[Vo]:Colbert interviews Lutz about Volt

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Strange! See: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/185021/september-17-2008/bob-lutz Lutz is amazing guy. A GM exec from central casting. He honestly does not believe in global warming. Wattaguy! I suppose Cheney doesn't believe in global warming either. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rick Monteverde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, so I Google on "refinery" + "permits". Floods the browser with "EPA.. > environmentalist groups ... EPA ...environmentalist groups ... Right. And do you think that Cheney pays any attention to environmentalist groups? Who do you think makes energy

RE: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Rick Monteverde
Even Nick Palmer wrote: >>.. Actually it was environmentalists Thanks, that was my point. Why they do it is another subject. - Rick

RE: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Rick Monteverde
Jed - >> You seem to believe some widespread propaganda regarding oil and energy. >> I suggest you read some books about the subject written by experts who >> have no political agenda, such as Deffeyes. Also, I suggest you spend some >> time reviewing the data at the Energy Information Adminis

[Vo]:dolphins blowing bubble rings

2008-09-19 Thread Harry Veeder
This link was sent to me by my sister. I don't know who wrote the comment. Harry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMCf7SNUb-Q&feature=related When you spend your life in the water, I guess you tend to develop a good intuition for its subtleties. Dolphins have been observed to create bubble rings by

Re: [Vo]:Citizendium article pretty good

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: Under explanations, I see no mention of Hydrinos, except perhaps indirectly in number 4? "Creation of clusters of deuterons that interact as units". Ed wrote that section. I do not know enough about Hydrinos to write about them with confidence. Heck, I do not know

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:09:18 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I'm also afraid that the Li battery might be a wet dream but not for >the scarcity of the element. Lithium battery charge efficiency is >quite poor above 90 deg F. And where are we gonna charge our Volts? >Maybe

Re: [Vo]:Citizendium article pretty good

2008-09-19 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:46:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I have expanded and improved this from the original draft by Storms. >(Perhaps Ed would not agree that I improved it! Actually I did not >change the parts he wrote). See: > >http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Cold_fus

RE: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rick Monteverde wrote: >> No responsible fossil fuel industry experts or decision-makers disagree with these laws. So oil industry experts and decision makers agree with the offshore drilling ban, for instance? Well, they say they do. Anyway, they are not running out of places to drill. This

[Vo]:Citizendium article pretty good

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have expanded and improved this from the original draft by Storms. (Perhaps Ed would not agree that I improved it! Actually I did not change the parts he wrote). See: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Cold_fusion If this were Wikipedia someone would have come and trashed everything I have writ

RE: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Rick Monteverde
Jed - >> No responsible fossil fuel industry experts or decision-makers disagree with these laws. So oil industry experts and decision makers agree with the offshore drilling ban, for instance? Do they agree with this new phony-Pelosi drill-'em-where-they-aint law? Or do they agree that the perm

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Nick Palmer
John Steck shot a load of stuff from the hip... <> Oh dear, I didn't realise that according to John, the kind of neo-con thinking that got us into the various messes we're in, or about to be in - Climate change, peak oil, global financial meltdown and global overpopulation was what was neede

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - Original Message >> From: Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Someone is buying energy for one and half cents per kWh? Where? >> >> >> >> In Lutz's dreams? > > I'm also afraid that t

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Terry Blanton > Lithium battery charge efficiency is quite poor above 90 deg F. And where > are we gonna charge our Volts? Maybe not in the hot garage in Phoenix. Speaking of hot batteries, Terry ... you may have seen this older story: http://pepei.pennnet.

RE: [Vo]:Clever air motor

2008-09-19 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
That seems very similar to the Norge Rollator compressor from very old refrigerators. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Clever air motor >From Thomas: > I'm really impressed w

Re: [VO]: Guess who's coming to dinner?

2008-09-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Naked shorting -- Reminds me of cold weather streaking in my college days. :-) Terry

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message > From: Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Someone is buying energy for one and half cents per kWh? Where? > > > > In Lutz's dreams? I'm also afraid that the Li battery might be a wet dream bu

Re: [VO]: Guess who's coming to dinner?

2008-09-19 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
R C Macaulay wrote: > Howdy Vorts, > > Let's see if I have this right,.. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer asked > the SEC to prevent " nekkid short selling" of financial stocks to > prevent further meltdown? So who's the guys doing it ? Not me ..said > Wall Street.. look in your own back yard, Na

RE: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rick Monteverde wrote: >> environmentalists have no influence over oil companies. You're making a joke here, right? I meant during the Bush administration. Then who was it behind implementing all our laws reflecting environmental concerns re pipelines & transport, available drilling locat

RE: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Rick Monteverde
Jed - >> environmentalists have no influence over oil companies. You're making a joke here, right? Then who was it behind implementing all our laws reflecting environmental concerns re pipelines & transport, available drilling locations offshore and otherwise, refinery locations, construction an

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Chevy Volt and the Electric Grid: Drive 15,000 Miles for $73 ... if this were true (which it isn't) the average buyer could save about $2,200 per year . . . As Terry pointed out, it is likely to be more like $500. But that is only $427 more; the average buyer saves $1,77

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Someone is buying energy for one and half cents per kWh? Where? In Lutz's dreams? Awkshully, the most effective part of any viral marketing campaign... [Jon-Stewartesque-pause] ... is to troll out an unrealistic number,

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Terry Blanton
Horse biscuits! 15,000 miles driven at 60 miles per hour takes 250 hours. If it takes 20 kW to push the Volt down the road that is 5000 kWh. At an average of $0.10 per kWh, that's $500. Someone is buying energy for one and half cents per kWh? Where? Terry On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jo

Re: [Vo]:Quote

2008-09-19 Thread Jones Beene
Fantastic ! Except did we not elect into the highest office in the land, the "menace"? ... matter of fact, W kinda reminds one of Dennis (metaphorically) Ruff, ruff - Original Message From: John Steck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "I divide my officers into four classes; the clever, the

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jones Beene
Today's headline - from the Volt page: Chevy Volt and the Electric Grid: Drive 15,000 Miles for $73 ... if this were true (which it isn't) the average buyer could save about $2,200 per year - if she never used the onboard engine (which is possible, but not likely). If the lease on the volt h

[Vo]:Quote

2008-09-19 Thread John Steck
"I divide my officers into four classes; the clever, the lazy, the industrious, and the stupid. Each officer possesses at least two of these qualities. Those who are clever and industrious are fitted for the highest staff appointments. Use can be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man w

[Vo]:Lichen movie

2008-09-19 Thread Horace Heffner
I posted a repeating 3 frame movie of lichen on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O68Xop-WpM Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars

2008-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Steck wrote: The grand irony is I believe the enviro-fascists are the biggest culprits who keep us locked into this dependency mode. They have successfully prevented developing any/all domestic production capacity of any kind for over 30 years. I have news for you John: environmentalis

Re: [Vo]:International talk like a pirate day

2008-09-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On this side of the pond: http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ Terry On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Remi Cornwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tex, when is anyone going to walk the plank? > > > > I'll be out for a few hours doing the mixed funding route so I'll be offline > for a bit. Private inves

Re: [Vo]:Clever air motor

2008-09-19 Thread OrionWorks
>From Thomas: > I'm really impressed with this design. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8aZVLpf-c > > Pretty neat. As an alternative approach to compressed air I wonder if one could us

Re: [Vo]:meltdown

2008-09-19 Thread Terry Blanton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:54 PM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Macaulay posted > >>Talk about conspiracy theories. We are watching the >largest bank robbery >> in history and nobody believes it is >contrived. > > Michael Savage of

[VO]: Guess who's coming to dinner?

2008-09-19 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, Let's see if I have this right,.. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer asked the SEC to prevent " nekkid short selling" of financial stocks to prevent further meltdown? So who's the guys doing it ? Not me ..said Wall Street.. look in your own back yard, Nancy girl. The guys managing t

RE: [Vo]:International talk like a pirate day

2008-09-19 Thread Remi Cornwall
Tex, when is anyone going to walk the plank? I'll be out for a few hours doing the mixed funding route so I'll be offline for a bit. Private investment lined up need half from gov. which is just really a tax break for high tech start ups. I'd like to make a "bettery" with the TEC. I'm sure phas

RE: [Vo]:GM Chevy Volt at CalCars, undercap engines, more charging points

2008-09-19 Thread Remi Cornwall
> When an automobile engine is place in a boat, it is grossly *de-rated*. That's the whole point, **people aren't angels**. Their driving habits and general nature require them to have over 100bhp in reserve to get them out of trouble etc. The CEO on the Tesla motor site put it best - "nobody want

Re: [Vo]:International talk like a pirate day

2008-09-19 Thread R C Macaulay
Hey Remi, LIke a cheap Carnival booth, these play acting pirates are amateur compared to the pirate booths down the boardwalk a way .. ya gotta see the bunch called the Fed , and the one directly across called the FDIC. and don't miss the AIG.. Ah heck .. ya can't miss 'em if you just going t

[Vo]:International talk like a pirate day

2008-09-19 Thread Remi Cornwall
Ah ha! avarst! pieces of eight! walk the plank! http://www.yarr.org.uk/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX61PUZ3xkI