Re: Benchmarks and Daystars

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the tests ran on my classic Mac stable had rather startling results. For example, the Daystar PowerCentral control panel seems to accelerate FPU performance on the IIci, even with no Daystar hardware installed. Apparently you had the

Re[2]: My Little LC

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
Mark I will look forward to that day. I just posted that screen shot on a whim. Apparently people get a kick out of it. Show us yours someday. Mines just a dumpy little LC I bought at the thrift sore. Funny thing is I love my little pizza box. :) Have you read my site (in my sig footer) yet?

IIci RAM and System 6.0.8

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
Does System 6 have a 4MB RAM ceiling or is there a way to allow it to use more? I have a IIci with 32MB of RAM and I see it being fairly pointless unless I can use all of it. Is Mode32 the answer? -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny

Re: Benchmarks and Daystars

2002-08-20 Thread Cameron Kaiser
For example, the Daystar PowerCentral control panel seems to accelerate FPU performance on the IIci, even with no Daystar hardware installed. Apparently you had the PowerMath switch on. That redirects any SANE math calls normally processed by the CPU to the FPU. It works even with an

Re: Syquest 200 jumpersettings.

2002-08-20 Thread Gamba
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco van de Voort) Does anybody still have docs laying around? Try here: http://www.driverzone.com/drivers/syquest/syquest.html Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: Info about apple pieces...where?

2002-08-20 Thread Gamba
MAX wrote: i have a card apple with this part number: 820-0809-a witch kind of card is? A google search reveals: Apple 28.8K Internal Comm Slot II faxmodem, Part #820-0809-A. For Macs with Comm Slot II internal port, including: * PowerMac 6500 series * PowerMac 6400 series * PowerMac/Performa

Re: Benchmarks and Daystars

2002-08-20 Thread Gamba
From: Cameron Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it seems strange that SANE wouldn't do that already on the IIci. Doesn't SANE use the FPU if present? I have a dim recollection of reading that it depends on which OS it is. You might add OS versions to your suite of tests. :-) Gamba

Re: IIci RAM and System 6.0.8

2002-08-20 Thread Gamba
Does System 6 have a 4MB RAM ceiling or is there a way to allow it to use more? I have a IIci with 32MB of RAM and I see it being fairly pointless unless I can use all of it. Is Mode32 the answer? Mark Benson System 6 has a ceiling of 8 MB. Mode32 won't work with System 6 but Optima32 will. But

Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
My Hi Spec. Macintosh IIci is finished. Boy is it ever sweet. Spec follows: 32MB RAM 33MHz Turbo '040 4MB Radius Thunder IV 1360 GX 500MB Hard Disk Here's that screenshot I promised everyone :) : http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/IIci.jpg I did say it'd be a bit big! Photoshop 3.0.4 was all

RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
On the topic of old NuBus graphics accelerators: My IIfx came with a RastorOps Paintboard Li card, and I was wondering if anyone here knew, well, anything about them.. info on the web is near non existent, I'm curious how much they cost originally, when they came out, how they rated against

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Desert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got 2 IIcx's with 80MB RAM... I paid almost $3,000 for some of those Thunder IV GX cards in various resolutions. The DSP acceleration is kick butt. The best is converting to CMYK, which is sped up by a huge factor. My IIci with the Turbo 601

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Terry Mathews
Umm... In 1990, you would've been happy to be able to run 24bit video at all. Video will probably be accelerated after installing the RasterOps control panel. And, as far as your IIfx not being a serious power machine, consider that it lived between 1990 and 1992, and that someone probably paid

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Terry Mathews
oh, don't get me wrong, I know exactly why the IIfx was called Wicked Fast... it's just the video card itself doesn't seem as accelerated as some other cards, though I'm sure it still cost thousands of dollars. Yeah, that's why I put in the part about installing the control panel. Try

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
Yeah, that's why I put in the part about installing the control panel. Try getting the driver from here: http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/video/knighttech/ thanks, i'll give it a go. Ben. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: Benchmarks and Daystars

2002-08-20 Thread Cameron Kaiser
but it seems strange that SANE wouldn't do that already on the IIci. Doesn't SANE use the FPU if present? I have a dim recollection of reading that it depends on which OS it is. You might add OS versions to your suite of tests. :-) I did find OS differences, yes -- the SE/30's FPU score

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
Your IIci is tricked out! I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit unreal. A IIci with 32 mb ram, a 500 mb hd and 33 mhz 68040 is definetely not tricked out. It can contain 4 times as much ram, a much and much larger hard disk and there are faster upgrades (ppc 601) available. How is the

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
--- Desert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got 2 IIcx's with 80MB RAM... I paid almost $3,000 for some of those Thunder IV GX cards in various resolutions. The DSP acceleration is kick butt. The best is converting to CMYK, which is sped up by a huge factor. My IIci with the Turbo

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
I can't speak for others, but I'm tired of being on the treadmill where I'm constantly upgrading to the latest hardware. My IIfx will be used for Internet browsing, email and other low-end activities. I'm sure it will work just fine for those purposes. That's my personal revolt against the

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
32mb ram and 7.6.1 on the IIfx should hopefully allow internet browsing. If not, I'll buy a Quadra 950. my Weed Whacker does Nutscrape 3 with 20Mb and 7.6.1 quite well no slower than my 8500 and 9600 doing IE 5.1... or the SE/30 doing MacWeb! Mmmm, 1bit dither. Ben. -- Vintage

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
Marten Good points you raised! 32mb ram and 7.6.1 on the IIfx should hopefully allow internet browsing. It will allow Internet browsing. No doubt about that. iCab will do pretty well. If not, I'll buy a Quadra 950. I myself am working at home on a Quadra 840av, while my 'state of the art

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
The Atto is still unused, but should boost disk performance Hmmm the one thing I can't afford is a SEIV (try not to kill this one!) and a UW-SCSI drive. I have a pair of 9GB Cheetahs (overkill I know but they are scheduled to move into my OS X machine, when I get a job and buy on,

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
A 'tricked out' machine doesn't have to be done up to max. possible sped, that'd be 'maxed out'. It is significantly faster, graphically beautiful (well as beautiful as 7.1 default graphics could be :) ) and runs the same res. as my 7500/200. I found Photoshop 3.0.4 surprisingly fast, don't

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
The word 'out' suggests that there is no room for improvement... Not really :). 'Tricked Out' is the US English equivalent of 'Decked Out' which means 'jazzed up' or enhanced. BTW being used as an isdn router for the last 5 years isn't so bad... That means that it was able to be usefull for

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
I hope that during its fourth life in a student's room it will be used to create great photographic artwork that will astonish the galleries in Paris, Milan and New York. Nah - it is added to my library of 'Power 68ks', along with my stacked 840av as examples of just how powerful Macs of over

High priced videocards. Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
What I have a hard time figuring out is why video card companies love to charge around $5,000 for the latest and greatest thing? From the earliest 24bit cards for Mac and PC right to the present day where they can make the same AGP or PCI hardware for both, the prices have stayed about the same.

IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used a IIfx myself for quite a while. It is an oke machine. BTW Internet browsing is not exactly a lowend activity, not for computers of this vintage. They are actually a bit to slow to do it properly and some content is out of

Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
How about a head to head internet performance comparo? 386DX/40 VS IIfx. Give them both the same amount of RAM (ISTR some DX/40 boards with 72pin SIMM slots) and contomperary era accelerated video cards. :) Using the same external modem would eliminate that as a difference and they could even

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit unreal. A IIci with 32 mb ram, a 500 mb hd and 33 mhz 68040 is definetely not tricked out. It can contain 4 times as much ram, a much and much larger hard disk and there are faster upgrades (ppc 601) available. I stuck 128MB in my NetBSD IIci and it

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
I hope that during its fourth life in a student's room it will be used to create great photographic artwork that will astonish the galleries in Paris, Milan and New York. Nah - it is added to my library of 'Power 68ks', along with my stacked 840av as examples of just how powerful Macs of

Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a head to head internet performance comparo? 386DX/40 VS IIfx. clip Don't forget to give the 386 a 40 mhz bus speed mobo otherwise it wouldn't be fair :-) Marten That's what the 386DX/40 is. Full 32bit CPU on a 40Mhz bus. :)

Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Ken Scott
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used a IIfx myself for quite a while. It is an oke machine. BTW Internet browsing is not exactly a lowend activity, not for computers of this vintage. They are actually a bit

IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Ken Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how serious you are about this, but I'm pretty sure that I have a 386/40 PC board in my basement (I only wish I threw out the old junk... I also just got a IIfx, but don't know what it has in it, other than a sticker on the outside

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Ken Scott
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Ken Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how serious you are about this, but I'm pretty sure that I have a 386/40 PC board in my basement (I only wish I threw out the old junk... I also just got a IIfx, but don't know what

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Bill Zipprich
Remember guys, the IIfx had IOP's! This was an advanced feature. Similar to IBM mainframes with channel processors for I/O. I don't know if PC's ever had that kind of advanced hardware. Bill Zipprich home: 303-922-5293 cell: 206-604-0844 -Original Message- From: Vintage Macs

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember guys, the IIfx had IOP's! This was an advanced feature. Similar to IBM mainframes with channel processors for I/O. I don't know if PC's ever had that kind of advanced hardware. 16550N UARTS, that ought to at least equal the IIfx

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Bill Zipprich
The IIfx IOP's would certainly benefit the Internet experience as you use the mouse to navigate. Also consider that the cursor (hardware cursor) is controlled via the IOP's as well. Bill - Original Message - From: Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Bill Zipprich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The IIfx IOP's would certainly benefit the Internet experience as you use the mouse to navigate. Also consider that the cursor (hardware cursor) is controlled via the IOP's as well. Well, I suppose he can start by just assembling whatever he