Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-12 Thread Pete Prodoehl
From what I know of RED workflow, you work on smaller proxy files, and then with the final rendering, the hi-res versions are used. This makes editing *much* faster, as we've just learned... Here's some related info on FCP and proxy editing: http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1057975

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-12 Thread Rupert
This is the way we used to work on AVID. Then we had a blissful 10 year interim period with FCP SD editing where you got to cut the actual clips at original resolution, even if you were doing an online afterwards. Guess it'll take a while again before the processing power catches up

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-10 Thread John Coffey
Well said David! Did DEVO write the song Blockhead about this guy? --- On Sun, 11/8/09, taoofdavid65 taoofda...@gmail.com wrote: From: taoofdavid65 taoofda...@gmail.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:04 AM

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-10 Thread David Jones
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:13 AM, John Coffey jimmycrackhead2...@yahoo.com wrote: Well said David! Did DEVO write the song Blockhead about this guy? LOL! So I'm a blockhead for asking a reasonable question, and than having enough nous to not blindly follow other peoples advice, and instead use

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-10 Thread taoofdavid65
I owe you an apology. I thought your were actually attempting to edit MP4 files. Not just butt them up against each other and export them. My bad. David --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Jones david.jo...@... wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:13 AM, John Coffey

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-09 Thread David Jones
Well, it turns out the solution has been under my nose the whole time! My current editing software Ulead Video Studio Pro X2 *CAN* edit HD without too many problems at all on my current (not high end) hardware. I found an option in the program preferences called Smart Proxy which was caching(?)

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-09 Thread compumavengal
Congratulations! This was a good experience for both of us I think. You don't necessarily have to accept what others are telling you or you can use it as information but keep looking for your own answer. I wouldn't have changed Smart Proxy because I don't quite know what it means. I assure you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-09 Thread Rupert
Marvellous! Congrats. Glad you didn't listen to me and kept on trying :) I know only too well how offputting unnecessary extra steps are - it's one of the things that pushed me to start experimenting with doing all the shooting, cutting posting in my phone. Something that Nokia has

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-09 Thread Jay dedman
YOU CAN edit MP4 files directly on ordinary hardware! I can film my blog in HD 1280x720 30fps MP4 on my Xacti HD1010 and copy the MP4 files directly to my drive and drop straight into the timeline in VS Pro X2 and trim and edit without any conversion or other messing around. Then just hit the

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-09 Thread hpbatman7
To render out in mp4 in Vegas you need to go to file, render as. Then in the drop down box, select mainconcept.mp4 and this then should give you an option for an Ipod version, if you select one of those and select the custom tab to the right you can then tweak the setings to get the mp4 output

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-09 Thread David Jones
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:57 AM, compumavengal compumaven...@earthlink.net wrote: Congratulations! This was a good experience for both of us I think. You don't necessarily have to accept what others are telling you or you can use it as information but keep looking for your own answer. I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-08 Thread Rupert
Amused as I am by you telling David H that he's off the mark, just as he sounds like he's about to blow... (wait - 3, 2, 1, I think I can hear him popping like Krakatoa from 7000 miles away) He's actually right. MP4 - particularly H264 MP4 - are notoriously bad to edit with. They *look*

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-08 Thread David Jones
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Rupert rup...@twittervlog.tv wrote: Amused as I am by you telling David H that he's off the mark, just as he sounds like he's about to blow... (wait - 3, 2, 1, I think I can hear him popping like Krakatoa from 7000 miles away) He's actually right.   MP4 -

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-08 Thread compumavengal
David J. I get it, you want what you want how you want it. I might have found an option that isn't gonna cost money to try the demo. VoltaicHD http://shedworx.com/voltaichd I haven't used this program so I can't attest to the quality. It states that it can convert to any Mac and PC option so

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-08 Thread Jay dedman
Honestly, Google it online - in almost every type of editing, there's some kind of preparation of clips.  It seems like an insane waste of time, I know - why can't the editing companies adapt their software so we don't have to do this whole extra step, when it seems so close? But at the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-08 Thread David Jones
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:59 AM, compumavengal compumaven...@earthlink.net wrote: David J. I get it, you want what you want how you want it. I might have found an option that isn't gonna cost money to try the demo. VoltaicHD http://shedworx.com/voltaichd I haven't used this program so I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-08 Thread Kath O'Donnell
I use VoltaicHD on mac for my HD videos, as the camera stores them as .mts files so I need to convert before editing. ( I couldn't get mpeg streamclip to do this) works well. though yes, it takes time makes large files but they convert down afterwards to smaller files. which is sometimes why I

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-07 Thread taoofdavid65
Ok...listen... You use MPEG Streamclip to convert your video BEFORE you begin editing it. NOT after. You use MPEG Streamclip to uncompress the MP4 files so that you can edit them. You cant edit MP4 files. MP4 are highly compressed and if you try to edit them, you're going to have problems.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-07 Thread David Jones
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM, taoofdavid65 taoofda...@gmail.com wrote: Ok...listen... You use MPEG Streamclip to convert your video BEFORE you begin editing it. NOT after. You use MPEG Streamclip to uncompress the MP4 files so that you can edit them. You cant edit MP4 files. MP4 are

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-03 Thread David Jones
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:27 PM, taoofdavid65 taoofda...@gmail.com wrote: Gena already told you to convert the footage using MPEG Streamclip. I have an Xacti and I edit on a MacBook Pro that has higher specs than your system. I use Final Cut Pro. I have to convert the footage before editing

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-03 Thread hpbatman7
This is an excellent point Michael, I think we all got really spoiled with how easy it is to edit in DV/SD, etc. There are so many HD flavors out there right now and you just need a ton of processing power to edit it, if you arn't going to convert it first. It sucks but I think we are still

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-03 Thread hpbatman7
I think you are going to be stuck wity extra steps here...I just got a zi8, now my computer is almost 4 years old now, but at the time I got it, it was screaming, dedicated video card and everything. I wanted to edit video with this machine for a while. And for standard def, it's awesome.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-03 Thread Michael Verdi
It's not always a question of your computer being able to handle the HD video (especially if you've bought it in the last 3 years or so). It's more a question of the codec not being designed to be edited. - Verdi

[videoblogging] Re: Slow HD editing

2009-11-02 Thread taoofdavid65
Gena already told you to convert the footage using MPEG Streamclip. I have an Xacti and I edit on a MacBook Pro that has higher specs than your system. I use Final Cut Pro. I have to convert the footage before editing it too. Search the archives. There's an abundance of posts regarding