledge of the TSM database. Running an inventory isn't going to help in this situation, you will need to keep track of when TSM expires the tape so you can recycle it under

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Jon Bousselot
I can confirm this action, as I've experienced it first hand. Where I've seen NBU find a difference between the inventory and the tape header is on a blind library (no barcode reader) or where a user has opened the door and physically manipulated tapes without updating the inventory. If you

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Randy Samora
Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on there written by TSM? Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristofer Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Geyer, Gregory
NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it: http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Curtis Preston
I agree that this is the proper behavior, but I've never tested it with TSM tapes. I would put a TSM that you CAN delete in there and try to label it in NBU via bplabel without the -o option and see what happens. I agree with Gregory that it should not overwrite it (unless you specify the -o

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Jon Bousselot
In 2007, I received about 500 tapes written by Commvault Galaxy 5.9. I put new barcode stickers on the cartridge, loaded them in the tape library, inventoried them into the SCRTCH pool, and did not make any modifications to the media manager. It used them all without any complaints.

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Peter Marelas
Write protect the full tapes. That will stop anything writing to them. Sent by GoodLink (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 08:57 AM US Mountain Standard Time To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Sesar, Steven L.
It won't happen. If you really want to be retentive about this, create a volume pool called DONT_USE and move any media that you don't want to use in there. This is overkill, though. === Steven L. Sesar Lead Operating Systems Programmer/Analyst UNIX

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Curtis Preston
YEAH! Go old school on that bad boy! --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Marelas Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

2008-01-15 Thread Randy Samora
Back to one of my original questions; why are you putting the tapes in the library to begin with? I think we're providing the right solution for the wrong issue. Thanks, Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Tuesday,

[Veritas-bu] Recovery from hot catalog secondary copy

2008-01-15 Thread Martin Ruslan
Dear guys, as subject, can Netbackup recover the entire catalog from the secondary copy hot catalog backup? I already tried, but always failed (partially success). If using the primary copy, everything goes fine. Also tried bpchangeprimary the secondary copy (importing the image first), still

[Veritas-bu] About NetBackup 6.0 license

2008-01-15 Thread moehatdee
Hi All, I have three Unix boxes running HP-UX 11.0, one library with 4 drives, all are connected to SAN. I'm using NetBackup software version 6.0. I configured my backup system as the following: 1. Master EMM Server - HP-UX 11.0 - shared drive - Oracle 9i 2. Media Server - HP UX 11.0 - shared

[Veritas-bu] database consistency and Compression

2008-01-15 Thread Abhishek Dhingra1
Hi Gurus, Need help in doing Catalog Compression and database consistency check, I am working in an environment where we are running our master server on AIX with netbackup 6.0 MP4 and we have around 20 Media Servers(including 10 SAN Media Server) and more then 500 client , The