Again I didn't conceal or lie by omission.
I said from the start that there is more and there was.
My reasons for not giving it all at the start makes sense and was given.
Also no results were distorted you must have misunderstood me.
Rather a means for the electrons to do what was claimed was
John Berry wrote: For something genius, watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj-x9ygQEGA
I can second this - it's very funny. It's a literal interpretation (you'll see
what I mean) of Bonnie Tyler's Total Eclipse of the Heart video. I suspect
Cold Fusion powers the eyes of the choir...
Nick
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote:
Tesla in US patent 685,958 describes how an insulated copper plate can
absorb such energetic charges from the environment (seemingly from the sun)
Build one, and you'll find that he accidentally discovered the
Photoelectric effect, where ultraviolet light
I am going to make a more complete reply, but if the only things that
existed were things I had done then this world would be a lot smaller than
it is and many things people take foregranted would not exist.
But assuming I did do all of those things where would we be? Still no where
as there are 6
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jones Beenejone...@pacbell.net wrote:
…only some clerk accidentally mistyped a date that was off by one year,
somewhere in transposing the Hubbert’s curve database to the program ;-)
ROFL! The $10B fat-fingered foul-up. Good one.
Terry
1: Teslas Radiant Receiver
I did not pick up on the fact that it was a positive charge that the plate
collected, the Barbat patent suggested otherwise and it seems I didn't
notice.
Never the less he does specify that a capacitor with unusually high quality
must be used.
Of course this does not
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/06/23/tesla.electric.cars/index.html
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
I support electric car development. But it irks me to see the
government will spend this kind of money on a luxury car, but they
won't spend $400,000 on cold fusion.
- Jed
but the tesla sedan isnt a luxury car
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I support electric car development. But it irks me to see the government
will spend this kind of money on a luxury car, but they won't spend $400,000
on cold fusion.
- Jed
Hi
I read on Wikipedia that it is impossible to set up a voltage difference in
a superconductor. This means that in a very long superconductor a change of
voltage in one end would be noticed immediately in the other end. It seems
like an infinite speed of light.
Could this be used to speed up
Esa Ruoho wrote:
but the tesla sedan isnt a luxury car
Ah, is that so? It doesn't say that in this article. The other Tesla
cars are high-end luxury vehicles.
Several Japanese car companies are hustling to bring electric
vehicles to market, and some are already selling, as I mentioned
John:
Sorry, I was NOT thinking of you when I wrote that...
-Mark
_
From: John Berry [mailto:aethe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:14 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links
Again I didn't conceal or lie by omission.
I said from the start
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Esa Ruoho wrote:
but the tesla sedan isnt a luxury car
Ah, is that so? It doesn't say that in this article. The other Tesla cars
are high-end luxury vehicles.
The Obama Administration will lend Tesla Motors $465
Terry sez:
…only some clerk accidentally mistyped a date that was off
by one year, somewhere in transposing the Hubbert’s curve
database to the program ;-)
ROFL! The $10B fat-fingered foul-up. Good one.
Blame it on Achebald Buttle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(film)
Regards
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Esa Ruohoesaru...@gmail.com wrote:
its for 5 persons and it seems to be below 50k usd
Actually it will seat 7 with two kids in the rumble seat:
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/index.php
I think the $50k is for the 160 mile battery. I suspect it will be
Ackshully it was a bug. A real bug.
The loss was a lot more than $10B if you include the potential gains.
Terry
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, OrionWorkssvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry sez:
…only some clerk accidentally mistyped a date that was off
by one year, somewhere in
Terry sez:
its for 5 persons and it seems to be below 50k usd
Actually it will seat 7 with two kids in the rumble seat:
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/index.php
I think the $50k is for the 160 mile battery. I suspect it will be
~$70k with the 300 mile battery.
Fifty k... shmifty k.
Tesla is first to market and is getting the worm. BYD (Warren
Buffet's recent infatuation) from China will level the playing field.
But soon, everyone will be in the pool and you'll see $15K electrics
in six years.
But, can you afford the Tesla? Have you ever run the true cost of
ownership for
John, doesn't Bill's great advice below make any sense to you?
don't suspect weirdness and certainly don't leap to
accept its reality unless there really is no other possible explanation.
If you do, you'll waste your life chasing the 99% crap, and never manage
to see past the illusory weirdness
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote:
No, none of what I present is Absolute Proof but surely we should not fail
to investigate something simply because it MAY turn out to be wrong.
If you aren't sitting at your kitchen table building some simple circuits
yourself ...then you yourself are
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, David Jonsson wrote:
Hi
I read on Wikipedia that it is impossible to set up a voltage difference in
a superconductor.
WP is wrong. It's impossible to set up a DC voltage difference.
If you wave a magnet near a superconductor, and its electron-sea
starts flowing in
Hi William,
Please elaborate on the Meissner effect vs. just 0 ohms. I understood that
superconductors reject magnetic fields entirely in a different way than just
induced currents.
thanks,
Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com
Terry Blanton wrote:
Tesla is first to market and is getting the worm.
Maybe not. Lots of computer companies beat IBM to the personal
computer market, such as Cromemco and Northstar. See:
http://www.old-computers.com
Tesla is hoping to open a niche market selling to wealthy people.
Some
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote:
By finding a strong thread of correlation however can confirm even the most
spotty evidence.
Here's the critical question.
Which experiments have you personally performed in your own garage/kitchen?
(( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) )
On Jun 24, 2009, at 12:28 PM, William Beaty wrote:
Here's something I've been meaning to test. I expect that it's
real, and
would get the experimenter some fame: Marinov's ball-bearing motor.
http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/bbmotor.html. The othodox concensus is
that it's driven by thermal
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
From: William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:28 PM
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, John Berry
wrote:
If something interests you, then test it.
Hi John !
I agree with Bill's suggestions of self-devil-advocating, and that we should do
the experiments ourselves- that is IF we have the space, money, time, and we
are skilled.. but we also need a forum where we can read the ideas of folks
like yourself who are well-read in the alt
Oh, and I totally failed to replicate that ball bearing motor thing, but it
does work.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Kyle Mcallister
kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.comwrote:
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
From: William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hiddink
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:25 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote:
By finding a strong thread of correlation however can confirm even the
most
spotty evidence.
Here's the critical question.
Which experiments have you personally performed in
Oops. Oh my goodness!
I just realized I inadvertently insulted Jones by suggesting that's ALL he did.
I know for a fact that is definitely not true. Jones connects dots AND does
experiments.
PS: speaking of experiments, one of the reasons I rarely post to Vo, is because
I rarely do any
One day I bet you'll be a hundredaire!
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Kyle Mcallister
kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.comwrote:
Finally we can buy GALINSTAN gallium-based liquid metal
from scitoys.com)
I'd buy some, but I am a multi-dollar industry.
--Kyle
Is it 20 v or 20v?
Anyway yeah the spurious resolution thing is annoying.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
While you folks are doing experiments in your kitchen, I am translating a
paper from Japanese in my office. From each according to his abilities
2009/6/24 Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Michel Jullian michelj...@gmail.com wrote:
Kyle, nice work as always. Couldn't the plate (the support
of the net
charge) be simply the inside surface of the glass tube, and
the plasma
be just the conducting wire
seriously, did everyone NOT get drilled on significant digits in measurements?
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM, John Berryaethe...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it 20 v or 20v?
Anyway yeah the spurious resolution thing is annoying.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
I recalled another one, but it is a tad speculative.
Chauncy J. Britten has a patent with a lot of this current flowing along
magnetic fields thing going on.
And while there isn't any proof that he had any open circuit currents DC
currents it is worth noting that he has a battery in series with
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote:
It is not fun admitting that you are rubbish at something, but there you
have it.
Ah, that was the missing piece!
Welcome to vortex-L, where every single one of us is mentally damaged in
some way. Some of us are fairly good at hiding it during our day
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Michel Jullian michelj...@gmail.com wrote:
Or it could be that in both cases the capacitance remains
constant
(defined by the dielectric material, area and thickness),
and the
decrease in frequency is due to the increase in resistance
of the
resistor + plasma series
Typically Asperger's Syndrome tempered with a bit of lysdexia.
:-)
Terry
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM, William Beatybi...@eskimo.com wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote:
It is not fun admitting that you are rubbish at something, but there you
have it.
Ah, that was the missing
V and John,
1.2kVDC and 4kV, eh? No problem.
Did find: old microwave oven. Transformer still works, lower wattage oven so
safer output. 120VAC to 2kVAC transformer. Plan to send this to a 2 stage
multiplier, as I have about a hundred 6kV diodes on hand and nice capacitors
rated for this
Be careful, they are more dangerous than neon sign transformers for
instance, you probably know that but...
That's a lot of HV diodes!
I appreciate your expectation that nothing will happen, it is better to
be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Kyle
Good observation Bill. The magnetic field is completely expelled from a
superconductor. Uo=zero
The electric field is completely confined. e0 = infintie The range and strength
of the two fields is a function
dimensions of the superconductor.
As you stated Bill, a static field induces a
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Colin Quinney wrote:
I calculated that in an average alt physics forum
of 1000 members, perhaps only three or four people are doing any real
experiments, at least from those who are posting. Vortex may be the
exception, but Bill is correct. I am also guilty. I have tried
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Terry Blanton wrote:
Typically Asperger's Syndrome tempered with a bit of lysdexia.
Intentionally Uberman-induced bipolar religious-visionary multiple-
personality hypo-schitzophrenia! :) These flashing lights, the Black
Flame, the sun goes down without actually moving,
I don't think this post is squarely directed at me or accusing me of such
but as it could be interpreted as an accusation I have replied as if it
were...
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Colin Quinney wrote:
I calculated that in an
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