Re: [Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-01 Thread John Berry
I'm a 'we have the perfect amount of water and just an abundance of glass' person myself. Actually I think the answer to the riddle is simple, were you filling the glass or emptying it? On 3/2/07, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul Lowrance wrote From what I'm seeing Vo dominated b

[Vo]: Half full or half empty

2007-03-01 Thread thomas malloy
Paul Lowrance wrote From what I'm seeing Vo dominated by "Glass half empty" people? I've always found "Glass half full" people to have much farther foresight. It's amazing how skeptics and debunkers cannot see the obvious. It's highly unlikely a person will accomplish something they disbe

Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: Terry In fact according to another scientist's controversial theory, we may be headed in the direction of a "Maunder Minimum", ... which... to Meander into cold cynicism, is another solution to the global warming problem. I have previously mentioned Avery and Singer's

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread Nick Palmer
Paul, you seem to think that just because you have used a computer modelling program (LT Spice) that it's predictions are necessarily reality. If the initial assumptions and parameters that were modelled and programmed in are in error it won't be of much use to help us in the area we are looking

Re: [Vo]: Ev Gray and Peter LInderman

2007-03-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Terry Blanton wrote: > On 3/1/07, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Subtle is the Lord, but obvious she is not." > > Hail Eris! > > http://www.principiadiscordia.com/downloads/crazy1024.jpg > > Terry > I should have written, "Subtle is the Lord, but she is not crazy." as a coun

Re: [Vo]: Solar cycles & GW

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/1/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Methinks that, politics aside, it will only be a pole reversal - but that could mean pretty major changes ... yet a bonanza for Map-Makers everywhere. Not to mention migratory birds. Hail Eris? Terry PS or "Hell, Eris!"

Re: [Vo]: Ev Gray and Peter LInderman

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/1/07, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Subtle is the Lord, but obvious she is not." Hail Eris! http://www.principiadiscordia.com/downloads/crazy1024.jpg Terry

Re: [Vo]: Aliens Claim Sir Branson's Prize

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/1/07, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeeze this is awful! They're going to pick out, very specifically, the technology used in UFOs which _crashed_! This guarantees we'll be doing something wrong. Well, duh! How is this worse than E85 or H2? ;-) Terry

[Vo]: Solar cycles & GW

2007-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
Nice chart of "freezes" on Wiki, and it shows a ~200 year cycle. I get the shivers just thinking about the cosmic repercussions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carbon14_with_activity_labels.svg Then there is the 2,000-2,300 year Hallsatt cycle. These are subsets of the Schwabe cycle, th

Re: [Vo]: Ev Gray and Peter LInderman

2007-03-01 Thread Harry Veeder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > From what I'm seeing Vo dominated by "Glass half empty" people? I've always > found "Glass half full" people to have much farther foresight. It's amazing > how > skeptics and debunkers cannot see the obvious. It's highly unlikely a person > will accomplish so

Re: [Vo]: Aliens Claim Sir Branson's Prize

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: http://physorg.com/news91888237.html UFO science key to halting climate change: former Canadian defense minister A former Canadian defense minister is demanding governments worldwide disclose and use secret alien technologies obtained in alleged UFO crashes to stem climat

Re: [Vo]: Ev Gray and Peter LInderman

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: On 3/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From what I'm seeing Vo dominated by "Glass half empty" people? I've always found "Glass half full" people to have much farther foresight. Personally, I've always wondered why we needed such a big glass. ;-)

[Vo]: Aliens Claim Sir Branson's Prize

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
http://physorg.com/news91888237.html UFO science key to halting climate change: former Canadian defense minister A former Canadian defense minister is demanding governments worldwide disclose and use secret alien technologies obtained in alleged UFO crashes to stem climate change, a local paper

Re: [Vo]: Ev Gray and Peter LInderman

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From what I'm seeing Vo dominated by "Glass half empty" people? I've always found "Glass half full" people to have much farther foresight. Personally, I've always wondered why we needed such a big glass. ;-) Terry

Re: [Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michel Jullian wrote: --- > I don't consider CF as "free energy", --- Why not? Regards, Paul Lowrance

Re: [Vo]: Ev Gray and Peter LInderman

2007-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thomas malloy wrote: > Vortexians; > > The posting on the Ev Gray motor motivated me to check the link. When I > noticed that it was Sterling Allen's website, I sent him the email > below, and recieved the following reply. I have previously posted my > criticisms of the vaporware merchant Peter Li

[Vo]: Ev Gray and Peter LInderman

2007-03-01 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; The posting on the Ev Gray motor motivated me to check the link. When I noticed that it was Sterling Allen's website, I sent him the email below, and recieved the following reply. I have previously posted my criticisms of the vaporware merchant Peter Linderman - no - no Dear Ste

Re: [Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread Michel Jullian
Paul on the pretense of saving your time and energy with your "bluntness" you are wasting everybody else's, when they obviously could be put to much better use. I don't consider CF as "free energy", and I am not an expert either. My contributions to the field are only tools and proposals which

[Vo]: Re: Hydrogen Outta Nowhere?

2007-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/02/a_history_of_dark_matter.html An alternative explanation is that environmental Hydrinos leak into the container between the atoms of the solid where they are converted into Hydrogen by the action of energetic electrons in the arc

Re: [Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jones Beene wrote: > If the curious would dump the silly rhetoric, take a moment to visit and > study the excellent site of Professor Kowalski, they would discover that > Michel Julian is, shall we opine metaphorically: knee deep into cold > fusion... ... and we on Vo should be grateful for his ex

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> I would interpret your answers as, "You are not working on Free Energy >> technology." Then may I ask "What's your purpose or goal at Vo?" > > What's yours? Just to be annoying? > > Do you think the group should only be open to people

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Nick Palmer wrote: Steven - I wasn't trying to insult you or Michel, however I was definitely trying to insult Paul after his appallingly arrogant "intelligent thinking beings" crack. Where is the late, great Chris Tinsley when you need him? He could, and did, squash adolescent grandstanding

[Vo]: Re: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
If the curious would dump the silly rhetoric, take a moment to visit and study the excellent site of Professor Kowalski, they would discover that Michel Julian is, shall we opine metaphorically: knee deep into cold fusion... ... and we on Vo should be grateful for his expert opinions on any rel

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:49:54 -0500: Hi, [snip] In any case there's also thermal noise in the diode, as I believe I also pointed out (though I didn't phrase it that way), and that is surely where you should be hunting for th

Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread Jones Beene
Terry >... "according to one scientist's controversial theory" ... you forgot to add "bogus theory" Actually just the opposite is happening - with proof - the sun has been cooling noticeably over this exact period, and the dearth of sunspots and solar flux proves that: http://www.dxlc.com/s

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would interpret your answers as, "You are not working on Free Energy technology." Then may I ask "What's your purpose or goal at Vo?" What's yours? Just to be annoying? Do you think the group should only be open to people trying to build perpetual motion mach

RE: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread Zell, Chris
I hope I got this right. If not, it's on Keelynet http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2007/02/quacks-cranks-and-junk-science.html Are global warming skeptics really cranks and kooks? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:51 AM To: vorte

Re: [Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
NASA solar irradiance data: http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/stp/SOLAR/IRRADIANCE/irrad.html On 3/1/07, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html http://snipurl.com/1bozg Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Sc

[Vo]: Mars Melt

2007-03-01 Thread Terry Blanton
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html http://snipurl.com/1bozg Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says Kate Ravilious for National Geographic News February 28, 2007 Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Nick, Nick Palmer wrote: > Firstly, I did not say that there is no THERMAL noise (obviously there > is from the Brownian motion) I said that there is no thermally induced > effective *voltage* noise when there is no current flowing. If you want to learn about thermal noise then create

Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics

2007-03-01 Thread Nick Palmer
Steven - I wasn't trying to insult you or Michel, however I was definitely trying to insult Paul after his appallingly arrogant "intelligent thinking beings" crack. Where is the late, great Chris Tinsley when you need him? He could, and did, squash adolescent grandstanding like this in a couple

Re: [Vo]: Re: lifter in a accelerating frame

2007-03-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Michel Jullian wrote: > Indeed in an inertial frame the fictitious force vanishes (from the analysis) > as a force, but it also magically reappears as mass times acceleration, simply > going from the left hand side to the right hand side of F=ma while changing > sign, so the equations remain the s