Mac SE floppy

2009-09-06 Thread Lee Tucker
Had another thrift store rescue. A dual floppy (800k) SE. Took it home, fired it up with an old disk. It booted right up, vertical need a little adjusting so I opened it up and there is a hard drive. Fixed the vertical. Turned it on and it booted up from the HD. It has some startup icons I¹m n

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-06 Thread RHOARCLASS
In a message dated 9/6/09 2:54:41 PM, ltuc...@hiwaay.net writes: >  A dual floppy (800k) SE. > Sell it to me...and I'll tell you all about itgiggle.. Jaber (Seattle) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Ma

RE: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-06 Thread WhyOSX
May be a very stupid, unnessecary and even offending question: Have you closed the r/w protection of the disks? Or did you try (unreadable) 1.44MB DOS disks on the two drives ? Close the other hole with adhesive tape - if it then askes for formatting, think of intensive cleaning, although they re

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-06 Thread Lee Tucker
There are no stupid questions - that's my motto. The disks are not write protected - actually the machine will give the standard your disk is locked message if you try to format one while locked. I used standard 400/800k disks. Tried the tape trick on a 1.44 disk. They just will not format. Tha

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-06 Thread Lee Tucker
While I appreciate the offer, it really looks good next to my single floppy SE, and wouldn¹t want to deprive them of each others company ;> On 9/6/09 5:49 PM, "rhoarcl...@aol.com" wrote: > > In a message dated 9/6/09 2:54:41 PM, ltuc...@hiwaay.net writes: > > >  A dual floppy (800k) SE. > >

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-06 Thread WhyOSX
Hi Lee ! That's a good motto - equal to mine. Since these drives are a few years old and mechanically not too robust, they may have reached their 'lifetime'. Good luck with the cleaning; try a vacuum cleaner first, so you may not have unscrew the whole thing. Lars > >There are no stupid question

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread chrisA
> >Thanks - I'll probably end up trying to clean them. There's an article on cleaning floppy drives here: http://chrislawson.net/writing/macdaniel/2k0314.shtml And a site about the SE here: http://ccadams.org/se/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread Lee Tucker
Thanks for the cleaning link. Doesn't look like I need it right now for this SE. Turns out the MicroMac INIT 2.2.1 related to the GemStart 16MHz Mercury from Total Systems is causing the problem (probably the init and the board itself). Turned off the INIT in the control panel, rebooted, and it f

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread chrisA
> Turns out the MicroMac INIT 2.2.1 related to the GemStart 16MHz Mercury from > Total Systems is causing the problem (probably the init and the board > itself). Turned off the INIT in the control panel, rebooted, and it formats > floppies in both drives just fine. There's a version 3 of the sof

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread WhyOSX
Sometimes with older Macs things I received things like this: http://retromaccast.ning.com/photo/floppy-drive-after-a-few-years If someone slaughters an older Mac, these are the left-overs, so they are usually very cheap (that means, the shipping costs are higher than what the item itself will cos

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread Lee Tucker
That's one dirty drive... Actually for a machine as old as this one it's in almost new shape. The case is not yellowed at all. And the interior is pretty much dust free. Must have come from a smoke free, UV free, dirt free clean room . On 9/7/09 5:45 PM, "WhyOSX" wrote: > > Sometimes wi

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Lee Tucker wrote: > From: Lee Tucker > Subject: Re: Mac SE floppy > To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 12:42 PM > > Thanks for the cleaning link. > Doesn't look like I need it right now for this SE. > Turn

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Lee Tucker wrote: > From: Lee Tucker > Subject: Re: Mac SE floppy > To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:20 PM > > That's one dirty drive... > > Actually for a machine as old as this one it's in almo

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-07 Thread WhyOSX
These will never yellow: http://retromaccast.ning.com/photo/black-brothers-5x00 I know that (un-understandably) they were sold overseas (Europe, Australia, NZ), but are quite rare in NAmerica - don't be too jealous. Lars > >That's one dirty drive... > >Actually for a machine as old as this one it

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-12 Thread Mac128DOTcom
tion, like a garage or basement "workshop". On Sep 7, 8:47 pm, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Lee Tucker wrote: > > > From: Lee Tucker > > Subject: Re: Mac SE floppy > > To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > > Date: Monday, Septe

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-12 Thread James Fraser
Hello, --- On Sat, 9/12/09, Mac128DOTcom wrote: >The Classic and Color Classic were different >machines which drew air indirectly from the the floppy drive, but >the SE more or less sucked most of its air right through the floppy, >which prompted Apple to offer optional plastic dust shields.

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-12 Thread Elliott Price
I think he just means that little black plastic flap that's in front of the drive, on all the non auto-inject drives. (That you push up out of the way with the floppy when you put it in) You probably have one you could look at that :) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-13 Thread Gregg Eshelman
ts in the Mac cases shaped however they thought looked stylin'. That would certainly have offended Steve Jobs' artistic sensibilities, had he been involved with Apple at the time. --- On Sat, 9/12/09, Mac128DOTcom wrote: > From: Mac128DOTcom > Subject: Re: Mac SE floppy > To: &qu

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-14 Thread Mac128DOTcom
Nope. I mean an actual plastic shield that slipped over and wrapped the entire disk drive inside the Mac only open in the front and bottom with a slit for the cable. Obviously this had to be custom fit for each Mac. I wish I had a link to a picture. I think my SE/30 has one, so perhaps I will crac

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-14 Thread James Fraser
Hello, --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Mac128DOTcom wrote: > Nope. I mean an actual plastic shield that slipped over and > wrapped the entire disk drive inside the Mac only open in the front > and bottom with a slit for the cable. Obviously this had to be custom > fit for each Mac. I wish I had a link to

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-15 Thread Mac128DOTcom
Yes, that yellow insert was designed only to protect the early heads in the 800K disk which did not park the heads safely on shut down. The 400K & 1.44MB drives did not need these. On Sep 14, 11:41 pm, James Fraser wrote: > Hello, > > --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Mac128DOTcom wrote: > > > Nope. I mean

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-15 Thread Christian Wacker
so from what I can tell, my Apple IIGS's floppy drive with the yellow insert (still have it) is an 800k drive then? On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Mac128DOTcom wrote: > > Yes, that yellow insert was designed only to protect the early heads > in the 800K disk which did not park the heads safely

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-15 Thread James Fraser
Hello, --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Christian Wacker wrote: > so from what I can tell, my Apple IIGS's floppy drive with > the yellow insert (still have it) is an 800k drive then? I was getting ready to ask something along the same lines. I could have *sworn* the external 800K Macintosh drive I used

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-16 Thread wove
On Sep 15, 11:09 pm, Christian Wacker wrote: > so from what I can tell, my Apple IIGS's floppy drive with the yellow > insert (still have it) is an 800k drive then? The Apple IIGS came out after Apple had switched to using 800k floppy drives in the Mac and was indeed an 800k drive. bill --~--~-

Re: Mac SE floppy

2009-09-16 Thread Mac128DOTcom
Exactly the 400K drive used a single read/write head. Whether it parked or not, the only thing below it was a felt pad for pressing against the bottom side of the SS disk (which is why you shouldn't use a SS disk as a DS after it's been formatted 400K). The 800K had two heads opposing each other a