Re: [Vo]:NyTecnik discussion translated into English

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:32 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:28:04 -0900: Hi, [snip] Ni has roughly the following isotopes/percentages:- Ni-58 68% Ni-60 26% Ni-611% Ni-624% Ni-641% If 30% of the Ni is converted to copp

[Vo]:Joshua Cude, can you assess Robert E. Godes, Brillouin Energy Corp. energy claims and theory? Rich Murray 2011.02.27

2011-02-27 Thread Rich Murray
Joshua Cude, can you assess Robert E. Godes, Brillouin Energy Corp. energy claims and theory? Rich Murray 2011.02.27 Brillouin Energy Corporation (BEC) technology uses the hydrogen in ordinary water in a nuclear process that produces no hazardous waste. [ H2 on Ni exposed to high power impulse cur

Re: [Vo]:NyTecnik discussion translated into English

2011-02-27 Thread Rich Murray
In Sweden, Sven Kullander and Hanno Essén have a positive slant on Rossi device, with Mats Lewan 2011.02.23 nyteknik.se http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article324.ece Större text Cold Fusion: “You have to embrace this” Av: Mats Lewan Publicerad 23 februari 2011 13:551 komm

Re: [Vo]:Hidden wire hypothesis redux

2011-02-27 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/27/2011 08:55 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Jed and Stephen, > > > > > - Original Message > >> From: Stephen A. Lawrence >> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >> Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 1:08:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hidden wire hypothesis redux >> >> >> >> On 02/25/2011 09:19 PM, Harry

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/27/2011 08:37 PM, Jones Beene wrote: >> nor any evidence that he even used Raney nickel ... >> > > Whoa. Not sure where that comment came from, but it indicates that the > commenter has not followed Rossi's story very closely. > > In fact, there were two fires in New Hampshire at his l

Re: [Vo]:Hidden wire hypothesis redux

2011-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: > > evidence is not relevant in this case; only if they can show that > > fixed-geometry systems with an electrostatic charge spontaneously warm > > up can they claim that something is "doing work". > > That is like saying it can't be cold fusion because > there are no gamma

Re: [Vo]:Hidden wire hypothesis redux

2011-02-27 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed and Stephen, - Original Message > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 1:08:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hidden wire hypothesis redux > > > > On 02/25/2011 09:19 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > Jed Rothwell wrote: > >  > >> The worst exam

Re: [Vo]:Resend: The 'magic' of pycno

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The palladium reactions we are interested in would involve pycno in the magic number of 8 nucleons, and the putative reaction might result in three magic nuclear rearrangements; and with more net stability (lower enthalpy) than before, and als

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Jones Beene
> nor any evidence that he even used Raney nickel ... Whoa. Not sure where that comment came from, but it indicates that the commenter has not followed Rossi's story very closely. In fact, there were two fires in New Hampshire at his lab during the period when he was working on the TEG, circa 2

[Vo]:Fusione fredda

2011-02-27 Thread Harry Veeder
Italian source: http://forum.corriere.it/ambiente_e_clima/21-02-2011/fusione-fredda-1703915.html   Italian to English google translation: Cold Fusion Recently, in Bologna, there was a demonstration of energy production probably from nuclear-temperature environment. The result was a power output,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
Watch out for alibaba.com sellers!! Google (alibaba.com fraud) I almost ordered a bunch of Zr through them, until I saw some of the above. Apparently there is a new service available where they will hold your money until you notify them of receipt of the goods. Best regards, Horace Heffn

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, he did mention a gram of material. But he has shown no inclination to be helpful, open, or to want replication, nor an inclination to be precise, nor even to assert that he understands the reaction. His genius is a carefully thought-out plan to make himself very rich. Period. He has master

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Terry sez: > Well, it wasn't really a good movie. I think I just enjoyed Lorraine > Bracco when her shirt was soaked during the monsoons. :-) I must confess the fact that I actually enjoyed watching Medicine Man, even though the script needed better direction. Certain scenes were a bit awkward

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Dennis wrote: The size and shape looks more like PM Nickel to me: http://www.korea-nickel.co.kr/products/powders.asp and it seems more in keeping with what is listed in the patent as: Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan I don't see them making Raney nickel. Dennis

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Mark Iverson
But hasn't Rossi said repeatedly that his reactor only uses about a gram of Ni??? Although, I don't remember a timeframe for that figure.. Was it for an hour, a day or 6 months? -Mark -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 3:26

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Dennis wrote: I notice in Rossi's patents, he specifies the Nickel was from : [0094] Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan Has anyone here tried to find out what kinds of nickel they make. Carbonyl nickel? special alloys? Do they really make nano sized materials

Re: [Vo]:The 'magic' of pycno

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 27, 2011, at 11:19 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:47:53 -0900: Hi, [snip] A virtual neutron is a small neutral object comprising a proton and an electron with a mass less than that of a real neutron, that hasn't (yet?) un

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Foster
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Dennis wrote: From: Dennis Subject: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 12:22 PM I notice in Rossi's patents, he specifies the Nickel was from : [0094] Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan Has anyone here tried to find out wh

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > There is a good movie, Medicine Man, where Sean Connery is shown the > cure for cancer by a jungle shaman. Well, it wasn't really a good movie. I think I just enjoyed Lorraine Bracco when her shirt was soaked during the monsoons. :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > >> If Rossi named his source, using nickel from that source would seem to >> make sense for a replication. >> > > > I agree.  However, even people who bought their Pd from the sam

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Jones Beene
Dennis, There are so many inconsistencies with what Rossi has said, compared to what is mentioned in the patent, that it is hard to give the patent much credence... especially since it is poorly drafted to begin with. I look at it as a smoke-screen as much as anything. One thing is fairly clear h

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > If Rossi named his source, using nickel from that source would seem to > make sense for a replication. > I agree. However, even people who bought their Pd from the same source as F&P (Johnson Matthey?) had less success because there

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/27/2011 05:48 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Inactivated Raney powder from China is relatively cheap > > http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/267448753/Raney_nickel_serials_catalyzer_N > i_al.html > > Why not get kilograms, or tens of kg from there - and activate it in situ > using lye, inside your

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Jones Beene
Inactivated Raney powder from China is relatively cheap http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/267448753/Raney_nickel_serials_catalyzer_N i_al.html Why not get kilograms, or tens of kg from there - and activate it in situ using lye, inside your reactor itself, so it never needs to be exposed to air?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Dennis
The size and shape looks more like PM Nickel to me: http://www.korea-nickel.co.kr/products/powders.asp and it seems more in keeping with what is listed in the patent as: Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan I don't see them making Raney nickel. Dennis C -

RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Jones Beene
At the magnification used, this patent image is consistent with Raney nickel IMO. You can see that the globules have a lot of smaller nano features which would not be resolved without far greater magnification. Are not the globules consistent with this image? http://www.esrf.eu/Industry/case-stu

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Dennis
I notice in Rossi's patents, he specifies the Nickel was from : [0094] Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan Has anyone here tried to find out what kinds of nickel they make. Carbonyl nickel? special alloys? Do they really make nano sized materials or is it just nickel powders (like in the pate

Re: [Vo]:NyTecnik discussion translated into English

2011-02-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:28:04 -0900: Hi, [snip] >> Ni has roughly the following isotopes/percentages:- >> >> Ni-5868% >> Ni-6026% >> Ni-61 1% >> Ni-62 4% >> Ni-64 1% >> >> If 30% of the Ni is converted to copper over the l

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Dennis wrote: >> I notice in Rossi's patents, he specifies the Nickel was from : [0094] >> Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan >> >> Has anyone here tried to find out what kinds of nickel they make. >> Carbon

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Dennis wrote: > I notice in Rossi's patents, he specifies the Nickel was from : [0094] > Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan > > Has anyone here tried to find out what kinds of nickel they make. > Carbonyl nickel? special alloys? > Do they really make nano sized ma

Re: [Vo]:Gravity as an Electrostatic Force by Professor Gupta

2011-02-27 Thread Charles Hope
One wonders how this accounts for the curvature of light under the influence of gravity. Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 27, 2011, at 15:08, Ron Kita wrote: > Greetings Votrex-L: > > Possible: Gravity Modification or Gravitational Shielding ? > > There is an interesting paper by Professor R

Re: [Vo]:I have returned

2011-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Adam Cox wrote: After a long hiatus I am throwing myself back into the mainstream of fringe > science > Or the fringe of mainstream science. We can't decide! - Jed

[Vo]:I have returned

2011-02-27 Thread Adam Cox
After a long hiatus I am throwing myself back into the mainstream of fringe science Merlyn

Re: [Vo]:Yes, cold fusion is a fringe subject by the standards of Wikipedia

2011-02-27 Thread Charles Hope
There is no mathematical definition of fringe. A topic is fringe if the majority of scientists subjectively feel it is. Wikipedia is an excellent tool for judging such mass subjectivity. Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 27, 2011, at 11:29, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Let me add that we are talking a

[Vo]:Rossi's Nickel

2011-02-27 Thread Dennis
I notice in Rossi's patents, he specifies the Nickel was from : [0094] Powder nickel: Gerli Metalli--Milan Has anyone here tried to find out what kinds of nickel they make. Carbonyl nickel? special alloys? Do they really make nano sized materials or is it just nickel powders (like in the patent

Re: [Vo]:The 'magic' of pycno

2011-02-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:47:53 -0900: Hi, [snip] A virtual neutron is a small neutral object comprising a proton and an electron with a mass less than that of a real neutron, that hasn't (yet?) undergone a weak force reaction. It has the ability to closely appro

[Vo]:Gravity as an Electrostatic Force by Professor Gupta

2011-02-27 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Votrex-L: Possible: Gravity Modification or Gravitational Shielding ? There is an interesting paper by Professor R C Gupta : Gravity as a Secondary Electrostatic Force: http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0505/0505194.pdf Of special note: his acknowledgment of Dr Abdus Salam- a most i

[Vo]:I added to my blog

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Gluck
My Dear Friend, I have added to my Blog Ego-out http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com a) the first part of my Problem Solving methodology- "Can you guess the word?" b) The issue 444 of INFORMAVOREs SUNDAY- the continuation of my former search column of the INFO KAPPA Newsletter that I wrote between J

Re: [Vo]:Yes, cold fusion is a fringe subject by the standards of Wikipedia

2011-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Let me add that we are talking about two different definitions of "fringe" here. This is, in part, a dispute over semantics. Cude is quite right about what he calls "fringe" and I agree that is a valid use of the word. He is right that cold fusion fits that definition. However, I think that in th

[Vo]:Resend: The 'magic' of pycno

2011-02-27 Thread Jones Beene
Resend- with one specific example of a “magic number” applicable to LENR… The connection of magic numbers could involve palladium and nickel, plus dense hydrogen or pycno, as the inducer of the reaction. No surprise that Pd or Ni would be involved, but many permutations of the numbers-game are p

[Vo]:Yes, cold fusion is a fringe subject by the standards of Wikipedia

2011-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not want to beat this subject to death, but I would like to say what while I agree with Joshua Cude here, we have to make a subtle distinction: > And it’s not just Nature or SciAm. Science, all the APS journals, and most > others would regard cold fusion as fringe science. It doesn’t matter

Re: [Vo]:NyTecnik discussion translated into English

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:25 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:17:40 -0500: Hi, [snip] By a person, not Google translate: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article324.ece - Jed Ni has roughly the following isotopes/

Re: [Vo]:The 'magic' of pycno

2011-02-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:29 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:14:22 -0800: Hi Jones, [snip] Robin - When the proton (or hydrino) appears as a bound species - along with inherent negative charge, as happens with either pycno (or possibly wit