Robin is right, in a parallel plate capacitor C=epsilon*A/d
so q (constant here) = C*v = (epsilon*A/d)*v = epsilon*A * v/d
so v/d is constant too.
Michel
- Original Message -
From: John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 7:27 AM
Thomas Malloy suggested algae ponds in the southwest desert.
I suggest floating filters-sieves as algae ponds on streams, rivers, and lakes,
and Blanton's swimming pool, where the water passes through and the algae
are contained in them for harvesting for dumping into abandoned coal mines for
Do-it-yourself oil and gas wells from algae while lowering atmospheric CO2.
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2007/2007-02-09-09.asp
FY 2008 Budget Cut $100 Million for Coal to Liquid Fuel Project
The proposed plant would convert 1.7 million tons of waste coal per year into
60 million gallons
Floating microalgae ponds indeed Fred, but seas and oceans might be a better
bet than fresh water surfaces, because of higher mineral contents and available
surface area. That's what I proposed in earlier threads concerning biodiesel.
Part or all of the production could be transformed in BD,
Michel Jullian wrote:
Floating microalgae ponds indeed Fred, but seas and oceans might be a
better bet than fresh water surfaces, because of higher mineral contents
and available surface area. That's what I proposed in earlier threads
concerning biodiesel. Part or all of the production could
Fresh water expanses offer less surface area than oceans obviously, and the
minerals they contain couldn't be depleted indefinitely as they are needed to
grow food.
As for methanization we would have to make sure the absorbed carbon doesn't
leak back to the atmosphere as a worse GHG than CO2!
In reply to John Berry's message of Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:27:45 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
In a 2 plate capacitor when together the field strength is concentrated more
on the inside of the 2 plates, while there is the same net field once
separated now it is spread out, and the field of the opposite plate
On 2/14/07, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas Malloy suggested algae ponds in the southwest desert.
I suggest floating filters-sieves as algae ponds on streams, rivers, and
lakes,
and Blanton's swimming pool,
Fortunately, I no longer own said aglae hole. I have moved up in
Michel Jullian wrote:
Fresh water expanses offer less surface area than oceans obviously, and
the minerals they contain couldn't be depleted indefinitely as they are
needed to grow food.
As for methanization we would have to make sure the absorbed carbon
doesn't leak back to the atmosphere as
Sure Fred I am not ignoring this wonderful emission lowering scheme, but we
also need a solution to recapture what's already been dumped into the
atmosphere, that's the challenge. However I have no doubt some inspiration can
be gotten from this scheme, e.g. bubbling to increase CO2 dissolution.
BlankHowdy Vorts,
Many major resources and plant facilities already exist in the USA..
Coal fired power plants
Water filtration plants
Wastewater treatment plants
A single huge wastewater treatment plant alone is the opposite of an algae
factory by design. Change the process and the plant
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
Somewhat off topic, but see:
http://www.intel.com/research/platform/terascale/teraflops.htm?iid=newstab+supercomputing
I wonder what they charge for it?
It is NFS (Not For Sale). It is just a prototype device. It does not
do any useful
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to John Berry's message of Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:12:00 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
That's how many electrostatic machines work such as the Wimshurst.
There are 3 different things, voltage, field strength and charge imbalance,
in this case the Voltage goes up, however
Terry Blanton wrote:
Fortunately, I no longer own said aglae hole. I have moved up in the
world to the land of $10k prostitutes:
And those are $10k middle aged prostitutes, no less.
- Jed
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
Somewhat off topic, but see:
http://www.intel.com/research/platform/terascale/teraflops.htm?iid=newstab+supercomputing
I wonder what they charge for it?
It is NFS (Not For Sale). It is just a prototype
FWIW here is a half baked idea I already talked about privately with some
people here and elsewhere, with mixed feedback.
Cold fusion, bubble fusion and new energy at large would undoubtedly benefit
from any measure helping the valid claims to emerge out of the erroneous
ones(*).
Such a
--- Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robin is right, in a parallel plate capacitor
C=epsilon*A/d
so q (constant here) = C*v = (epsilon*A/d)*v =
epsilon*A * v/d
so v/d is constant too.
Michel
A tricky thing here was I thought I remebered using
this formula using English units
Michel Jullian wrote:
Cold fusion, bubble fusion and new energy at large would undoubtedly
benefit from any measure helping the valid claims to emerge out of
the erroneous ones(*).
It is hard to imagine claims more valid than the ones already published.
Such a useful measure IMHO would be
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Skeptics have proven themselves incapable of objectivity. Anyone who has
read the cold fusion literature carefully and is not convinced not
objective, not a scientist, and not rational. (At least, not with regard to
this subject.) That is like studying physics and doubting
Obviously Jed I do not mean a generic technician.
The technician must be good at calorimetry,
and work with electrochemical cells etc...
but this is not enough.
A great technician is one who views his work as
more than just a job to pay off the bills.
They have a passion for what they do. For
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:31:29 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
of silicon, from silicates, not from SiO2 (the anions in the silicates are
Oops, that should be cations.
needed to combine with the CO2 to form carbonates). Solar cells as a use for
the
Silicon perhaps?
Robin is not right.
A metal sphere and a metal cone of equal capacity at an equal voltage and
charge imbalance will have the same net electric field.
But the electric field density at the point of the cone (along with the
charge imbalance density at that point) is greater than the electric
Yup, that was meant to be I'm not wrong about this.
I was changing it from I don't think I'm wrong about this, decided I was
certain so I removed the uncertainty but by doing so reversed it's meaning.
On 2/15/07, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robin is not right.
A metal sphere and a
On 2/14/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are really only a few forms in which carbon can be sequestered. As organic
compounds, or as pure carbon, or as carbonates.
I, and the women I know, would like to see C sequestered as diamonds.
However, deBeers disagrees.
Terry
On 2/14/07, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Undoing it in less than 300 years is going to be costly.
Fred
I disagree.
see: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/04/020412080812.htm
Cost of the entire process is equivalent to about 20 cents per gallon of
gasoline.
So for
Ok, Fred and Michel, I was reading this about waste disposal technology
today on the M.I.T.Technology review website
http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/18183/
and I linked up what the Vorts have been talking about with algae as a means
of creation of biofuel etc and the waste disposal
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:04:27 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
On 2/14/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are really only a few forms in which carbon can be sequestered. As
organic
compounds, or as pure carbon, or as carbonates.
I, and the women I
Here's three more websites (particularly the first one) that extol the
apparently huge benefits of bio-char charcoal in soils. If the char was
created from pyrolysed algae that was fattened on fossil fuel sourced CO2,
we could be on our way to a share of $25 million! Can anyone do some
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: COP cop
...
There is no such thing as a universally recognized lab.
...
That's the point, one would be needed because none of the existing labs
In reply to John Berry's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:37:05 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
see: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/04/020412080812.htm
Cost of the entire process is equivalent to about 20 cents per gallon of
gasoline.
[snip]
I note that they don't mention where the energy is coming
In reply to John Berry's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:42:17 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin is not right.
Robin was talking about two flat plates. Granted, they only appear as flat
plates when close together. The farther apart they are moved, the more they
begin to approximate points.
A metal sphere
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:13:02 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
... or possibly, also in a conditioning process enhanced the effects of
the Barker Patents above, as HV may be interacting with the solar
neutrino flux, for instance.
[snip]
From memory, the Solar neutrino flux is
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:11:58 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
From memory, the Solar neutrino flux is only about 80 W /m^2, however perhaps
by
Make that a maximum of 40 W /m^2.
[snip]
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
Competition
Michel Jullian writes:
I am not saying such a reference lab can be set up just like that, only that
it would be possible, and useful. The US DOE . . .
The US DoE is committed to destroying CF. It lies about its intentions, and
performs reviews with the express purpose of getting rid of CF
It applies to plates just the same.
On 2/15/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reply to John Berry's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:42:17 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin is not right.
Robin was talking about two flat plates. Granted, they only appear as flat
plates when close
No, it's just a pin point vaporization and carbonization of skin, the
soldering iron will burn and either leave skin hard, or if hotter it will
make skin slough off so it's quite different.
Obviously if the ma's are too high it is worse and if rectified to DC and
maybe a cap to rectify easily
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