changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-18 Thread at
My .tex files typically look like... -- This is some text that I'm writing in a paragraph, blah blah blah, etc. etc. \begin{equation} a = b + c \end{equation} --- I currently have formatoptions = tcqwa. This works great for the text pa

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-19 Thread A. S. Budden
2009/8/19 at : > > My .tex files typically look like... > > -- > This is some text that I'm writing in a paragraph, > blah blah blah, etc. etc. > > \begin{equation} >    a = b + c > \end{equation} > --- > > I currently have formatoptions = tc

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-19 Thread at
Thanks. I'm surprised there's no better way. I can't get used to watching my spaces at the end of equation lines, so I think I'll go for formatoptions=tcqw and then make a binding to gwap that I can hit occasionally. On Aug 19, 7:11 am, "A. S. Budden" wrote: > 2009/8/19 at : > > > > > > > My .te

RE: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-19 Thread John Beckett
Please bottom post on this list. Quote a small (relevant) part of the message you are replying to, and put your text underneath. See the list guidelines: http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/web/vim-information --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message fr

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-20 Thread Wayne
Hi John Why people hates bottom post? B.R. Wayne On 8/20/09, John Beckett wrote: > > Please bottom post on this list. Quote a small (relevant) part > of the message you are replying to, and put your text underneath. > > See the list guidelines: > http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/web/vim-in

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-20 Thread Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado
Saluton Wayne :) Wayne dixit: > Why people hates bottom post? First of all, you topposted after being warned about list guidelines. Please DON'T TOP POST ON THIS LIST. See the list guidelines, again: >> http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/web/vim-information Second, it's not a matter of hat

RE: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-20 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
>Hi John >Why people hates bottom post? >B.R. >Wayne Ummm, people *like* bottom-post. Once I see a top-poster's text come to an end, then the "On , said:"-line followed by an earlier reply, I simply stop reading. If that means I don't have any context as to what you were asking/answering/stati

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-30 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 19/08/09 17:21, at wrote: > > Thanks. I'm surprised there's no better way. I can't get used to > watching my spaces at the end of equation lines, so I think I'll go > for formatoptions=tcqw and then make a binding to gwap that I can hit > occasionally. With :set list listchars=tab:\ \

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-08-30 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 20/08/09 21:00, Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado wrote: > > Saluton Wayne :) > > Wayne dixit: >> Why people hates bottom post? > > First of all, you topposted after being warned about list guidelines. > Please DON'T TOP POST ON THIS LIST. See the list guidelines, again: >>> http://groups.google.c

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-01 Thread Wayne
Hi Tony, ( I don't know where to write "hi Tony" when bottom-post, jsut do it as before) On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tony Mechelynck < antoine.mechely...@gmail.com> wrote: > ("sic" because > I would have asked "why people hate bottom posting" or maybe "why people > hate to bottom-post": "peop

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 12:20:20PM +0800, Wayne wrote: > Certainly, I should edit quoted part rather than directly bottom-post, but I > don't want to edit > other's post. Why not? Deleting irrelevant text (snipping) is necessary. As long as you don't alter the meaning of the OP then it makes the

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-08 Thread Wayne
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Chris Bannister < mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz> wrote: > > Why not? Deleting irrelevant text (snipping) is necessary. As long as > you don't alter the meaning of the OP then it makes the whole thing a > lot easier to read/follow. > If the mail I got was to track sta

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:04:32PM +0800, Wayne wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Chris Bannister < > mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz> wrote: > > > > > Why not? Deleting irrelevant text (snipping) is necessary. As long as > > you don't alter the meaning of the OP then it makes the whole thing

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-08 Thread Fuzzy Logic
Discouraged by some people, not all. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > Top posting is to be discouraged. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_use" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.ph

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-08 Thread Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado
Fuzzy Logic skribis: > Discouraged by some people, not all. It is against list guidelines: http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/web/vim-information So please, don't do it on this list. -- Raúl "DervishD" Núñez de Arenas Coronado Linux Registered User 88736 | http://www.dervishd.net It's my

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-08 Thread Fuzzy Logic
2009/9/8 Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado : > > Fuzzy Logic   skribis: >> Discouraged by some people, not all. > > It is against list guidelines: > http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/web/vim-information > > So please, don't do it on this list. Don't take this as combative, but I'm more concerned

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-08 Thread Wayne
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Fuzzy Logic wrote: > > Don't take this as combative, but I'm more concerned with answering a > question correctly than arbitrary rules about > top/bottom/side/inverted-with-slightly-offset posting. Oh, proper > trimming of text is actually important. > > I can't ag

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-08 Thread Fuzzy Logic
I am one of the old USENET folks, and the rule to ALWAYS bottom-post was equally silly then, as it is now. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Wayne wrote: > I can't agree with you more. I just do what's needed, and try to be > comprehensive. > Don't like some child-scaring fellow, enjoying throwin

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread Spencer Collyer
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:54:54 +0800, Wayne wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Fuzzy Logic wrote: > > > > > Don't take this as combative, but I'm more concerned with answering > > a question correctly than arbitrary rules about > > top/bottom/side/inverted-with-slightly-offset posting. Oh, pr

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 9, 2009, at 1:12 AM, Spencer Collyer wrote: > On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:54:54 +0800, Wayne wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Fuzzy Logic >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Don't take this as combative, but I'm more concerned with answering >>> a question correctly than arbitrary rules about >>> t

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread bill lam
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009, Wayne wrote: > Don't like some child-scaring fellow, enjoying throwing out his/her warning > over and over again. I can see the moderators are patient and polite when reminding bottom posting. IMO your analogy is inappropriate. -- regards, =

RE: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
>I can see the moderators are patient and polite when reminding bottom >posting. IMO your analogy is inappropriate. Well, I don't really care about what any moderators might do on the list, but those who *insist* on top-posting, sending html email with garish colorschemes or blinding backgrounds

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado
Saluton Gene :) Gene Kwiecinski skribis: >>I can see the moderators are patient and polite when reminding bottom >>posting.  IMO your analogy is inappropriate. > > Well, I don't really care about what any moderators might do on the > list, but those who *insist* on top-posting, sending html ema

RE: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
>>And there's a big clue right there.  If someone who insists on >>top-posting, or sending garish html email, etc., were to not get a >>single reply to his query, later ask why not, *then* someone would >>clue in the person as to why not, hey, he'll *learn*.  But as long as >>people give the rude

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado
Saluton Gene :) Gene Kwiecinski skribis: >>Any member should be aware of the list guidelines, but I'm realistic >>and I know that almost nobody reads them, so a warning is not a bad >>idea: > > Absolutely.  But typically no one corrects (even unintentional) bad > behavior, the offender continue

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-09 Thread Wayne
Hi there, You defeated me :( Let's finish the quarrel and focus VIM. > > >I can see the moderators are patient and polite when reminding bottom > >posting. IMO your analogy is inappropriate. > > Well, I don't really care about what any moderators might do on the > list, but those who *insist* on

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-10 Thread Jan-Herbert Damm
Hello Gene, i am surprised that - especially in this discussion - your lines seem to be not wrapped ;) snip: > Understood, but those who *can't* bottom-post (eg, on Berries) can say so, > and for a while at least, that can be forgiven, ie, use a normal computer > next time. Berries are nice

RE: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-10 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
>>Point out the list's convention, suggest not too subtly that doing so >>will get answers vs being ignored, and most likely, problem solved. >>Get an argument why top-posting should be acceptable, and the person >>then gets ignored. >Although I think more or less like you, I wouldn't impose such

RE: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-10 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
>i am surprised that - especially in this discussion - your lines seem to be >not wrapped ;) That surprised me. too. Usually, no, make that *always*, in the past, some "preprocessor" or whatever automagically reformatted the lines to fit the list, sometimes even ending up in those B'harni-awful

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-10 Thread Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado
Saluton Gene :) Gene Kwiecinski skribis: > Hell, if only Chip, Tony, Tim, and a few other prolific "answerers" > would adopt that as their own policy, to ignore TPers, that would > probably take care of about 80% of possible replies.  :D That's true XDDD >>>I just don't have the time/

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-10 Thread Tim Chase
> if only Chip, Tony, Tim, and a few other prolific "answerers" > would adopt that as their own policy, to ignore TPers, that > would probably take care of about 80% of possible replies. :D If it's a direct question regarding my reply, I tend to rejigger top-posting on the first instance (hey,

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-19 Thread Tony Mechelynck
Tony. Best regards, is it. this know why, yet If you don't posters. regular of its majority and a huge this one, including most definitely (not all), but lists mailing some and on (not all) people by some Discouraged On 08/09/09 16:31, Fuzzy Logic wrote: > > Discouraged by some people, not all.

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-19 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 09/09/09 19:40, Gene Kwiecinski wrote: > >> I can see the moderators are patient and polite when reminding bottom >> posting. IMO your analogy is inappropriate. > > Well, I don't really care about what any moderators might do on the > list, but those who *insist* on top-posting, sending html e

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-19 Thread Tony Mechelynck
On 10/09/09 20:35, Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado wrote: > > Saluton Gene :) > > Gene Kwiecinski skribis: >> Hell, if only Chip, Tony, Tim, and a few other prolific "answerers" >> would adopt that as their own policy, to ignore TPers, that would >> probably take care of about 80% of possible repli

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-19 Thread Fuzzy Logic
Top-posting is only bad when you don't know how to do it. It takes practice, Tony. On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > > Tony. > Best regards, > > is it. > this > know why, > yet > If you don't > posters. > regular > of its > majority > and a huge > this one, > including >

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-19 Thread Fuzzy Logic
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Tony Mechelynck wrote: > I believe in mutual respect. Fair enough. > To the guy whose post is _nothing but_ a cursory, unfounded assertion > that top-posting is better How about a founded assertion? I find that if I'm actively following a thread, and the topi

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-20 Thread bill lam
Or can you just compromise by _not_ including any message in reply so that the issue of top/bottom posting will no longer exist. -- regards, GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 --~--~

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-20 Thread Spencer Collyer
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:36:31 -0400, Fuzzy Logic wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Tony Mechelynck > wrote: > > To the guy whose post is _nothing but_ a cursory, unfounded > > assertion that top-posting is better > > How about a founded assertion? I find that if I'm actively followin

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-20 Thread Fuzzy Logic
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Spencer Collyer wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:36:31 -0400, Fuzzy Logic wrote: >> >> How about a founded assertion? I find that if I'm actively following a >> thread, and the topic is not requiring a point-by-point reply, I get >> people's thoughts much quicker

RE: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-20 Thread Gene Kwiecinski
>Right. My point is that most people reading the thread will have >already read the previous messages. So, top-posting only slows down >the people who haven't, which taking less time for those who have. And simply skipping poorly-formatted posts saves the most time of all. Top-posting where I ha

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-21 Thread Fuzzy Logic
To each, their own, Gene. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Gene Kwiecinski wrote: > but me?, sorry, I'm just not going to be bothered, because I don't have the > time nor patience for it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_use" mailli

Re: changing what counts as a paragraph

2009-09-21 Thread Matthew Winn
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:30:11 -0400, Fuzzy Logic wrote: > Right. My point is that most people reading the thread will have > already read the previous messages. So, top-posting only slows down > the people who haven't, which taking less time for those who have. Untrue. Of the messages I've read