The Steorn Demo RIG - jpeg and PDF format. check it.
http://www.steorn.com/demo/rig/
also something:
http://www.steorn.com/demo/
Visit Steorn's Orbo technology demonstration at the Waterways Ireland
Visitor Centre in Dublin What we're doing
We are delighted to announce the live demonstration of
http://www.steorn.com/images/rig01.pdf
*Latest Steorn Press Release*
Steorn is pleased to announce that public demonstrations of its
controversial Orbo technology will begin today in Dublin and continue for
the next six weeks.
Orbo technology, which has been in development for six years, provides free,
clean and constant energy at
On 12/15/2009 07:45 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
http://www.steorn.com/images/rig01.pdf
So there's a battery in it.
So, it's not self-running; it runs from battery power.
So, what is it supposed to be, exactly?
yeah, thats what all the dogjaws on twitter are harping on and on about.
perpetual nonsense powered by a battery. there has got to be a reason why
they just show it directly. i hope we'll figure out why eventually. i
understand that the WITTS delay line generator, for instance, requires
batteries
to see the shit-storm: http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23steorn
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:
yeah, thats what all the dogjaws on twitter are harping on and on about.
perpetual nonsense powered by a battery. there has got to be a reason why
they just show
So... if the generator recharges the battery, then why not just
disconnect the battery and run the thing with the power from the
generator?
I think it's a crock...
Craig (Houston)
This is the eternal argument, and the last one that people come up
with. There appears to be an imbalance that the battery-fed circuit
gets from the battery, that the circuit balances out and some of the
balancing reaction is tapped for doing work. Most of these start as
energysavings and
See:
http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspicks/2009/12/opinion-scientific-integrity.html
Dr. H. Frederick Dylla, Executive Director and CEO of the American
Institute of Physics (AIP) wrote here that: such concepts as
polywater, cold fusion, andhuman clones are examples of scientific
... Let's see what their (Steorn's) reasons are for requiring a
battery. If it really is transformation that they're tapping, they'll have
to explain away the battery-requirement like a bunch of adults. Of course
theyll be mocked for having a battery by anyone who believes they're doing
Its explained in the YouTube video,
Steorn Orbo Technology Launch 2009
The lower two rotors are a motor with PMs on the rotors and small coils
(electromagnets?) on the
stator. The EMs obviously require some DC electricity. The topmost rotor is a
small generator which
produces AC. To charge
Sterling D. Allan weighs in. (or something).
http://pesn.com/2009/12/15/9501594_Steorn_demos_e-Orbo/
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Its explained in the YouTube video,
Steorn Orbo Technology Launch 2009
The lower two rotors are a motor with PMs on
Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked up to a
light bulb. Hell! If the thing was doing nothing more than powering a
couple of energy efficient LEDs, for several weeks straight, now THAT
would impress me more than the current battery recharging
configuration.
For me,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JikYfmEdF8
Steorn Orbo Technology Launch 2009
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:31 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked up to a
light bulb.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/emergingtech/0,100183,39938307,00.htm
At 10:53 AM 12/15/2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
We on this list, are indeed patient, but there are smoothing circuits
and capacitors which could take the power from the generator and turn
it into the equilibrium of a battery.
Craig (Houston)
That's what I thought of immediately. A nice big fat
Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked up to a
light bulb. Hell! If the thing was doing nothing more than powering a
couple of energy efficient LEDs, for several weeks straight, now THAT
would impress me more than the current battery recharging
configuration.
The battery is
At 12:35 PM 12/15/2009, Mark Iverson wrote:
Its explained in the YouTube video,
Steorn Orbo Technology Launch 2009
The lower two rotors are a motor with PMs on the rotors and small
coils (electromagnets?) on the
stator. The EMs obviously require some DC electricity. The topmost
rotor is a
From Craig:
Personally, I just wish the damned contraption was hooked
up to a light bulb. Hell! If the thing was doing nothing
more than powering a couple of energy efficient LEDs, for
several weeks straight, now THAT would impress me more than
the current battery recharging
The battery is puzzling, but they do not hide it, so I do not see how
it could be part of a scam.
Mark Iverson wrote:
so it should be easy to demonstrate that this thing could be kept
running for weeks, months when it should draw down the battery in a
matter of days...
Hours, not days.
On 12/15/2009 01:53 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 10:53 AM 12/15/2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
We on this list, are indeed patient, but there are smoothing circuits
and capacitors which could take the power from the generator and turn
it into the equilibrium of a battery.
Craig (Houston)
The author has now allowed a few comments, although not mine. He
still claims that cold fusion was mistaken.
- Jed
On 12/15/2009 02:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The battery is puzzling, but they do not hide it, so I do not see how it
could be part of a scam.
Mark Iverson wrote:
so it should be easy to demonstrate that this thing could be kept
running for weeks, months when it should draw down the battery
At 01:37 PM 12/15/2009, Esa Ruoho wrote:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/emergingtech/0,100183,39938307,00.htm
From that page:
The device is powered by a large 10,000 mAH 1.2v nickel metal
hydride rechargeable battery. Steorn says that this is recharged by
the device itself, but has not
It's a freakin' Bedini motor.
Geeze.
I wrote:
It would be nice to have some definite indication of how much, by
putting a mechanical load on it. Something like a miniature de Prony brake.
I mean that since the machine produces mechanical motion, it makes
sense to measure that directly, rather than -- say -- converting it
to
On 12/15/2009 02:04 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'm not going to reject Steorn just because it flies in the face of
solidly established theory, and it certainly does that far more than
cold fusion -- which really just contradicted a poverty of imagination,
not actual conservation of
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Hours, not days. Toys that operate with D batteries run out in an hour
or so.
Wrong comparison. D-cell powered toys are typically doing
significant work. On the other hand, small induction motors that do
nothing but rotate do *not* run down a small battery in an
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
In the case of Steorn, one company is claiming that all physicists for the
past century or so have been befuddled over the way magnets work; only the
folks at Steorn really understand it, and we should believe them (and
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
The correct comparison here might actually be to compare Steorn with
one (hypothetical) researcher who claims that all of the positive CF
results can be explained away by the results of one experiment he's
done, and the theory he constructed based on it. Would you
I wrote:
The correct comparison here might actually be to compare Steorn
with one (hypothetical) researcher who claims that all of the
positive CF results can be explained away by the results of one
experiment he's done . . .
That would be Kirk Shanahan. Real, not hypothetical.
Also
On 12/15/2009 02:56 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote:
In the case of Steorn, one company is claiming that all physicists for the
past century or so have been befuddled over the way magnets work; only the
folks at Steorn really
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Is there any evidence that they're not a scam?
Well . . . the fact that they publish what appears to be a full
schematic and it includes the battery is weak evidence that they
believe what they say. Scammers hide the details. Assuming it does
not work, a
[Here is another message I wrote to some well known cold fusion researchers.]
Edmund Storms wrote:
Apparently, the only information that impresses him is what he
observed. He seems unable to evaluate the huge amount of information
obtained by other people. Hopefully, he now has a reason to
On 12/15/2009 03:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Is there any evidence that they're not a scam?
Well . . . the fact that they publish what appears to be a full
schematic and it includes the battery is weak evidence that they believe
what they say. Scammers hide the
Jed, I'm on a channel where a person who's a member of the SPDC or
SKDC or whatever its called nowadays,talks every once in a while, and
he remarked this about the rig-exploded-view:
The rig explosion doesn't give everything
eg. the kind of windings, the metrics, the magnet orientation
So there's
Hi,
If the H atom electron is seen as a ring and this ring is allowed to vibrate
along it's axis, then for small oscillation amplitudes the natural frequency of
oscillation is the same as the rotational frequency of the ring. However if the
axial oscillation is forced to a sub-harmonic, then the
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
They're trying to suck in people who don't understand why their
claims are totally outrageous, nor why their demos actually do
nothing to support their claims.
I agree they are suspicious, and they give a bad name to magnet motor
o-u research -- which is a
I wrote:
That depends. If he is making a lot of money and enjoying high
status then he may be lying. But if he has invested his life savings
in the oil, and destroyed his marriage, and he is one step away from
being a homeless bum then I assume he believes it.
Along similar lines, consider
http://www.steorn.com/demo/
Apparently the demo is open to the public each day from 10am to 7pm
after 7pm do they replace the battery? ;-)
harry
- Original Message
From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009
You may very well be right, Jed, and I just have too jaundiced a view of
humanity. However, I had one further comment on the stupidity versus
maliciousness issue.
On 12/15/2009 04:54 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
[ ... ]
It's exactly like the Newman motor, which had
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
When the issue of Newman's motor came up on this list, and I
asserted that their comparisons were meaningless because they didn't
measure input and output power, I received a number of extremely
obnoxious, and ultimately highly insulting, emails from a
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Matching lattice spacings may be at least one reason why CF is so
temperamental One of the lattice spacings of Zr4.28Zn0.9Ge3 is a very
close match to the x-ray wavelength required for H[n=1/9]. At level 9, the
fusion time for DD fusion
From Mr. Lawrence:
...
This is not the behavior of someone [Newman] who is confused or ignorant.
A confused, ignorant person who didn't quite understand what he was doing
would not see the need to dodge the trap in the question, what is the
output power?. An honest person would try,
At 02:50 PM 12/15/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 12/15/2009 02:04 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'm not going to reject Steorn just because it flies in the face of
solidly established theory, and it certainly does that far more than
cold fusion -- which really just contradicted a
At 02:55 PM 12/15/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Hours, not days. Toys that operate with D batteries run out in an hour
or so.
Wrong comparison. D-cell powered toys are typically doing
significant work. On the other hand, small induction motors that
do nothing but
At 02:58 PM 12/15/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
The correct comparison here might actually be to compare Steorn
with one (hypothetical) researcher who claims that all of the
positive CF results can be explained away by the results of one
experiment he's done, and the
At 03:01 PM 12/15/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Also Yoshiaki Arata. He claims that all other experiments in this
field are mistaken, and only his results are valid.
He and I don't get along well because he says things like that.
Yeah, it puts me off my feed, too. He's going to die, as we all
At 10:33 AM 12/15/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The AIP published a textbook by Marwan and Krivit. Some researchers
feel they should not tell Dylla this, because he might take steps to
cancel the next AIP session on cold fusion, or prevent publication
of the book. I wrote to them:
No, Jed, that
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
The Bedini motor had a fan on it, which would presumably create some drag
so that's certainly more interesting if it actually ran for years.
Did it? Well, how many of these are there and how many have
As a Steorn Non Disclosure Agreement signatory and knowledgeable insider, I
have a few comments:
The energy in the battery does not go to the kinetic energy of the rotor, it
is used as an easy way to modify some
parameters of the device. Steorn does have all permanent magnet motors ( so
they
If the battery is being used for control electronics then it is reasonable.
It should not be difficult to confirm that is its purpose.
There is no harm is reserving judgement and leaving open the possibility
that the gadget is real. If it is not real, a million people will pile on to
the
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:06:28 -0800:
Hi Jones,
[snip]
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
Matching lattice spacings may be at least one reason why CF is so
temperamental One of the lattice spacings of Zr4.28Zn0.9Ge3 is a very
close match to
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