But thermal energy is actual kinetic energy isn't it, so it doesn't resolve the
dilemma. Infinite times a short (but finite) period of time would be
infinite... no, this is definitely unclear, there must exist a correct,
accepted way to compute these things, we just haven't found it yet, and
It occurred to me that lateral motion capability of the robotic head of the
midwater submerged harvesting sea line (remember the giant worms in Dune? ;)
would be a good thing anyway, as it would allow snorting the lines of
sargassum, as this seaweed self-organizes in linear slicks as seen on
MF wrote:-
I think you guys missed my point. Whether you like it or not, mass media
reporters, politicians, and amateur environmentalists *are* the
environmental movement in the mind of the public. Their clownish antics
will eventually discredit serious environmental efforts
Ah! I see what
Dean Kamen announces his all singing, all dancing, water purifying, power
generating Stirling engine system...
http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news4.24.08d.html
Having missed the recent hydrino thread, let me add
one observation (which is almost as redundant as some
of Randy's 'ground states')
The good news: this recently peer reviewed and
published paper shows convincing calorimetry evidence
of excess power from hydrogen (OU).
Water Bath Calorimetry on
See:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/109/story/142906.html
Quotes:
Pennacchio, Andrews push energy issues
TRENTON - With escalating gasoline and energy costs, two of New
Jersey's five U.S. Senate candidates have made the cost of powering
our lives an issue in the upcoming election.
The SCiB is finally in production:
http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/sic/english/scib/index3.htm
*And* they have the guts to list BEV and PHEV as applications.
Terry
- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having missed the recent hydrino thread, let me add
one observation (which is almost as redundant as some
of Randy's 'ground states')
The good news: this recently peer reviewed and
published paper shows convincing calorimetry
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:28:56 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
But thermal energy is actual kinetic energy isn't it, so it doesn't resolve
the dilemma.
There is no dilemma to resolve.
Infinite times a short (but finite) period of time would be infinite... no,
this is
In reply to Nick Palmer's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:14:01 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
The sad fact is that serious environmental efforts quietly applied
behind the scenes are just ignored by the forces we have to contend with who
just hire very smart, very well paid, but morally bankrupt people who
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:25:12 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
The SCiB is finally in production:
http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/sic/english/scib/index3.htm
High power density even equal to that of a capacitor
Unfortunately capacitors have lousy power density.
Regards,
Robin
Forgive my obstinacy Robin, but admitting the proper frame should be the CMF,
shouldn't this be the CMF of all particles involved, i.e. including those of
the Pd anvil? After all, the target is not really D, but Pd(n)D, isn't it?
And who is Charles Cagle?
hand waving mode: quite appropriate
Jones wrote: the excess power... is only 28.5% more than the input power
But Jones, 28.5%, if verified, would be a revolution. Even 2.85%!
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: Re:
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:37:48 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Forgive my obstinacy Robin, but admitting the proper frame should be the CMF,
shouldn't this be the CMF of all particles involved, i.e. including those of
the Pd anvil? After all, the target is not really D, but
But the moment right before dislodgement, when the deuteron pair experiences
considerable deceleration, is precisely when we would expect fusion isn't it?
So I still believe we must use the CMF of the whole system under study. Similar
to a hammer-nut-anvil system, if we leave the anvil out of
In these experiments, BLP measures the power into the cell and the developed
heat by water bath calorimetry. Basically, the cell is submerged in an
insulated fishtank with precision thermometry and a stirrer. This
demonstrates an effect but there is not enough power gain to close the
loop and
Demonstrating an overunity effect, and having it replicated, should be all that
matters for them at this point. Closing the loop would be better of course, but
not indispensable, and of course would require at least 1000% excess.
I am sure Ed would be happy with a reproducible 28.5% excess,
Indeed, the SCiB specs here
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_12/pr1101.htm indicate ~20 Kg/kWh,
so that a 50kWh battery (energy claimed by EESTOR) would weigh ~1000Kg
(instead of 50Kg claimed by EESTOR IIRC)
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL
BLP has many papers demonstrating an OU effect by this definition. It [water
bath calorimetry] has been witnessed by non-BLP scientists, including a team
from Rowan University in connection with a project for NASA. Phillips, the
senior author on the referenced paper, is a Distinguished
Good point, I think you're right Stephen, but they probably want people to get
it wrong, as I did too, because in fact they don't have a good _energy_
density, see my previous post in this thread and actual tech specs at the
bottom of:
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2007_12/pr1101.htm
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:57:05 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
But the moment right before dislodgement, when the deuteron pair experiences
considerable deceleration, is precisely when we would expect fusion isn't it?
So I still believe we must use the CMF of the whole
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:04:22 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
High power density even equal to that of a capacitor
Unfortunately capacitors have lousy power density.
Not exactly; capacitors have lousy ENERGY density. Energy isn't power,
of course, but sloppy
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:04:22 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
performance. The illustration is here:
http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/sic/english/scib/image/feature3.gif
The plot makes it clear that what they're saying is that their /energy/
density is that of a battery,
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