Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Michel Jullian
Apart from his own evidence being clearly insufficient (the burden of proof should be his), some of his arguments are clearly deceptive. For example, he claims the pump is running with a 10ft head, using this as an argument that it is doing work. In reality the output hose does go up 10 ft, but

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread thomas malloy
Your absolutely right, and totally within your duties as the administrator William. However, Joseph has been asked repeatedly over the past twenty plus years to conclusively demonstrate that his machine produces any usable energy, and AFAIK, he has yet to do so William Beaty wrote: On Thu,

Re: [Vo]:The usual garbage from a skeptical professor

2007-05-18 Thread Nick Palmer
That story about the difficulties the maser inventors faced is a really great argument.

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread Terry Blanton
Paul had never been able to drive an electrical load before. With such small torque, the motor would stall due to loading once even the smallest current was drawn from the generator. PM generators load a source even when open circuited due to core attraction and Lenz effect eddy currents. The

Re: [Vo]:When Terra hurts?

2007-05-18 Thread Jones Beene
Did not know about this related terahertz RD, which as it turns out, appeared on Tuesday http://tinyurl.com/2f5okq The longshot bet for an ailing Terra, short of a mythological trinity, may be another strange kind of trifecta - a triple coherency... (to be explained, hopefully) There does

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread OrionWorks
Hi Terry, ... Finally, it would run open circuited on a two magnet rotor but stalled once a current demand was added. So, Paul put on the four magnet rotor which gave the additional torque. Based on power measurements this configuration had a COP of over 3.0, INCLUDING THE GENERATOR

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: For example, he claims the pump is running with a 10ft head, using this as an argument that it is doing work. In reality the output hose does go up 10 ft, but then it goes down 10ft (it's just flung over a 10 ft ladder) . . . It is a siphon, in other words. There would

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
I'm not taking sides, but IMHO there's very little logic in your statement Michel. I would tend to agree Mr. Newman appears to not understand certain physics, but that is by no means proof Newman has not invented or stumbled upon a major discovery. That's like saying the Wright Brothers could

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
Please include his full name-- Harry Paul. Anyhow, was this an accidental effect H.Paul discovered or was it a prediction by means of physics or is it an offshoot of another free energy machine? Paul Lowrance Terry Blanton wrote: Paul had never been able to drive an electrical load

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
Please include his full name-- Harry Paul. Anyhow, was this an accidental effect H.Paul discovered or was it a prediction by means of physics or is it an offshoot of another free energy machine? Paul Lowrance Terry Blanton wrote: Paul had never been able to drive an electrical load

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
I'm not taking sides, but IMHO there's very little logic in your statement Michel. I would tend to agree Mr. Newman appears to not understand certain physics, but that is by no means proof Newman has not invented or stumbled upon a major discovery. That's like saying the Wright Brothers could

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
Jed Rothwell wrote: [snip] It should be noted that some educated observers have examined the Newman device, and they feel there may be something to it. IMHO your above statement should have been placed at top of your post, as it's by far the most meaningful. --- ... I would tend to agree

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONS

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
Jed Rothwell wrote: [snip] It should be noted that some educated observers have examined the Newman device, and they feel there may be something to it. IMHO your above statement should have been placed at top of your post, as it's by far the most meaningful. --- ... I would tend to agree

Re: [Vo]:Runaway Breakdown ionospheric energy tap

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
I'm not taking sides, but IMHO there's very little logic in your statement Michel. I would tend to agree Mr. Newman appears to not understand certain physics, but that is by no means proof Newman has not invented or stumbled upon a major discovery. That's like saying the Wright Brothers could

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Newman rediscovered the metaphysics of the siphon: Gravity can work for you, instead of you always working against gravity. This brings up the economic issue of charging for joules (energy) which I mentioned before. e.g. What gives an hydro electric company the right to forever charge for joule

correction: Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY

2007-05-18 Thread Harry Veeder
I wrote: At some point the system they have built is producing more energy then was required for its construction. That should read: At some point the system they have built has produced more energy then was required for its construction. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread Michel Jullian
Dear Terry, You are suggesting the electric power out of the generator is more than 3 times the electric power consumed by the motor. If so, there would indeed remain no serious obstacle to self-powering (which you had already announced as imminent 1 year ago), since converting the output

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Michel Jullian
Jed wrote: Newman does not appear to understand some elementary concepts such as the siphon. Many years ago when I spoke with him, he did not appear to know the difference between AC and DC electricity, and why it is important to use different kinds of electric meters. ... I know many

[Vo]:Ununtended consequences

2007-05-18 Thread Jones Beene
The following year-old patent, in a more perfect world, might form the basis of an incredible unintended benefit in cheap nuclear energy (apparently unintended by the inventors, that is). http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20060140326.html Alas, the powers-that-be in the USA will most likely

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread Terry Blanton
The magnetic wankel. Cited by the patent examiner on H. Paul's patent. Paul says he thought of it playing with a dual rotor helicopter. Go figure. Terry On 5/18/07, Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please include his full name-- Harry Paul. Anyhow, was this an accidental effect

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread Terry Blanton
You tube downloads into a temp folder on your computer. You just have to find where (search on date/time). You can then rename the file with a .flv extension and use this freeware to play it: http://www.wimpyplayer.com/products/wimpy_standalone_flv_player.html We never really tried to get the

Re: [Vo]:Ununtended consequences

2007-05-18 Thread Jones Beene
Ununtended was an unintended consequence of the confluence of old-eyes, small print, hasty posting - and a spell-checker which does not work on the Subject box. Anyone know of a way to get Mozilla Thunderbird to spell-check the subject box?

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Paul Lowrance wrote: That's like saying the Wright Brothers could not have invented the first heavier than air powered plane to fly under sustained control because they clearly did not understand certain laws of physics, lol. Bad example. The Wright brothers were as different from Newman as

Re: [Vo]:Ununtended consequences

2007-05-18 Thread Harry Veeder
I dunno. Although once an unintended consequence happens, for better or worse it is often left untended. ;-) Harry On 18/5/2007 1:08 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Ununtended was an unintended consequence of the confluence of old-eyes, small print, hasty posting - and a spell-checker which does not

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: Come on Jed. The guy is 72 he says, he has been running his show under various forms for 40 years it seems, and he is very far from being an idiot. He seemed kind of stupid to me, but I only talked to him for 10 or 20 minutes, so I cannot tell. He was not trying to

[Vo]:Paul Brown update

2007-05-18 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; I just had a conversation with an old friend, Al. He mentioned the late Paul Brown. Al is stockholder in Nucsol. Several years ago, some short sellers targeted the company, the value of it's stock has yet to recover. The culprits have a court date soon. Paul had some plasma

Re: [Vo]:The usual garbage from a skeptical professor

2007-05-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: Thanks Jed for trying to keep such people honest. Thanks. I forwarded your message to the prof. Nick Palmer wrote: That story about the difficulties the maser inventors faced is a really great argument. I copied that text from a review of Townes' book that I wrote

[Vo]:Above top secret forum takes up cold fusion

2007-05-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread281219/pg1 I have mixed feelings about this. I dislike conspiracy theorists, but I welcome their support. I cannot easily add a message to this discussion but if I could I would tell these people that there is nothing secret about cold fusion or

Re: [Vo]:Sprain Magmo

2007-05-18 Thread Terry Blanton
Michel, ma belle, His input power is 23.52 W/pulse x duty cycle. Duty cycle is 4 pulses per cycle x 0.028 sec/cycle over 1.5 sec/cycle or 1.76 W. COP = 2.38 These were not the figures he had when we had it optimized. Poor girl has degraded significantly. Plus, Paul changed the bulb (I told

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Paul Lowrance
Jed Rothwell wrote: Paul Lowrance wrote: That's like saying the Wright Brothers could not have invented the first heavier than air powered plane to fly under sustained control because they clearly did not understand certain laws of physics, lol. Bad example. The Wright brothers were as

Re: [Vo]:The usual garbage from a skeptical professor

2007-05-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
I cleaned up that essay about Partridge and sent him a copy. He may not be pleased by it. I would be astonished -- flat out floored -- if he were to upload a copy. People like him never do that. People like me, on the other hand, always do that. If someone sent me an essay shredding my

Re: [Vo]:*******VIDEO LINK TO THE NEW ENERGY MACHINE DEMONSTRATION

2007-05-18 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 18 May 2007 13:04:27 -0500: Hi, [snip] Newman rediscovered the metaphysics of the siphon: Gravity can work for you, instead of you always working against gravity. This brings up the economic issue of charging for joules (energy) which I mentioned

[Vo]:Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday May 18, 2007

2007-05-18 Thread Akira Kawasaki
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[Vo]:Scientists one more step closer to realising invisible technology

2007-05-18 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
Hi, http://www.physorg.com/news97945163.html quote:- This happens because the metamaterial that makes up the cloak stretches the metrics of space, in a similar way to what heavy planets and stars do for the metrics of space-time in Einstein’s general relativity theory. ...sounds like a warp