Hi all,
I've noticed a few oddities with the latest version of iTunes. My
screen reader is JAWS 14, and I have an iPhone 5. Any input on any of
the following would be greatly appreciated.
1) I cannot sync only selected audiobooks to my phone - it's either
all or nothing. If I choose selected, no
I am glad i haven't upgraded my itunes yet on my windows 7 machine. Everything
is so easy to find in itunes 10.6 that i will hold off on my upgrade. The
latest and greatest thing is not always as great as advertised.
Marco the rocket
On 2013-03-06, at 22:04, Sieghard Weitzel
Dear listers,
Today I found out something about 1password that I thought I'd share. Question
was: when using 1password on the iphone, how do I copy a certain password over
to another application? Say you're inside the passwords tab sheet, or section.
There you have a list of assigned text
Hello list
Is there a way to switch the blind square voice off because
it interferes with voiceover, or should one rather swith VO
off.
Regards
Fanus
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:10 PM
With a webpage that I shared with someone last night, he did not have to
make a phone call. I was under the impression that you had to make one call,
but he got it set up without making that call. That site is:
I've never been able to get switch to work for me either. Record from the
earphone jack? If she's recorded from the iPhones built in mic, she should
still be able to pull any file in to audacity get this done... I'm not
real sure why she'd need to record from the earphone jack?
- Original
There is a mute button, then it doesn't say anything. I think I said about
this, so not as happy as many with it.
Rh.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: BlindSquare Question
Hello
A few people told me to use iTunes, but I have a hard time with it, so I won't
worry about it. I thank all of you who tried to help.
Take care.
Debbie
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From: Sean Paul
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:27 AM
Subject: Re:
Hey DJ.
I use square myself. It's a great business tool for what I need. My work
around on the sound jack being used by the square is either a splitter, I plug
square into one jack and used to plug my Icom into another. Now, when I can I
use blue-tooth, or my braille display, which gets
I can’t figure out how to remove the birthday calendar from the Calendar app.
It got the birthdays from my contact list, I think. When I try to look at a
list view it always starts with January 2012 and has all the birthdays. The
list goes through 2015. To find the real appointments and such
Sure, I'd like to hear a podcast about GoogleVoice.
Thanks.
Debbie
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: google voice
Hi there. I am willing to show you or anyone else who is
Hi list
how much does it cost to join four square.? I am trying to fill in
the online form but the website keeps refreshing.
must try it on the iphone. I am in the uk. I understand when the
sendero app comes along you must have your points of interest in four
square or at least that's an
John, it's a long time since I joined, but I don't believe it costs
anything.
Cheers
Alex
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Sent: 07 March 2013 14:34
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: four square
Hi list
into that!
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
Anyone else using the Netatmo weather station? any comments?/thoughts?
Marie
All the best
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Hi,
If my memory's correct, I joined Foursquare last summer, and it didn't cost
me anything. Actually I may have tied it to my Facebook account, but I'm
not sure about that.
Tom
last summer.
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To:
Hi all,
I have an iPhone and a MacBook.
I have an opportunity to buy an iPad Mini for a considerably lower price.
However, I don't think it will be very useful since I already have an iPhone.
What do you all think?
Can the iPad do anything that the iPhone can't?
Is it a good substitute for the
The short answer is no.
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Is there any fighting to this game?
Something that you have to actually do?
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From:
Hi,
No, the i pad is not a good substitute for the mac! I have an i phone, and i
pad, and a mac. I like them all, but they have their uses but can't substitute
for each other! the mac is way more powerful then the i pad.
hth,
Caitlyn
On 2013-03-07, at 9:55 AM, Rahul Bajaj
As of a few months ago when I last tried VizWiz, it was not helpful. I
took a picture of a medicine bottle that was either Adville or Adville
PM. Big difference in the morning when you don't want to sleep your
day away. Anyway, I asked VizWiz whether the bottle was Adville or
Adville PM, and got
Hi Cara.
Yes the main person is pretty creepy. :) I like it but there might be some who
don't. He don't change his personality through the game, but he switches
between being nice and friendly when needed and mmore angry than needed. You'll
incounter some pretty fun and unexpected reactions
Hi Tom got it did it on the iphone. I must say I am more than ever
impressed with blind square. for access and the price I cannot speak
highley enough about it.
At 14:56 07/03/2013, you wrote:
Hi,
If my memory's correct, I joined Foursquare last summer, and it
didn't cost me anything.
Hi,
I have all the devices you mentioned, and I use all three, the iPad mini is
good because of the stellar battery life. And mac can do things that iOs can't
and vice versa.
HTH,
Courtney
Sent from my iMac
On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Hi All,
can anyone tell me what's going on with the app Store? it told me I had
updates 5 items so it said, but when I go in to the app store, I can't find
anything or voiceover is not recognising them. Has anyone else got this
problem?
Sandra
Braille Greeting Cards
Hi Sandy,
I just checked my updates in the app store. I do not have any problems
accessing my updates with VO. All the updates read just fine. HTH.
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Sandra Heaton san...@sandras-place.co.uk wrote:
Hi All,
can anyone tell me what's
It must be something on their end. I had the same trouble last night, but could
get on other sites without problem. Eventually, I was able to establish a
successful connection.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sandra Heaton
Sent: Thursday, March 07,
Hi Grant,
I can't confirm your first point, somebody else brought it up last week and
I checked it out and found the same happens for me on this latest iTunes
update. Probably a good idea if everybody who cares about it will write to
Apple Accessibility as well as Freedom Scientific.
I'll try
Hi marco,
Everything is in fact just as easy to find in iTunes 11, but it's different
and involves a bit of a learning curve. The old and familiar is always what
some people prefer even if the new is better and there is no doubt that
iTunes 11 is faster and now that I have gotten used to it
I have a slightly different problem, but it may be related to last night,
I'm not sure.
I'm using the Apple Bluetooth keyboard. When I double tap the password field
on the iPhone screen, No keyboard shows up. I have to turn off the keyboard,
tap the screen, and then turn the keyboard back on.
Hi Sandra,
Just moments ago I updated six apps on my phone; everything worked fine here.
Tom
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From: Sandra Heaton
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:44 AM
Subject: What's going on with the app Store?
Hi All,
can anyone
I personally like text detective.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is there an OCR app for the Iphone that is accessible
Hi, Is there an OCR app that
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Hi Scott,
Did you make sure you had Web Workers enabled and not just IQ Engine? Also,
did you make sure you really had a good picture of the label?
I took a picture of a can of Varathane once and asked What kind of
Varathane is this since I wasn't sure if it was for interior or exterior
use and
I'm having the same problem today myself.
On 03/07/2013 09:59 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
It must be something on their end. I had the same trouble last night,
but could get on other sites without problem. Eventually, I was able to
establish a successful connection.
Hi Neil,
When you say that no keyboard shows up, do you mean you don't have the
virtual keyboard on the screen when your Apple Wireless Keyboard is
connected? The virtual keyboard is hidden by default if your Apple keyboard
is connected, but you can unhide it by pressing the very right button
I prefer Prizmo. It is a little more complicated than others, but I get the
best results with it.
I believe there is lots of information on applevis.com about it as well as
others.
HTH,
Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Neal Ewers
My iPhone showed 1 update just now and after the usual loading time of about
10 or 15 seconds the update shows up just fine. It seems there is another
Skype update, I'll post the What's New in a separate message so that the
subject line reflects the message topic.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Does anybody know of a good accessible speed test app for the iPhone thanks
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Just for clarification, I've waited quite a bit longer than the usual 10
or so seconds and my Updates tab is still blank. I'm also not having
any other network problems that I can notice. No worries, I'm sure
they'll show up at some point.
On 03/07/2013 10:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
My
The Apple TV Bluetooth support is for keyboards, not Bluetooth speakers.
Best,
Rick alfaro
On 3/6/2013 9:11 PM, Kliphton wrote:
Okay, like my jamm box so far, but went to pair it with my apple TV 3^rd
gen, and it is not showing up in the list of blue tooth devices. How do
I make this
I used Switch all of the time back when I was a Windows user. It was my
audio conversion utility of choice. I remember that with one of the
updates, the tab key stopped tracking the item on the interface but the
pull down menus and hot keys still worked as before. Just giving my
perspective so
Sandra it appears I cannot duplicate this on my iPhone 4 running 6.1.2.
I opened the app store to find 7 updates in my case. I double tapped
update all and it's updating as I speak.
Sorry.
Chris.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 07/03/2013 15:44, Sandra Heaton wrote:
Hi All,
can anyone tell me
I want to do a lot of updates on my daughter's iPad from within the App Store.
How can I do this? When I go to Updates, all I see is Updates--no way to update
anything. Is there any way to do this, short of letting her handle it herself
with me watching?
Jane
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Hi Listers,
There is a new Skype update, here are the 4 things they mention in the
What's New section:
Beautiful New Calling Experience
Mark all your recent chats as read with just a few taps
General Fixes and Improvements
One-to-One chats now appear in the correct order
I just
hi, tx for sharing your experience :)
With kind regards,
-Peter Durieux
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geschreven:
Hi Listers,
There is a new Skype update, here are the 4 things they mention in the
“What’s New” section:
Beautiful New
I use Switch and Oxelon. Oxelon is free and at least for Jaws, it is
accessible.
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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:51 AM
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Subject: Re:
I have this same problem.
Jenn
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Of Sandra Heaton
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What's going on with the app Store?
Hi All,
can anyone tell me what's going on
It's just as easy with iTunes 11 once you enable the sidebar and you set
the radio button to either songs or artists. Just my £0.02 worth.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 07/03/2013 10:13, Rocket wrote:
I am glad i haven't upgraded my itunes yet on my windows 7 machine. Everything
is so easy to
hi what i would do is go in to the app switcher get rid of the
app store then go in again.
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I tried that three times.
Jenn
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: What's going on with the app Store?
hi what i would do is go
Hello all
yes I love Fleksy a lot and use it for both short and long messages. A
tip: you can send e-mail directly via Fleksy by going into the menu and
by choosing e-mail. Also if you have e-mail addresses in your favourites
you can double tap on a send to menu item and it's just a case of
I've also tried that as well, although I only tried it once. Note too
that the rest of the tabs in the App Store seem to be working fine. For
me at least, it's just the Updates tab.
On 03/07/2013 11:35 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:
I tried that three times.
Jenn
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Depends how you propose speeding... iTreadmill keeps your
walking/jogging/running speed and keeps averages too for monitoring your
plan over time. I think Ariadne told me a speed on a bus once or twice, but
don't suppose that's enough for your purposes.
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I noticed after waiting about 15 minutes the list of updates appeared.
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No and no, the Mini don't do anything the iPhone can't do, and for sure the
Mini can't do stuff a Mac can do. But I and a few of us still have a Mini
and like it for what it does do. The Mini does somethings different since
it has the bigger screen, but you can still do it in your
No I'm looking for Speedtest app to test my network speed
Sent from Conrad's iPhone
On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:42 PM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
Depends how you propose speeding... iTreadmill keeps your
walking/jogging/running speed and keeps averages too for monitoring your
plan over
Hi, I have the latest version of iTunes, but it is the one I use to use with
my iTouch and I don't want anything on the iTouch on the new iPhone. When I
run iTunes, it asks me to enter my ID and password. When I got my iPhone, I
set up a different email and password, but I try to enter it and it
Hello everyone,
My StandScan Pro arrived today and I'm really impressed! Below my signature
I've pasted two scans, the first one using the mains adaptor with the StandScan
Pro, and the second one using the battery. These are double-pages and the two
are not the same.
Cheers,
Anne
The Art
Hi. wow I'm impressed as well. It's not totally perfect, but certainly
readable.
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. -
Mahatma Gandhi
On 08/03/2013, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson annefromo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
Hi.
It's not quite that simple. YOu have to work out what objects do, and solve
puzzles in order to get things done. It's more like a strategy game.
hth
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. -
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On
O lord,
I wonder what my problem is? does anyone have any idea then?
Take care and any help would be appreciated thanks. I have tried rebooting the
phone just switching off and switching it back on again as I very rarely turn
my phone off these days.
thanks.
Sandra
Braille Greeting
Yes that's the same as me O well I guess I shall have to wait and see what
happens.
thanks everyone anyway for answering my question. Obviously it sounds like
their end.
Take care,
Sandra
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www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
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Jailbroken means you have full access to the iPhone including its full
file structure. You also have access to apps not in the app store.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 07/03/2013 00:27, Troy Sullivan wrote:
Can someone explain or direct me to help me find out what this jail broken
stuff is all
Hi, it seems to be happening to more people than just you. I had to
reschedule a training with a client because of it.
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If you
Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
On 3/7/2013 12:47 PM, Sandra Heaton wrote:
O lord,
I wonder what my problem is? does anyone have any idea
Prizmo and Text Detective are both accessible. Learning to hold the iPhone
properly to take a good enough picture requires lots of practice. Search the
archive as this has been explained several times.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from
I have had this happen many different times for quite a long time now.
Normally taking the app store out of the app switcher and reopening it
normally brings back the update screen showing what it should. From
what you all say, that is not exactly what fixes it though. It has
happened on different
Hello all
has anyone tried this app? It sends you notifications of paid apps that
has gone free for 24 hours for example.
Any responses would be greatly appreciated as it sounds good and may
help me discover useful and interesting apps.
Thanks!
Chris.
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Hi all, I just happen to grab this app and am still playing with it. I think
I like using the standered keyboard better. Just my thoughts.
Matthew
On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Chris H wrote:
Hello all
yes I love Fleksy a lot and use it for both short and long messages. A tip:
you can
If you're using the web workers, it sure sounds like they're not actually
listening to the question but just writing something as soon as the picture
comes up.
These experiences would be worth sharing with the app developers / sponsors.
Smiles,
Cara :)
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Hi all,
Has anyone tried the wheel of forction game on the iphone? Just wondered I was
looking around in the app store and wondered if anyone has tried it.
Matthew
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On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:38 PM, matthew Dyer matthew.dye...@earthlink.net wrote:
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Has anyone tried the wheel of forction game on the iphone? Just wondered I
was looking around in the app store and wondered if anyone has tried it.
Matthew
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HI. Just curious, why would you prefer the standard keyboard to fleksy/
God Bless! Maria from australia
Newbie mac user.
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
will get you fb as well as email iMessage.
skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl
On 08/03/2013, at 6:50 AM,
For me, my spelling lacks luster. to use fleksy, one needs to know how to spell
every word correctly, so VoiceOver sounding the misspelled word alert, is a
time saving necessity in comparison.
Brett
On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Maria Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
HI. Just
I just hate how apple doesn't allow for the rolling back of an update if one
discovers that the new update is not working for them. This is one of my
reasons for holding off on itunes 11. Having used itunes 10.6 on a xp machine
i can honestly say that the itunes 10 running on a 64 bit windows
Hi all,
I'm going to be completely honest. I think Fleksy's word prediction is amazing
and the first few times I used it I felt as though it were reading my mind. I
think the concept and the developers are brilliant.
As the novelty wore off and I began trying to rely on Fleksy to get things
Hi guys. I'm asking this again because I hadn't gotten an answer
before. How do I go on to the next chapter of the game? All it says
when I load it up is that it's at the end of the chapter and I can't do
anything after that. Does this mean I've beaten the game? If so, then
that was a kinda
Hi, I figured it out. It is quite simple really if you know what you are
doing. iTunes, for me, has always been a bloated piece of software I would
rather not use. By the way, I just went to the store menu and signed out and
back in again. Simple, right? But it's all up hill from here. Thank
I don't know if the reason why I'm having a problem with Switch is because it's
coming from my iPhone. Because when I go to the recorded file, go to the files
menu, I don't see Switch.
Debbie
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Is switch for the mac at all, and where would I get a copy, just curious.
Thanks.
On Mar 7, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Debbie G wrote:
I don't know if the reason why I'm having a problem with Switch is because
it's coming from my iPhone. Because when I go to the recorded file, go to
the files
Hello all
I use a combination of Fleksy and BrailleTouch and they work well together.
I find that I have days where I just want to use Fleksy, days where I
just want to use BrailleTouch, and days where I want to use a bit of both.
I so can't make up my mind because I love both of these apps
Hi, Am I correct in assuming that when you back up to the cloud, the things
that you have checked like documents, contacts, are transferred along with
your purchased apps? The apps are not listed on the backup page, so I was
not sure if they are being backed up or not.
Thanks.
Neal
Yes, there is a version of Switch for the Mac. I think it's from a
company called NCH. You should be able to find it by searching for Swift
audio conversion or something else reasonable.
On 03/07/2013 04:01 PM, Timothy Emmons wrote:
Is switch for the mac at all, and where would I get a copy,
I assume you see Switch in the File pull down for other file formats? It
could be that the free version of Switch only supports the M4A file
format on the Mac. Don't take my word for that. Look it up on line or
check the documentation.
On 03/07/2013 03:58 PM, Debbie G wrote:
I don't know if
Are you trying to use switch from your iPhone? Or? Are you getting the files
on to your computer?
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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 17:14
Subject: Re: Converting M4A files?
I assume you see
I'll take a look, thanks for letting me know. I'm trying to find something like
that, to put files on my iPhone since I've completely dropped windows at home
and run straight OS10 now, so just checking. Thanks and sorry to interrupt the
flow of everything, but was just curious. Thanks.
On Mar
Hi all,
I need some data plan advice. Currently, we have 2 lines with VZW, mine is
still unlimited data, the other line has just been downgraded to 2gb data,
because of an upgrade.
Well, to save some money, I'm considering revamping our plan, into one of those
share everything plans. The
My understanding is that once you get in to those shared data plans, you can't
get out. I could very well be wrong but the folks I've asked about it from both
VZ ATT have told me that once you're in, you're in. I think the overall
question I'd ask myself is this. Is the money I'd save really
What is the best way to edit Google Docs on an iPad? Looking at that as an
alternative to using TextEdit on the Mac.
Jane
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I just feel that I can type faster on it. I can not seem to grasp the hole
idea of having to guess whare I think the letters are. Just my thoughts.
Matrthew
On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Maria Joe Chapman wrote:
HI. Just curious, why would you prefer the standard keyboard to fleksy/
HI. I was just curious. After typing with a virtual keyboard for a while I
found that I could pretty much guess where the letters were.
Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
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twitter: bubbygirl
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I have no idea what the best way to do it is, but the Google Drive app
doesn't seem to be accessible when it comes to editing Google Docs. The
NoteMaster app will let you edit documents in Google Docs directly. This
may be a option worth checking out. There's a Lite version of
NoteMaster, so
I agree. On the native keyboard, I frequently can enter several common entries
(i.e. my passcode) without even waiting to hear confirmation that I touched the
right spot. In most cases, my finger lands on the correct letter or very close
to it.
Grant
On 2013-03-07, at 2:51 PM, Maria Joe
Hey all,
I just got a set of bluetooth headphones, and I'm not sure how to pare them
with my IPhone. Can someone help?
Thanks,
Chris
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Hi,
I copied a few documents to my phone using the file sharing. Now there is a
document on my phone called empty. I can't do anything with it. How do I get
rid of it?
Thank you so much!
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Hi All,
Just tried the app store again and it seems to have corrected itself. so I
guess it must have had something to do with their end. Thanks to all who tried
to help.
Take care,
Sandra
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Viz Wiz has consistently worked for me to solve complicated visual problems.
Example I wanted to hook up stereo speakers and needed to know which jacks on
my receiver were red positive or black negative. I took the picture of the
back of the receiver and asked the question are the red
Hello list:
OK, this topic was recently discussed on list and I actually saved the messages
from the discussion. Now, I cannot find said messages :).
I could use a recommendation or two or three :) for a budgeting app. I believe
pocket budget was recommended at one time and there was a second
When doing dictation with either the dictate button on the keybord or using
cerie I notice that many times it will not understand me very well and it will
type stuff that makes no sence especially if I say something that is long, the
same goes for Cerie, is there a way to get the phone to
Is it good to have an antivirus App for the IPhone? If so which ones work well
with voiceover?
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I have issues with it as well, jaws becomes very sluggish and unresponsive no
matter the version.
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From: Tom Lange
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:40 PM
Subject: ITunes Questions
Hi,
I'm going to preface my post by
4square is free to sign up
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From: Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: four square
John, it's a long time since I joined, but I don't believe it costs
anything.
Cheers
Alex
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