Re: [vmeet] web-conference for discussing Local Communities before IETF 100

--On Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:03 PM -0400 Alia Atlas wrote: > John, > > Good point! I'm happy to pick a different date - but before > the draft cut-off hopefully. > > How is Oct 24 or 25 then? Sorry. I screwed up and read "October" as "September". 18th, 19th, 24th

Re: [vmeet] web-conference for discussing Local Communities before IETF 100

Alia, good idea, IMO. However, the 18th and 19th conflict with a set of important ISOC events (the 25th anniversary party and Internet Hall of Fame presentation) plus, I expect, a lot of informal side meetings (I'm a bit surprised Christian didn't mention that). The combination of travel and an

Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?

--On Monday, August 21, 2017 10:41 -0400 Lee Howard wrote: > Is there interest in getting together at IETF 100? > Maybe as a non-WG-forming BoF? I almost certainly won't be in Singapore but if there is adequate need for this to justify such a BOF, I'd be happy to participate

Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?

--On Friday, July 14, 2017 16:32 +0200 Toerless Eckert wrote: > Thanks John for the detailled explanation. > > Some thoughts: > > It sounds as if you worry about the best solution to deal with > bad behavior, eg: biased chairs, pontification, flash mobs, > irreconcileable

Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?

Toerless, Hi. I don't have a convenient URL. Maybe someone else can provide one. But the issues you ask about below, vis-a-vis remote participation with a local user as request manager, come down to fundamental IETF procedural and fairness issues. As only one example, in WGs with

Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?

Joly, Sorry... I was responding a bit in the context of some prior discussions (some not on the vmeet list) as well as to Alia's note and your response. Clarification below. --On Thursday, July 13, 2017 19:51 -0400 Joly MacFie wrote: > Individuals attending hubs can still

Re: [vmeet] interest in a side-meeting to talk about remote hubs, local communities, etc?

Hi. I will not be in Prague, but would be happy to participate remotely, if that is possible, in whatever you decide to do. Joly's observations about the ICANN experience reinforces my impressions and things I've been saying for some time: remote observation hubs, pre- or post-meeting summary

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

--On Sunday, January 29, 2017 19:33 -0500 John Leslie wrote: >... >They attract mostly a "local" audience, often with interest > concentrated on a very few sessions. This is less than I hope > we'd wish to offer to folks that were planning to go to > Chicago. John, please

Re: [vmeet] meetecho for remote presenters

Coming back to part of this and dropping the tools list... --On Friday, April 08, 2016 15:42 +0200 Meetecho IETF support wrote: >... >> Sometimes doing a refresh loses the room information and it >> prompts for a room name. Huh? And the prompts look really >> messed up on my

Re: [vmeet] Experience as a remote attendee

Simon, A thought about one aspect of your note... --On Sunday, April 10, 2016 22:11 +0200 Simon Pietro Romano wrote: >... > In case of remote presentations, each remotee obviously adds > one further video stream to the pack. If you add to that the > lower- bandwidth

Re: [vmeet] Suggestion

--On Saturday, April 09, 2016 18:46 + "Fred Baker (fred)" wrote: >... > Two comments. First, she did a pretty good job - not perfect, > but pretty darn good. Second, just like when you see > closed-caption on a TV, what she wrote was largely phonetic, > and often picked a

Re: [vmeet] Remote Attendance: Simultaneous Translation Software

Nalini, I'd encourage moving in this direction only with great care for three reasons. First, many (I'd hope most) of the presentations at IETF meetings are quite technical and specific, with small differences in wording potentially making a large difference. Such materials are notoriously hard

Re: [vmeet] Bar BOF for Remote Hubs : Room Change

--On Wednesday, November 04, 2015 16:10 -0500 Paul Kyzivat wrote: > It didn't work for me. I got there but it said "Too early... > Event start time: 11/04/2015 17:45". Paul, I'm online now and seeing and hearing people in the room, some of whom sound like thay are

[vmeet] Quick post-meeting thoughts

Hi. A few comments made in the last few minutes of the meeting illustrates another part of what I was trying to get at when I suggested it was important to be clear about objectives and expectations. A "try it, some will work and some won't" approach is appropriate, indeed optimal, for many

Re: [vmeet] just a suggestion

--On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 19:39 +0900 \Martin J. Dürst\ due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: On 2014/03/11 23:52, Spencer Dawkins wrote: Some chairs have let me wave frantically to attract their attention, so they could put me virtually in line until it was my turn, but I was delaying the

Re: [vmeet] just a suggestion

--On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 08:42 -0700 Alexa Morris amor...@amsl.com wrote: It has a queuing feature built in -- you join the meeting room, you get in line, and when it's your turn there is another smart phone acting as moderator that passes mic control to you. It sounds interesting but I

Re: [vmeet] [BOFCHAIRS] Remote participation

--On Monday, April 02, 2012 14:32 + Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote: In the case of DHC at least, the metrics are pretty accurate. There was barely time in the wg meeting to actually have any meaningful discussion about anything, so each presentation wound up being sales pitch, a

Re: [vmeet] Etherpad deployment for this meeting

the meeting ... at least until Etherpad can be improved somewhat and made hugely more robust. john On 3/31/2012 8:57 AM, John C Klensin wrote: Let me add two things from the perspective of the remote participant. - I had to manually scroll the window after every lines

Re: [vmeet] Etherpad deployment for this meeting

the meeting ... at least until Etherpad can be improved somewhat and made hugely more robust. john On 3/31/2012 8:57 AM, John C Klensin wrote: Let me add two things from the perspective of the remote participant. - I had to manually scroll the window after every lines

Re: [vmeet] [BOFCHAIRS] Remote participation

--On Monday, April 02, 2012 18:34 +0200 Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: ... (i) Encourage presentations to be prepared as a sequence of slides accompanied by either written narrative or audio (or possibly video) and made available with a cutoff not later that the cutoff for new I-Ds

Re: [vmeet] [BOFCHAIRS] Remote participation

--On Saturday, March 31, 2012 04:19 -0400 Marshall Eubanks marshall.euba...@gmail.com wrote: ... No, I meant doing the transcription remotely to avoid the expenses of airfare and hotels.  Skilled transcribers are more expensive.  BTW, I looked up the figures over a year ago. Interesting

Re: [vmeet] [BOFCHAIRS] Remote participation

--On Friday, March 30, 2012 16:18 -0700 SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hi John, At 15:14 30-03-2012, John C Klensin wrote: Just so we understand what we are talking about, that means all eight tracks, plus the plenaries? My recollection of how much Yes. skilled transcribers can do

Re: [vmeet] IETF83 and draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs-03

--On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:20 +0900 \Martin J. Dürst\ due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp wrote: I know that. And non-English participants (and hearing-impaired ones) whether they are in the room or not. But the transcripts are useful _remotely_ only if they identify speakers -- or we have video

Re: [vmeet] Remote participation

--On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:00 -0800 Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/28/12 10:52 AM, SM wrote: Instead of projecting slides through the entire session, the Jabber room could be projected during discussions. Currently, Jabber is unidirectional with the in-room

Re: [vmeet] IETF83 and draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs-03

--On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 01:21 +0200 Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: ... Of the 3 WG sessions I was in today, audio was broken in two (WebSec WG in 242AB and URNBIS WG in 243). Both times, we had to contact the NOC and someone came into the room to fix things. Once someone

[vmeet] The devil in the details (was: Re: Meetecho tutorial at IETF83)

--On Thursday, March 15, 2012 13:27 +0100 Simon Pietro Romano sprom...@unina.it wrote: Dear all, I would like to remind you that we are going to offer a tutorial at the upcoming IETF in Paris: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/83/tutorials/meetecho.html. We'll try to provide all of you (both

Re: [vmeet] [Team] The devil in the details

--On Sunday, March 25, 2012 17:34 +0200 Simon Pietro Romano sprom...@unina.it wrote: Hi John, what can I say...I'm really sorry that you had such a hard time trying to get the link. Simon, thanks, Don't be. I think we are likely to learn far more from the experience than we would have