Any ideas why Redhat wants to convert vim back to the
limitations of the old vi?
I know several distributions install vim-tiny (or its minimal
counterpart) as a way to pack as much power as possible in as
little disk space as possible. Consider dedicated routers and
old machines where disk &
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:31 AM, howard Schwartz wrote:
> This may not be the place to ask about this but: I recently had the misery
> of trying to work with vim on a Redhat Linux distribution at a university.
> By default, apparently (version 7.3)
Are you talking about 12+ years old Redhat 7.3?
On 29/01/12 05:23, howard Schwartz wrote:
Linux ubunix02.acsu.buffalo.edu 2.6.18-274.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8
21:37:35 EST 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Vim: minimal:
VIM - Vi IMproved 7.0 (2006 May 7, compiled Aug 4 2010 07:21:53)
Included patches: 1, 3-4, 7-9, 11, 13-17, 19-26, 29-31,
On 28/01/12 16:43, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
[...] if you install gvim, then set up a symlink named "vim" pointing
to it [...]
[...] For instance in bash, after installing gvim, you would do
pushd ~/bin
ln -sv `which gvim` vim
popd
Why the pushd/
On 01/28/2012 07:07 AM, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> Hi Tony!
>
> On Sa, 28 Jan 2012, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
>> Beware that the order of the arguments of the "ln" command is
>> unintuitive: target first, then link name.
>
> If you think of it as a command, that always needs a target, but does
On 29/01/12 00:57, howard Schwartz wrote:
As mentioned the link does not work. But curious. is their some reason
linking gvim to a name like vim would work, when just renaming gvim to
vim -- or copying gvim to vim and putting the latter in some directory
early in one's path would not work?
[...]
On 28/01/12 20:33, howard Schwartz wrote:
thanks for your advice and I was hoping to find it worked. It took a lot
of looking for find a gvim for X11 that is meant for fedora or redhat.
Most links of the search rpm engines do not seem to work.
However, with or without a symbolic link or copy, wh
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
[...] if you install gvim, then set up a symlink named "vim" pointing
to it [...]
[...] For instance in bash, after installing gvim, you would do
pushd ~/bin
ln -sv `which gvim` vim
popd
Why the pushd/popd? This is more straightforward:
ln -sv `
On 01/28/2012 07:07 AM, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> On Sa, 28 Jan 2012, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
>> Beware that the order of the arguments of the "ln" command is
>> unintuitive: target first, then link name.
>
> If you think of it as a command, that always needs a target, but does
> not necessarily
Hi Tony!
On Sa, 28 Jan 2012, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
> Beware that the order of the arguments of the "ln" command is
> unintuitive: target first, then link name.
If you think of it as a command, that always needs a target, but does
not necessarily need a link name, then it is not intuitive.
re
On 28/01/12 05:17, howard Schwartz wrote:
Thanks for the advice but this did not seem true for me. I did install
an X-11 version of vim === a binary rpm package. I got gvim and a
creature called evim which I recall is a vim designed to run like a MS
windows editor, with no modes.
gvim did not ru
On 28/01/12 05:03, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
On 27/01/12 09:25, howardb21 wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:39 pm, Steve Hall wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, howard
Schwartz wrote:
Redhat's ``enhanced'' version is not - It adds one or two trivial
features.
Better check your :version, vim-enhanced
On 27/01/12 09:25, howardb21 wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:39 pm, Steve Hall wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, howard Schwartz wrote:
Redhat's ``enhanced'' version is not - It adds one or two trivial features.
Better check your :version, vim-enhanced is compiled by redhat with
the "huge" +f
I am running centos 5.7.
Here is what I have with details of how I got it just using the repo
rpms. I did have to alias vim-->vimx. Hope this helps.
*ops@ida:~:114#* yum list | grep vim
vim-X11.i386
2:7.0.109-7.el5 installed
vim-common.i
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:14, howardb21 wrote:
> Again I say onto you all - on RedHat `enhanced' is not enhanced. It
> provides very very few extra features.
>
>From your earlier email you mention 7.3, that sounds like RHL, not
RHEL. That version could be 8 or 10 years old, what VIM version is o
On Jan 27, 2012 at 12:08 AM -0800, howardb21 wrote:
Apparently, in redhat one only gets a decent set of features compiled,
if one installs the graphics version of gvim.
This isn't an authoritative response by any means, but that's what I
found. My experience is with an RHEL 5.3 system where I
On Jan 27, 2:25 am, howardb21 wrote:
> On Jan 26, 3:39 pm, Steve Hall wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, howard Schwartz
> > wrote:
>
> > > Redhat's ``enhanced'' version is not - It adds one or two trivial
> > > features.
>
> > Better check your :version, vim-enhanced is compiled
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 08:12, howardb21 wrote:
>
> I installed the source and tried various work arounds to the standard
> make. But this is a large, networked computer system maintained by a
> major university. They are not about to give one of their ordinary
> usuers root priviliges. And one ne
Hi howardb21!
On Fr, 27 Jan 2012, howardb21 wrote:
> Yes there is. But my friend who uses this university computer is blind
> faculty member who uses telnet and a text based screen reader. He
> needs vim, and can not use gvim.
The graphical package should also contain a text binary. If not, simp
On Jan 26, 3:39 pm, Steve Hall wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, howard Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Redhat's ``enhanced'' version is not - It adds one or two trivial features.
>
> Better check your :version, vim-enhanced is compiled by redhat with
> the "huge" +feature-list. Only the "-" ite
On Jan 26, 1:48 pm, Ben Fritz wrote:
> On Jan 26, 10:31 am, howard Schwartz wrote:
> Is there a "vim-gui" or "gvim" or "vim-gtk" or similar package? That
> probably is fairly full-featured and should be able to run in a
> console as well.
Yes there is. But my friend who uses this university c
I already had the common package with the runtime files, etc. They do
not provide features that must be compiled in the basic binary. yes I
was hopeful when I read wht you quote below. But when I installed
`enhanced' I stil saw minus signs by almost all of the features. e.g.
,-clientserver -clipbo
Again I say onto you all - on RedHat `enhanced' is not enhanced. It
provides very very few extra features.
On Jan 26, 9:23 am, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On a recent CentOS I see it is vim-enhanced:
> # yum install vim-enhanced
>
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On Jan 26, 9:20 am, Reid Thompson wrote:
> what steps did you take and what errors did you get (for compiling and
> configuring the vim source)
I installed the source and tried various work arounds to the standard
make. But this is a large, networked computer system maintained by a
major univers
It is a big deal. RedHat has an `enhanced' version (compared to
`minimal'), which I did install. The so called `inhanced' had I
believe only 2 extra features, and still lacked such simple
conveniences as command line history. Apparently, in redhat one only
gets a decent set of features compiled, if
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, howard Schwartz wrote:
>
> Redhat's ``enhanced'' version is not - It adds one or two trivial features.
Better check your :version, vim-enhanced is compiled by redhat with
the "huge" +feature-list. Only the "-" items below are missing from mine:
VIM - Vi IMproved
On Jan 26, 10:31 am, howard Schwartz wrote:
> This may not be the place to ask about this but: I recently had the misery of
> trying to work with vim on a Redhat Linux distribution at a university. By
> default, apparently (version 7.3) is severely crippled with minus signs next
> to almost ever
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 19:27, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
> Dotan Cohen, Thu 2012-01-26 @ 19:23:10+0200:
>> On a recent CentOS I see it is vim-enhanced:
>
> howard Schwartz, Thu 2012-01-26 @ 08:31:02-0800:
>> Redhat's ``enhanced'' version is not - It adds one or two trivial features.
According to yum:
Dotan Cohen, Thu 2012-01-26 @ 19:23:10+0200:
> On a recent CentOS I see it is vim-enhanced:
howard Schwartz, Thu 2012-01-26 @ 08:31:02-0800:
> Redhat's ``enhanced'' version is not - It adds one or two trivial features.
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On a recent CentOS I see it is vim-enhanced:
# yum install vim-enhanced
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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 18:31, howard Schwartz wrote:
> This may not be the place to ask about this but: I recently had the misery
> of trying to work with vim on a Redhat Linux distribution at a university.
> By default, apparently (version 7.3) is severely crippled with minus signs
> next to alm
On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 08:31 -0800, howard Schwartz wrote:
> I tried to build vim from regular source, and laughed at
> the vim.org claim that ``building vim is easy''.
what steps did you take and what errors did you get
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On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 08:31 -0800, howard Schwartz wrote:
> OK - that is my tirade. Any suggestions?
which redhat version are you on?
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This may not be the place to ask about this but: I recently had the misery of
trying to work with vim on a Redhat Linux distribution at a university. By
default, apparently (version 7.3) is severely crippled with minus signs next
to almost every feature one can think of -- command line completio
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