Hello Reggie,
You made a good point regarding putting 2 empty lines before you even start
typing in Fleksy. I just tried this and verified that it will indeed cause
the subject field to be empty. Turning off the "Include subject in body"
will avoid having the subject line repeat in the message bod
I'm personally disappointed there is no NFC, and because of that may wait.
NFC would have had me in line to buy one when the stores opened.
Other than that I think they did what they needed to do.
Jonathan
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Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone a
certain group of people (and I don't necessarily mean just people on this
list) complain and say it's disappointing etc. When the 4S came out it was
the same, a lot of people were disappointed it wasn't called the iPhone 5 as
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Keep in mind guys, that Apple doesn't really need to re-invent the wheel,
because they have, in a sense already invented the wheel. At this point,
they're just improving upon something that is already wildly popular and a
downright joy to use.
Allison
On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Keith Watson w
I would second the recommendation of the app Alarmed. I can't say enough good
things about it. It is free and the free features will cover heaps of things. I
paid to upgrade just to support the developer of this app.
Garth
www.iblindtech.com/
Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite
Now that's something I wasn't aware of and in my opinion sounds like a
stupid thing to do. Is that just a method of holding something back to
make you come back and buy the next one done properly?
On 9/13/12, Daniel Miller wrote:
> The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ.
>
The A6 isn't quad-core, it's only dual-core, running at 1.2GHZ.
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming
My question
Hi,
While I agree that AT&T is really racking up the rip customers off
opportunities to a point that is becoming unbelievable (money grap), I
wish your statement about the price of the unlocked were true, but my
understanding is that it is not. Have you looked at apple.com? They
list the price of t
Just cannot figure this out. TIA.
Christine
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My question would be, what did you want it to include that it did not?
To some of us it is worth it to have LTE support verses not with the
old models. Sounds like the case will be nicer as you said. I can't
really say I get the point people are trying to make about it being
underwhelming and not r
I did a quick google search for "type2phone podcast" and found this:
http://www.pocketsizedpodcast.com/tag/type2phone/
HTH,
Richard
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Hi all,
can someone tell me where I can find a podcast on type 2 phone? i thought David
Woodbridge did one some time ago.
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Maybe you're right. Remember though that your performance is only as good as
your wireless network and/or your cell service. Anyway, I don't mean for the
thread to balloon into a negative rant. I was just offering some views from
a consumer's viewpoint.
Joe
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Joe,
It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. A6 quad core processor and a gig of ram
is sexy enough for me to trade in my 4s for the 5.
Keith
On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 PM, "Joe" wrote:
> Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an
> Apple hater. I have the 4S like
Evening list members can anyone on the list tell me if alarm clock pro is
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Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I'm not an
Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a
Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The
hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form
Also, the App store using the Mac for updates seems to be down. Though
starting this afternoon series seems to be responding very quickly and
snappy.
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Sent: Thursday, September 13,
HI all,
I just wanted to pass along a quick note to let y'all know that LookTel is
looking for users of iDevices who are low-vision, whom would be interested in
doing a brief interview about your experiences with iOS.
If you would like to help out, then please go ahead and fill out the short fo
Hi.
I use My me.com address all the time as you will see from my e-mail address.
Yesterday, I literally had no e-mail for over 12 hours as the service for me
went down the day before yesterday and didn't come back until almost ten in the
evening.
Kawal.
On 13 Sep 2012, at 10:31 PM, Rick Alfa
Grant is correct; I hadn't paid enough attention to the ops message.
If you're on 5.1.1 then there isn't an official unlock.
On 9/13/12, Grant Hardy wrote:
> If you have an iPhone 4 with the latest baseband there's absolutely
> nothing you can do to unlock it unless your carrier will do it for yo
I'm very interested in getting a report from anyone regarding the new
speaker and 3 microphone configuration especially compared to the 4s. I
think the 4s sounds really good for a cell phone so I'm anxious to know
whether the iPhone 5 is better or worse.
Best,
Rick
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Yes, I think their servers are bogging down somewhat. Both iMessage and
email via my me.com address are super slow right now.
Rick
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:09 A
or $1.99.
>>>> The
>>>> developer and the full app name is below. Enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> Epicurious Recipes & Shopping List
>>>> Condé Nast Digital
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Eileen
>>>>
>>>
If you have an iPhone 4 with the latest baseband there's absolutely
nothing you can do to unlock it unless your carrier will do it for you
officially. There's no unofficial unlock available.
Grant
On 9/13/12, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
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> I want to maximize prize when selling old phone so would
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Unlocking would increase the value, but jailbreaking would not add any value.
Your carrier should unlock the phone (provide instructions) once your phone is
out of contract and upon request.
On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If anything, in your situation, I think
I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for or not, but several
network enabled home theater receivers have corresponding apps that let
you control them. I've downloaded and played with apps for Yamaha,
Pioneer, Denon and Onkyo. There are also network enabled thermostats
that do the same thing.
Hi,.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet, is that the 4 inch screen does require
more stretching when using the phone one handed. This was the first thing I
noticed when playing with an android phone. It was difficult to reach buttons
at the top of the screen with by thumb and I don't have
Yes, people in the US can walk into an Apple store and purchased an
unlocked and unbranded cell phone, although all iPhones are pretty much
unbranded. In the US though, we get some pretty deep discounts on phone
prices if you lock yourself into a 2 year contract with a cell phone
provider.
On 13/0
I will have to wait until next year in order to look into an upgrade.
But what I might do is consider purchasing the new iPod Touch, so I can
check out Siri, turn by turn navigation, everything that could be done
on the iPhone 5 without the phone. For now I will upgrade to iOS 6 on my
iPhone 4.
The related question might be if Speeddots have a template prepared too.
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To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: IPhone 5 cases
Hi,
I did see Otterbox accepting pre-orders for IPhone 5 cases from their lines
to be shipped on
Thanks.
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:29 PM
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Subject: RE: Summary from today's event
Hi,
These are two 3G standards used to access cell towers. GS
Hi,
These are two 3G standards used to access cell towers. GSM uses SIM cards
for user identification, whereas CDMA uses a different card for
identification. At least in united States, AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM
carriers and Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Hello,
The answer to your questions 1 and 2 is yes. Question 3 depends on the
complexities that we do not understand. That said, Apple continues
demonstrating a strong commitment to accessibility.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iP
Can someone remind me who is GSM, and who is CDMA?
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Summary from today's event
Wow ok might look into
I got a bunch of free ring tones on my phone (when I get home I can send you
the link to the site I got them from if you want.) I just use one of the
free ring tones for my alarm. I'm not interested in doing a whole song. I
know that's what you want, but a ring tone might at least help.
Sandy F
Normally I do exactly as you suggest, but in a hurry I have favorites
(including this list) in Fleksy that I want to send to straight from Fleksy.
Think Sieghard has me on the straight and narrow, though, and the folks at
Fleksy were also wonderful. Answer was had in about 15 minutes, though it
wa
Wow ok might look into it thanks for letting me know chat soon Chris.
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On 13/09/2012 17:49, Ricardo Walker wrote:
I would assume its better. They have indeed upgraded the internal speakers.
Adding 5 magnets.
Ricardo Walker
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Sieghard:
So, if I turn the setting off and when I type in Fleksy and start by putting
2 lines before I start typing, this first line for subject and first line of
email will disappear and I can name the subject anything I wish? Thank you
fountain of ideas! (smiles) Now if you could just tell me ho
When you tap on their name and hold also swipe to the right.
So tap twice quickly and on the second tap hold for a second and then swipe
right.
May and Prince Noah
Personal Playground
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On 2012-09-13, at 3:05 PM, "sabrina Giles" wrote:
> Hi list,
> A fe
I have been wondering the same thing, and apple didn't mention it either.
You would think since they put the effort in accessibility, that would
reasonably think of this feature. I am not getting rid of navigon yet.
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To:
Sent: Thursday, Septe
Yes, I think subway and pedestrian modes are still not supported. I believe
I read that in a live blog at the time it was being introduced. I'm sure
Gizmodo or CNet or one of those sites will have the pertinent information.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@
Absolutely, I am trying to get one and move up from the 4. Don't want to use
my upgrade since I am on VZW though.
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From: "Ricardo Walker"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Will 5's new features be good for accessibility?
Oh!
Definitely.
Hi,
I can't confirm this since I'm not a developer but, , I remember reading an
article when IOS 6 beta was just released that, a pedestrian mode was not apart
of the new navigation app. I don't know if this was indeed the case then and,
will be the case when IOS 6 is released but, its somethi
It's just called Facebook and yes it is accessible.
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On 14/09/2012 18:17, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
Tell me it's name please? And is it accessible?
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Oh!
Definitely. I can't speak for anyone but myself but, such an improvement alone
couldn't justify me buying a iPhone 5 at full retail. But for those eligible
for an upgrade, or have some other means of getting the 5 for a decent price,
it might be worth it.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletoth
I am sure that in a few months, apple will have licensed that hardware
patents and we will see cheaper adapters.
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From: "Marc Rocheleau"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Just
Hello Sabrina:
First, its always helpful to have a recent message from the person you'd
like to block. Then, goto setting and set your privacy settings to medium.
Go back to the main screen, and click on "Friend or block User" and choose
to "Block". That should do it for you. As far as moving them
I do agree with that. I still think for some who have a 4S though, it's not
that big of a boost to warrant the out of contract price it would cost. Just
my opinion, some will pay just because they want the newest device.
- Original Message -
From: "Ricardo Walker"
To:
Sent: Thursday,
I recall reading yesterday from the page on the Apple site that said
what was in the box, that the smaller connector and an adapter will
both be included with new iPhone 5's. I usually buy two chargers so I
will probably get two adapters since I've got a couple of docks at
home.
It makes sense tha
Hey Jonathan.
I remember you were dead against the I phone. Times have changed for you to
praise it! I still remember your song although I don't know where it is.
Kawal.
On 13 Sep 2012, at 13:35, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> Much Faster performance, better camera which may make taking pictures m
Everyone has pointed out a lot of reasons for upgrading. I would like to
point out though that the turn-by-turn directions feature of the new maps
will only work on the 4S and the 5
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Can't the US folks get their I phone 5 or any I phone unlocked and unbranded?
I just got my new Nano sim card today. I went into the store which is the
store that my mobile provider has and told them the situation about getting the
unlocked I phone 5 from the Apple store and they just swapped
Hi Sandy,
Actually no, you can't do it under the clock, but there's a free app called
"alarmed", and it's by yoctoville. It works great, I use it most days, and you
can set repeating alarms, it also has the ability to function as a sleep timer
if you want to go to sleep to music.
Hope this helps
One item I also have not seen mentioned which will also be available on the 4S
is the turn-by-turn maps. I guess I may be able to clear out my navigation
folder, or maybe not.
Fred Olver
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday,
Hi,
If anything, in your situation, I think jailbreaking and unlocking
would decrease the value of the phone - I know I would pay less for
it. The solution for your device would mean that the new owner would
*never* be able to do a normal restore even if they wanted to loos the
unlock & jb; it jus
I believe that Sieghard is correct. As long as the carriers and other stores
like Bestbuy has the larger storage models available, they will be sold,
probably at a significant discount. The same happened last after the 4S was
released. Bestbuy had a huge discount in December.
- Original Mes
Hi list,
A few days ago I posted a question on how to block someone on HeyTell. So
far I've been unsuccessful even when I double tap and hold after going to
the person's name.
I'm thinking that the new HeyTell update must have made this harder to do.
Anyone have any other suggestions?
Thanks,
I don't think so, or if you can I can't see how to do it. The only
sounds available to me under the alarm are the very limited number of
sounds that came on the phone. I don't see any way to point to a song
in my music library.
K
On 9/13/12, Sandy Finley wrote:
> Can you do that with the alarm u
I'm not sure jail breaking will increase the price you can get for your
phone. Warranty may not be an issue, but jail breaking will void your
warranty and you won't be able to get support from Apple or your
carrier. I think it will depend on whether the person who wants to
purchase your phone wants
I don't want to go to the 5 but when he is eligible, my husband will
probably want to because of the larger screen and the retina display. He
says no right now but, he should be eligible in January but then he has my
old 4.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viph
Can you do that with the alarm under the clock app that comes with your
phone? I use that app to have a ring tone of a song I like waking me up.
Sandy
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@g
In my experience, the gift cards are tied to a specific store. So you have
to actually be very careful about this when buying gifts for someone
overseas.
Jonathan
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Of Søren Jensen
Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012
Hi,
I did see Otterbox accepting pre-orders for IPhone 5 cases from their lines to
be shipped on the 21st which started yesterday afternoon within minutes of the
end of the Apple event. You might want to consult their site for more
information.
Robin
From: Robert Fenton
Sent: Thursday, Septe
Hi,
I want to maximize prize when selling old phone so would like to jail brake and
unlock. I assume there is an unteathered jb for latest ios 5?
Any help is appreciated. By the way I use a Mac.
Best,
Ioana
Typed with Fleksy
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ve it is free minus the recipe box sync for $1.99.
>>>> The
>>>> developer and the full app name is below. Enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> Epicurious Recipes & Shopping List
>>>> Condé Nast Digital
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>&g
Hello:
Has anybody heard of Otterbox or another manufacturer will be producing cases
for the new iPhones? I haven't seen anything about these sorts of accessories
yet anywhere. Thank you.
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Is there an alarm app that will allow me to wake up to the music of my
choice? In other words, I want to choose a song that's on my phone and
have that song play as my alarm sound.
Is this doable?
Thanks,
Kimber
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I'm not sure it's true to say that no one was asking for a thinner
phone. Android hand sets advertise their thinness, so I assume Apple was
reacting to that competition.
On 13/09/12 12:35, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> It's 8 signal Pins + 1 ground, 9 in total. As far as Apple doing thin
Hi Mark,
It's 8 signal Pins + 1 ground, 9 in total. As far as Apple doing things
their way, that has always been their way, they never ask and Steve Jobbs
actually stated specifically that he doesn't put together user groups or
does surveys to find out what people want since people don't know what
sit
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Have you not been on the internet or list at all since yesterday? lol
Unlocked iPhone 5 comes out September 21 -- a week from tomorrow... at
least in the U.S.A. and Canada. If you're somewhere else, I suggest
googling "iPhone 5 (insert country here) release date"
HTH!
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On 9/13/12, jack w
Like printing money.
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Subject: Re: A few new iPhone 5 features which have not been mentioned much
Just to
Hi ahh:
I'm looking for an accessible program to control my tv reciever and my air
condition with my I phone, is it possible?
I need suggestions please
Thanks in advance.
Cheers:
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Just to add some more info about the new connector (I thought it was
eight pin, not nine... although the point is the same really.)
Apparently they made it smaller because they couldn't continue making
products thinner with a 30 pin connection slot taking up valuable
hardware space. Supposedly it'l
Tell me it's name please? And is it accessible?
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Has anyone seen any information on when the unlocked iphone 5 will be
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I believe it was later confirmed that Apple's going to sell the dock
connector adaptor for $29.95.
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A few new iPhone 5
Hi,
I'm pretty sure the prices will be the sam e as the iPhone 4S was at its
launch. Apple hasn't deviated from iPhone pricing very much over the years.
Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Paul Ferrara wrote:
Hello List,
I don't think I came across many posts who mention a few additional iPhone 5
changes/improvements. First, the iPhone 5 has a new 9 PIN connector. This
means if you have a music dock or even the Apple iPhone dock and iPhone
cables you will not be able to use any of them with a new iP
Hi,
You forgot to mention the updated imaging processor, and better low light
capabilities. I think both might help better a blind persons use of OCR.
hth
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On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
Simply put,
To lower the price of the 4S. They will turn the 4S into their mid entry
handset. They couldn't, or I should say wouldn't meet that price point with
that amount of flash storage.
Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 13,
I would assume its better. They have indeed upgraded the internal speakers.
Adding 5 magnets.
Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Chris wrote:
> Hello all is the audio any better on the new iPod Touch if so I
Is that the only difference?
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocked iphone 5
A Verizon phone bought on contract will work only on Verizon
I would assume it is better than the fourth generation iPod since Apple
specifically mentioned an improved speaker design for the iPhone and I
assume the iPod Touch will get the same or at least a similar speaker since
it has been upgraded to the larger screen size.
Regards,
Sieghard
-Orig
A Verizon phone bought on contract will work only on Verizon's network. An
unlocked phone bought at full price from Apple can be activated on any
carrier and you could, for example, take out the SIM card if you travel to
somewhere in Europe or Asia, get a SIM card over there from a prepaid
provider
Hello all is the audio any better on the new iPod Touch if so I might
look into that rather than an iPad thanks chat soon Chris.
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On 12/09/2012 23:37, Moop Curran wrote:
Hi,
What's earpod? Also, will the ipod touch 5 only be available in 16 gb,
if so it's kind of a
Hi John,
I am not quite sure what your "I don't think you are correct on that."
Refers to. If it refers to Wendy asking whether the 4S 32 Gb will be
discontinued then that is correct. I assume there may be some 4S 32 Gb and
even 64 Gb models available until stock runs out, but once it does the onl
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Hi Paul and Jack,
I know that when the iPhone 4S was released that in the States it took a few
weeks before you could buy it unlocked at full price from Apple. Here in
Canada and I think this is true for Australia and some European countries it
is possible to preorder the iPhone right away as an u
I don't think you are correct on that.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wendy Alling
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Summary from today's event
Hello,
Did I read it right
Hi Ricardo, Damashe and others,
I think Damashe is more or less correct in that the 4s and 5 camera specs
are mostly the same. It seems the main difference in hardware is the
Sapphire lens cover and some sort of better low light performance. They also
mention "precision alignment of the lenses" to
I wonder why they would discontinue that phone? I currently have a 16 gb
iPhone 4 and that was why I wanted to upgrade to the 32 gb 4S. Looks like
I'll be upgrading to the 5 afterall.
Wendy
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When do we find out price otherwise?
Paul
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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unlocked iphone 5
That price is only for new contracts as I understand it.
(Sent from Richard's iPhone)
On Sep 13
Why not use the official Facebook app.
Sent from my Windows laptop.
On 14/09/2012 13:12, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
Hi all:
I'm using the voicebook vo, but it can not suits my needs, I can't find
many many things, can't we find better program, or will it be updated?
Thanks in advance
Cheers:
Ra
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