OT: A G6? Re: vintage quality

--- Steve Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -> I know Mac users who drool over each new speed > bump of the Mac CPU. I > know people who, despite the G5 being released > recently, are wanting either > a speed bumped G5 (an increase in MHz) or the G6 to > be released haste post haste. Heh! There

Re: vintage quality

system 7.6.1 is flawless, and easy to maintain. Like you say, Norton of that era does a great job of keeping it up and running like a charm (and an occasional desktop rebuilding). That is exactly my problem. I don't find it normal that one needs to keep an OS a float with Norton. IN my office I h

Re: vintage quality

On 8/24/03 6:13 PM, "Steve Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -> Funny, I ran 7.5 and had no major issues. Most of my Macs have 7.5.5 on > them (the 5260/100 has 7.5.1 while the compacts have various OSes) and I > rarely encounter issues I cannot deal with (ie they require a reboot and > then se

Re: vintage quality

Jeff wrote: >It wasn't until the Mac decided to use more PC-oriented components that it's >been REALLY problematic. -> I was not a happy man when Apple went with IDE over SCSI as it limited the machine. Plus I never did get that whole Master/Slave thingie. >I own a bunch of old Macs. -> I do to

Re: vintage quality

>The word 'performa' alone makes me sick. -> I laughed at this as my first Mac was a Performa 405. Aside from the RAM limit (which I learned to deal with), it ran and still runs perfectly. I also have a Performa 450 (LC III) that I plan to get up and running. >I remember tolerating the constant c

Re: vintage quality

>on 03/8/19 3:27 AM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> And these newer macs..Well? :( -> While I applaud Apple in their development & marketing of newer Macs, I can't help but think that the average consumer doesn't need all the bells and whistles they include with each machine.

Re: eXodus? Re: vintage quality

Terry Mathews wrote: Kinda but not really. X is the standard client-server arch with the exception that it does everything backwards. There are other methods of establishing an X session, but they go way beyond the scope of this mailing list. :) Thank you Terry. I'd have trouble explaining it.

Re: vintage quality

Of course it reeks of flipping Linux, it was ported to OSX. Like many things adopted by OSX, they're just ported from somewhere else. I may be wrong and you dont need X11 to run OpenOffice but I doubt it. I have once run OpenOffice just to have a peek. I needed X11 to do so. I can't find my way

Re: eXodus? Re: vintage quality

Kinda but not really. X is the standard client-server arch with the exception that it does everything backwards. In X, the server is the display. It runs on the local PC and manages the workspace. Keeps track of the keyboard and mouse and keeps the framebuffer (video card) up to date. The client

eXodus? Re: vintage quality

--- Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It works using eXodus, requiring 8mb of mac memory > and OS7.x or above, > the program, soffice in this case, opens in a window > on the mac desktop > like a normal mac app. So eXodus is a Mac X window client for X running on a unix/linux box? Sorta like

Re: vintage quality

Marten van de Kraats wrote: Ah. OpenOffice. But that reeks of linux. Or what? Linux might run pretty well on those machines, contrary to the Mac OS. No Marten, MacOS 7.1 and 9.1. Wont work on sys6 for obvious reasons. Of course it reeks of flipping Linux, it was ported to OSX. Like many things

Re: vintage quality

J.S. Garrison wrote: Fascinating. All, newer integrated machines have components installed and tuned at the factory to work in the system. If you see the listname, you'll glean I'm talking same-era machines. I'm a semi-non-profit. I resurrect both Vintage Macs and Vintage PC's. My line of e

Re: vintage quality

yeah, fix it! Phil Marlow wrote: Someone on here has their clock set to August 2004 and it's screwing up my inbox! -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at

Re: vintage quality

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Re: vintage quality

> And to keep things on topic, I STILL run back to my accelerated IIci and > Quadra 700 for that 68k feeling. I must be a 68k elitist since my 68k collection consists of a IIfx, 840av, and a 950/AWS. He he he. An accelerated IIci can be faster than a 840 av. One of those turbo 040 cards for the

Re: vintage quality-OpenOffice?

How did you get OpenOffice running on those boxes? I thought there was only an OS X version? I'd love to have OpenOffice on som eof my older hardware. Peace, Todd On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 10:15 AM, Sque wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:40 am, Powermac wrote: I find my 7500 and 8500 to

Re: vintage quality

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregg Eshelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've found my Turbo 601 upgraded IIci to be a much less "twitchy" computer than my Radius 81/110, which itself is far less troublesome than my 7300/200. Whoa!?! I had a Turbo601 for a few years (I wrote the arti

Re: vintage quality

- Original Message - From: "J.S. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: Re: vintage quality > I'm agreeing with this poster, here. I've had a Performa 6400, 6

Re: vintage quality

>To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: vintage quality >Date: Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:53 PM > >I'm agreeing with this poster, here. I've had a Performa 6400, 6500; 6100's, >7100, 7300 I'm now using, 8500 they've been wonderfu

Re: vintage quality

on 8/20/03 6:40 AM, Powermac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Marten van de Kraats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:10 AM > Subject: Re: vi

Re: vintage quality

OpenOffice1.10 runs well so far on both the quad and the 7300, might have to ask Gregg about this source for apple 10/100 nics though. Well the bits I've tried have so far. :) Ah. OpenOffice. But that reeks of linux. Or what? Linux might run pretty well on those machines, contrary to the Mac OS.

Re: vintage quality

on 8/19/03 4:53 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Stick with macs boys, they're made for you. > I've got one sound card that needs enteries like Jeff has described only > to run on win3.11 or dos. > Fascinating. All, newer integrated machines have components installed and tuned at the

Re: vintage quality

awful RAM that you cant find anywhere. I have a Performa 450 and 638 which both perform much better than the PPC's with the SAME OS. So... I wholeheartedly agree with vintage quality - Hooray for 68k and boo to early PowerPC! I do however love the performance of my G3 and G4 iMacs - they

Re: vintage quality

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:40 am, Powermac wrote: > > I find my 7500 and 8500 to be reliable, that would be in the generation you > consider problematic. Not what you have but the way you use it. :) It's a mighty big slice of the apple to class as lemons. OpenOffice1.10 runs well so far on both the

Re: vintage quality

- Original Message - From: "Marten van de Kraats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: Re: vintage quality > > The 7300 belongs to the generation of mac products I avoid. A &g

Re: vintage quality

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:10 pm, Marten van de Kraats replied > >Gregg Eshelman wrote: > >I've found my Turbo 601 upgraded IIci to be a much > >less "twitchy" computer than my Radius 81/110, > >which itself is far less troublesome than my 7300/200. > > > >Every time I do _anything_ to the 7300 I find

Re: vintage quality

I've found my Turbo 601 upgraded IIci to be a much less "twitchy" computer than my Radius 81/110, which itself is far less troublesome than my 7300/200. Every time I do _anything_ to the 7300 I find myself having to do a clean OS reinstall. Had it going good then dropped in a USB 1.1 card and roa

Re: vintage quality

--- Marten van de Kraats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use 68k macs because I just feel more at home with > them. I am used > to them. They same simple to troubleshoot, are > dependable, I've found my Turbo 601 upgraded IIci to be a much less "twitchy" computer than my Radius 81/110, which itse

Re: vintage quality

John Niven wrote: I also have used eXodus to login to work UNIX boxes, but my version (7.0) says it needs OS 7.1.2 as a minimum. Do you know if there are any versions that work with OS 6 (which I'm trying to work back to now I have an OSX PowerBook). I doubt it, I'll have a look around for you.

Re: vintage quality

Marten van de Kraats wrote: J.S. Garrison wrote: It wasn't until the Mac decided to use more PC-oriented components that it's been REALLY problematic. I did not write that, Darren, and I don't agree with it either. Poor editing, sorry Marten. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by

Re: vintage quality

Marten van de Kraats wrote: It wasn't until the Mac decided to use more PC-oriented components that it's been REALLY problematic. I did not write that, Darren, and I don't agree with it either. Marten -- Vintage Macs list nanny -- Check ou

Re: vintage quality

Marten van de Kraats wrote: I own a bunch of old Macs. I have a 7300 here I'm emailing on. And I do lotsa things with it. Things I wouldn't on a PC. Because I hate the hassle of parallel ports, serial port doo doo with certain peripherals, USB that doesn't work right. The BIOS. Yeaaghh. IRQ sett

Re: vintage quality

Marten van de Kraats wrote: One of the best things about the vintage and quadra macs is the fact they are still very useful, as OSX becomes more mature software is slowly drying up for the classic OS, I spend much more time in the internet archieve than I do on real sites now which I think is a

Re: vintage quality

On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 09:18 AM, Darren wrote: I'm often surprised at what I can also do on my 68k machines, I've found eXodus to be a wonderful example of this at speeds very close to the G3. This opens another door for me to use my mac that make me very happy. I also have used eXodu

Re: vintage quality

Thank you for your thoughts gentlemen. I wouldn't pass up a G5 either. 4gb of ram :) I'm very aware of what can and cant be done on a 604 powermac and what you gain from a processor upgrade and a couple of cards. I'm often surprised at what I can also do on my 68k machines, I've found eXodus t

Re: vintage quality

It wasn't until the Mac decided to use more PC-oriented components that it's been REALLY problematic. There is nothing problematic about today's Macs. How much experience do you have with imacs, g3's, g4's, ibooks? Using pc-oriented components like ide and pci is not a bad thing, it is cheaper

Re: vintage quality

on 8/18/03 11:27 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > J.S. Garrison wrote: > >> on 8/18/03 1:39 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Really remarkable Very surprising was also that IIci wasn't that >>> much slower than the iMac in recognizing the text. >> >>

Re: vintage quality

Those older Macs..Satisfying, less filling and only HALF the calories. And these newer macs..Well? :( These newer macs? The Macs Apple produced since the first G3 (late 1997) have been pretty good. Much better than the average computer anyway. They are only a bit expensive. Ev

Re: vintage quality

One of the best things about the vintage and quadra macs is the fact they are still very useful, as OSX becomes more mature software is slowly drying up for the classic OS, I spend much more time in the internet archieve than I do on real sites now which I think is a real shame, the fact the ar

Re: vintage quality

-- >From: "A.Tuazon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: vintage quality >Date: Tue, Aug 19, 2003, 6:17 AM > > >The majority of people (PCer's especially) get caught up in the hype about &

Re: vintage quality

A.Tuazon wrote: on 03/8/19 3:27 AM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And these newer macs..Well? :( Depends on what you would consider new. My B&W G3 is considered a dinosaur nowadays, but I still do a hell of a lot of stuff on it. We have these new computers running in the G

Re: vintage quality

on 03/8/19 3:27 AM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And these newer macs..Well? :( Depends on what you would consider new. My B&W G3 is considered a dinosaur nowadays, but I still do a hell of a lot of stuff on it. We have these new computers running in the GHz with 64 bit pr

Re: vintage quality

I have vintage macs as email servers, dns, and incoming fax machines. And they do it every bit as well as a G5 could, if not better. Now, the fact that I paid over $9,000 for my IIfx when it was brand new is another story... You still use a machine that you bought 14 years ago? cool! Marten -- Vin

Re: vintage quality

J.S. Garrison wrote: on 8/18/03 1:39 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really remarkable Very surprising was also that IIci wasn't that much slower than the iMac in recognizing the text. Ahhh. Those older Macs..Satisfying, less filling and only HALF the calories

Re: vintage quality

on 8/18/03 1:39 PM, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't use OCR programs often, but today I needed to OCR three pages. > I used the imac 400 Mhz and the agfa snapscan I have at work. The OCR > program I used was Omnipage pro 8.0. > The result was a mess. A total mess. The te

Re: vintage quality

on 8/18/03 15:39, Marten van de Kraats at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: > I don't use OCR programs often, but today I needed to OCR three pages. > I used the imac 400 Mhz and the agfa snapscan I have at work. The OCR > program I used was Omnipage pro 8.0. > The result was a mess. A total mess. The

Re: vintage quality

My Reply follows quote. On 18/08/2003 14:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I don't use OCR programs often, but today I needed to OCR three pages. >I used the imac 400 Mhz and the agfa snapscan I have at work. The OCR >program I used was Omnipage pro 8.0. >The result was a mess. A total mess. The tex

vintage quality

I don't use OCR programs often, but today I needed to OCR three pages. I used the imac 400 Mhz and the agfa snapscan I have at work. The OCR program I used was Omnipage pro 8.0. The result was a mess. A total mess. The text files omnipage pro 8.0 produced were totally worthless. I wondered what t