[Vo]:PhysOrg: Apr11,2011: Physicists discover new way to visualize warped space and time

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-physicists-visualize-warped-space.html Two doughnut-shaped vortexes ejected by a pulsating black hole. Also shown at the center are two red and two blue vortex lines attached to the hol

[Vo]:Rossi: 1MW plant in October, "I will also release the theory behind the Effect"

"‎"Dear Mr Paul Fernhout: Thank you for your insight. In October, with the start up of the 1 MW plant I will also release the theory behind the effect. Warm regards, A.R.""

[Vo]:77 septoes

It is my pleasure to tell you that my first Project at the blog Ego Out is completed- I have composed 77 septoes http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/04/first-project-completed-77-septoes.html If life continues, this action continues too- toward 100 Septoes first. My soul and thinking are expres

[Vo]:Fukushima now level 7, the highest level

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/japan-to-raise-rating-of-nuclear- crisis-to-highest-level/2011/04/11/AFxrFEND_story.html? wpisrc=nl_natlalert http://tinyurl.com/3mf27mb "... the plant, at one point after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, had been releasing 10,000 terabecquerels of

RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Some only want to see the worst in people... we're all a product of what we've gone thru in out lives. Unfortunately, its not all rosy... -Mark _ From: noone noone [mailto:thesteornpa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:43 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Ros

[Vo]:articles of interest...

>From PhysOrg.com. The first having to do with catalysts... "...researchers with the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)'s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) have created bilayered nanocrystals of a metal-metal oxide that are the first to feature multiple catalytic sites on nanoc

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to noone noone's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:36:54 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >I do not think he is lying about this. > >I think he is telling us the truth. > >The only downside is that even though the enrichment only costs 10% of the >cost >of the nickel the final amount of nickel fuel

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Jones Beene wrote: > And then, when carrying out this ruse – he gets caught in obvious lies - > instead of condemnation, you want to go easy on him because he does not > speak the English language very well ? > I have experienced worse misunderstandings and miscommunication with Arata in Engl

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:30:42 -0400: Hi, [snip] > > >On 04/11/2011 08:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: >> noone noone > > wrote: >> >> ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! >> >> >> Wow! That is a revelation. He _has_ learned from Piante

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:47:05 -0400: Hi, [snip] >A further consequence of the LENR evaluation leads to the ratios R (n) (n = >1, 2, 3…) of the Boltzmann probabilities, namely R (n) = 3n. This suggests >a threefold property of stable configurations at magic numbers i

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Jones Beene wrote: > HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. > > Ø It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does > sometimes make himself clear. > > > > Baloney. Where did he say this? > > > > Bologna? > He said in his blog many times, with statement

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Since I started this thread I would like to request that accusations against Andrea Rossi not be made in this thread. If you think he is lying please take such discussion to another thread. Lets focus on finding additional information and figuring out what catalysts he is using. __

RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

From: Jed Rothwell HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. * It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does sometimes make himself clear. Baloney. Where did he say this? Bologna? * I don't see anything untoward about it. Of course he doesn

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Axil Axil wrote: > Mae West : "Don't keep a man guessing too long--he's sure to find the > answer somewhere else." I love it! - Jed

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jones Beene wrote: > > >>HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. >> > It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does > sometimes make himself clear. > > I don't see anything untoward about it. Of c

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

I find it strange that the Swedes did not incorporate their isotopic analysis in their report. Harry > >From: Jed Rothwell >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 9:49:04 PM >Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread > > >Harry Veeder wrote: > >Kullander: .

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Harry Veeder wrote: > > >> Kullander: . . . The isotopic analysis through >> >> ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of >> nickel and copper." >> > > This has to be a misunderstanding. Believe me, I have ha

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Jones Beene wrote: > HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. > It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does sometimes make himself clear. I don't see anything untoward about it. Of course he doesn't want replication! It would endanger his intellectual pr

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

I uploaded a question about this to his blog, here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338&cpage=2 It has not shown up yet. - Jed

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Harry Veeder wrote: > Kullander: . . . The isotopic analysis through > ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of > nickel and copper." > This has to be a misunderstanding. Believe me, I have had many misunderstandings trying to communicate with Rossi, and often

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Jones, From the April 6th NyTeknik article:    "NyTeknik: What results have you obtained from the analyses?   Kullander: Both measurements show that the pure nickel powder contains mainly nickel, and the used powder is different in that several elements are present, mainly 10 percent copper and 1

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

I do not think he is lying about this. I think he is telling us the truth. The only downside is that even though the enrichment only costs 10% of the cost of the nickel the final amount of nickel fuel is less. It might only be 100 grams out of a kilogram. F

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

noone noone wrote: > He has found some process of removing some of the other isotopes so that > there is a higher percentage of Ni62 and Ni64. This process costs about two > dollars. This is probably due to the chemicals used. > Look up "isotope separation methods" and you will see that chemica

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

I'm willing to bet that Peter Gluck is right and Rossi bakes his Ni in a vacuum to remove the gaseous impurities then puts it in the reaction chamber under the bell jar. I think the "catalyst" is a red herring. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On 04/11/2011 08:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > noone noone > wrote: > > ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! > > > Wow! That is a revelation. He _has_ learned from Piantelli. > > It is surprising he can do this for 10% of the cost of nickel. It's also surprising that t

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Ackshully, the implication here is that someone is getting tooo close to the truth. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:15 PM, noone noone wrote: > He has found some process of removing some of the other isotopes so that > there is a higher percentage of Ni62 and Ni64. This process costs about two > dollars. This is probably due to the chemicals used. Bovine tripe, IMNSHO. Rossi is stir

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

I don't think he has been dishonest with us at all. He has told us for a long time that the copper comes from Ni 62 and Ni 64. He just did not state that they enriched the nickel. To me, the situation is obvious. He buys one quantity of nickel powder. He stated that the nickel powder he buys c

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Why waste time with this nonsense? Because it's fun? Fizzix is fun! Personally, I contribute Rossi's success to spintronics! Not. T

RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

From: noone noone Dear Mr Mattias Carlsson: Yes, we do. Warm Regards, A.R. ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! Now, does this tell us anything about the type of catalyst he uses? No – but it tells us volumes about someone’s basic honesty, doesn’t it ? At least when you place this informati

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

noone noone wrote: ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! > Wow! That is a revelation. He *has* learned from Piantelli. It is surprising he can do this for 10% of the cost of nickel. It is surprising how much he reveals in his blog. I hope it does not endanger his intellectual property. At the same time,

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

noone noone wrote: Does this tell us anything new? > > Dear “HRG”: > My process has nothing to do with Widom Larsen Theory. > Indeed! This tells us that Steve Krivit will soon reveal that Rossi is a fraud, a cad, he snatches candy from babies, and throws stones at innocent songbirds. - Jed

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Does this tell us anything new? Dear “HRG”: My process has nothing to do with Widom Larsen Theory. Nothing at all, as you will see when we will publish our theory together with the presentation of our 1 MW plant in Greece in October. Warm Regards, A.R. Fro

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Dear Rossi, As I understand from your answers you confirm or suspect that only Ni 62 and Ni 64 react to produce Cu 63 and Cu 65 respectively. The Swedish professor Kullander says in the magazine “Ny teknik” that in the ‘spent’ fuel there is 10% copper 63 and 65 (70:30) and 11% iron. Since nick

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Okay, the problem, as I see it, is overcoming the binding energy of > the quarks in the proton.  This blender would require energy levels > equivalent to those soon after the BB! This would require about 1 GeV as I understand it. T Not th

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > > It is as if a large amount of hydrogen atoms together with some other > atoms > > like nickel go into a quantum mechanical blender and turned into a > coherent > > quark soup. > > > Ok

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > It is as if a large amount of hydrogen atoms together with some other atoms > like nickel go into a quantum mechanical blender and turned into a coherent > quark soup. Okay, the problem, as I see it, is overcoming the binding energy of the qua

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps you > could direct me. > > Thanks! > > T > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton > wrote: > >> > >> O

Re: [Vo]:A Resolution of a few conflicting facts

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > As far as I know, he has always used stainless steel cells. Or at least, all > recent cells have been steel. We should probably add that as Item 13. Appropriate number. WTF would we be doing if not for this? LOL! T "Even the calendar kno

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps you could direct me. Thanks! T On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >> > The pressure >> > buildup

Re: [Vo]:A Resolution of a few conflicting facts

Jones Beene wrote: > Even if that translates to "several dozen" it is completely possible > that E-Cat is stainless NOW, whereas the earlier (E-kitten) models > were copper-based, as they appear in the images, and as the > spectrograms indicate. > That is not what Rossi says. He told Essen and

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > The pressure > > buildup is so intense, the atoms stop being atoms, and the nucleus of the > > former hydrogen atoms breaks apart into it's constituent protons, which > then > > break ap

[Vo]:A Resolution of a few conflicting facts

There is a logical way to resolve most of the question concerning the stainless vs. copper alloy debate - in terms of the Rossi extended history. After all - he says that he has build thousands of reactors over the last 5-6 years. Even if that translates to "several dozen" it is completely possi

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:23:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Doing the first test, .25 grams of hydrogen was loaded into one gram of >nickel. That is an enormous amount of hydrogen to pack into a very small >quantity of nickel. If I calculated correctly, this is 15 H to each Ni

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:23:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] >What the function of the X2O3 does is absorb hydrogen is vast amounts by >packing the hydrogen atoms into a vast number of countless holes and defects >in the crystal structure of this X2O3 oxide compound. > > > >This

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

I meant that Axil Axil's essay is a remarkable synthesis. As far as I can tell. It is remarkable how much information can be gleaned from Rossi's publications and comments. You could not gather this much about Fleischmann and Pons at Technova, for example, because only Johnson Matthey knew ab

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > The pressure > buildup is so intense, the atoms stop being atoms, and the nucleus of the > former hydrogen atoms breaks apart into it's constituent protons, which then > break apart into their constituent sub-particles (quarks and gluons), which

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to SHIRAKAWA Akira's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:44:33 +0200: Hi, [snip] >On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: > >> -- Forwarded message -- >[...] > >This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely >onto something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Axil Axil wrote: Deuterium impurities in the hydrogen will make formation of a fermionic condensate impossible. This is why a small percentage (2% to 3%) of deuterium will kill the Rossi reaction. Did Rossi say that? I don't recall that. Let's add that to the list of What We Know From Ross

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:05:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The iron assay in the ash is higher than even copper. So how did it get so >high? The proton fusion theory of nickel does not support the transmutation >of iron. The Miley theory of natural isotopic abundance that I pr

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil wrote:.. > > > So sorry...please excuse me, I am just begining to learn the vortex > ropes. > > No, I apologize. We have speculated for so long. > > T > > >From Axil The following speculation i

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Harry Veeder wrote: disingenuous is stating that the reaction chamber is made of stainless steel. Why? Stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. If stainless steel takes a few minutes longer to reach the maximum temperature that is hardly a drawback if the Ecat runs for weeks or days or eve

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil wrote:.. > So sorry...please excuse me, I am just begining to learn the vortex ropes. No, I apologize. We have speculated for so long. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

> >From: Axil Axil >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 5:05:37 PM >Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread > > > > >There has been speculation within the cold-fusion community that Rossi is >being >disingenuous is stating that the reaction chamber is made o

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Axil Axil wrote: IF maghemite(Fe2O3) is used in the Rossi process, and if the Rossi reaction depends on the magnetic behavior of Iron oxide nanoparticles . . . Okay, that's 2 elements, and it would not add much to the cost. ~10%? Essen did not say there was oxygen but he didn't say there w

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Don't laugh at suggestion of 'rust' as a catalyst. It was maniacal. T

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On 2011-04-11 23:57, Axil Axil wrote: The following speculation is offered as a springboard for discussion as regards to the chemical and physical processes that underlie the Rossi reactor. This is another attempt to connect the dots. " I haven't seen that part appear here. Should I sent it a

RE: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

From: Axil Axil * 316L stainless steel has 18% chromium and 65% iron more or less. If the process was a mechanical based sputtering process then 2.7 % chromium contamination should have been found in the ash and this chromium would have still been alloyed with the iron. What could have puri

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:15:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] >should have instructed them: "tell the reader what two isotopes you mean, >and what the desired proportion should be." > >- Jed Ni62 & Ni64 in the proportion 70/30? ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspa

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:44 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- >> > [...] > > This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely onto > something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also be quite cheap to add to

RE: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Axil Axil wrote: >> All this supports my contention that iron in the form of an X2O3 oxide >> forms the site of the active nuclear component in the Rossi catalyst. > So the secret is rust? Is your last name Foley, by chance? :-) Don't laugh a

Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: -- Forwarded message -- [...] This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely onto something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also be quite cheap to add to nickel power which is consistent to what we've read so far on char

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Hah! I thought I recognized JANAP 128 Protocol: > > http://sites.google.com/site/mdprcp/proceduresandprotocols > > T > > "I've been mad for fu**ing years, absolutely years, been > Over the edge for yonks, been working me buns off for bands.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Hah! I thought I recognized JANAP 128 Protocol: http://sites.google.com/site/mdprcp/proceduresandprotocols T "I've been mad for fu**ing years, absolutely years, been Over the edge for yonks, been working me buns off for bands..." "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the Most of us.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >> All this supports my contention that iron in the form of an X2O3 oxide >> forms the site of the active nuclear component in the Rossi catalyst. > > So the secret is rust? Is your l

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Axil Axil wrote: All this supports my contention that iron in the form of an X2O3 oxide forms > the site of the active nuclear component in the Rossi catalyst. > > So the secret is rust? T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Putting aside Rossi for moment, I guess this has to be Piantelli's secret. Or one of his secrets. I do not think you are allowed to add red herrings to patents. (That is, irrelevant information or false clues as to how to make the thing work.) I have read this several times. It seems to me that it

Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

There has been speculation within the cold-fusion community that Rossi is being disingenuous is stating that the reaction chamber is made of stainless steel. Why? Stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. It could also be a way to justify the presence of a large amount of iron in the ash; a co

Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

-- Forwarded message -- From: Axil Axil Date: Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:18 PM Subject: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread To: thesteornpa...@yahoo.com This part of the Rossi patent caught my attention: “The present inventor, moreover, has also accurately studies the fol

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

On 04/11/2011 04:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Mono-isotopic nickel? > > Could that be the secret? It would be nice -- that would explain a lot of things, including the lack of radioactive ash. Unfortunately, the sample tested in Sweden was apparently natural nickel, and natural copper. So, u

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Dennis wrote: notice that is not consistent with what you said earlier today: "Ni processing system increases 10% the cost of Ni" " a pure isotope Nickel would cost a lot. It is more likely a simple commercially available modification of Ni Ah. You are right. Cancel that theory. Could that be

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Rossi has stated they use ordinary nickel and not any one specific isotope of nickel. From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 1:24:24 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread Peter Gluck wrote: And as I

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

notice that is not consistent with what you said earlier today: "Ni processing system increases 10% the cost of Ni" " a pure isotope Nickel would cost a lot. It is more likely a simple commercially available modification of Ni From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 2:24 PM To: vorte

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Peter Gluck wrote: > And as I have told so many times- the gases that could compete with > deuterium or hydrogen have to be thoroughly eliminated from the surface- > please read the (accepted!) patent WO 2010/058288 > The Piantelli patent. So you are talking mainly about cleaning. Here's some

[Vo]:Rossi-Levi Interview Moebius Radio 24

Transcript at http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/04/levi-e-rossi-intervistati-da-moebius-su.html http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/04/levi-e-rossi-intervistati-da-moebius-su.html&ei=jmKjTeP1H5CosAPD8bD6DA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

In this case truth is a problem of definition. Ni as such can play the role of a catalyst. I think during the 22 years of CF history we have learned how important is the nanometric structure of the metal. What I have called active sites in my Topology paper and they are now NAE are products of smar

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Peter Gluck wrote: Why not bet on what the catalyst is? My guess is this (it is valid only in Italian) The catalyst is Nickel electro- Nitrogen Telluride, shortened name NieNTe - niente- i.e. nothing So you are saying that Rossi is not telling the truth. Okay, but let us try playing a round

[Vo]:making Rossi patent acceptable by PTO

I think the Rossi device may be the real deal but there is a growing consensus that no one is really sure how it works. Rossi is presently denied a patent in Italy because his theory isn

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Mills told us years ago that his catalyst is potassium. Why do we think this is a different process? Remember that Mills started this work with a nickel-hydrogen fuel cell. If it's real, then more than likely it's the same process. Craig On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 21:47 +0300, Peter Gluck wrote: > Why

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

It also indicates to me that the cost of the catalyst must be low compared to the nickel powder and/or they are not using much of it. Thanks for that additional clue! From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 11:41:55 AM Subject:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Why not bet on what the catalyst is? My guess is this (it is valid only in Italian) The catalyst is Nickel electro- Nitrogen Telluride, shortened name NieNTe - niente- i.e. nothing Just a very good method of activation. I have told this here three days ago and I am ready to bet. Peter On Mon, Ap

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Forgot: 9) The catalyst consists of Ni plus two other elements. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Add to that: 8) "the Ni processing system increases 10% the cost of Ni" (Rossi, April 9) That can't be much processing. - Jed

[Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread

Hello Everyone, Over the past few months I have read many guesses as to what the catalyst(s) might be. A couple speculations are sodium hydride and zirconium. Please use this thread to post your speculations as to the catalysts used in the E-Cat. If we can figure this out replication work c

Re: [Vo]:A right wing conservative publication takes notice of Rossi

I wonder when a super liberal, illegal alien loving, pro-communist, left wing, and George Soros funded website will take notice of Rossi? I also wonder when a super liberty minded, Ron Paul supporting, anti-North American Union, small government, Federal Reserve abolishing, truly anti-war (unl

Re: [Vo]:A right wing conservative publication takes notice of Rossi

>> Looks like a super conservative xenophobic anti communist right-wing >> tea party web site has taken notice of Rossi's work - briefly that is. > > You, er, visit these web pages frequently? I got all my shots before I left. I never drink the water either. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson ww

Re: [Vo]:A right wing conservative publication takes notice of Rossi

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Looks like a super conservative xenophobic anti communist right-wing > tea party web site has taken notice of Rossi's work - briefly that is. You, er, visit these web pages frequently? T :-)

[Vo]:A right wing conservative publication takes notice of Rossi

Looks like a super conservative xenophobic anti communist right-wing tea party web site has taken notice of Rossi's work - briefly that is. Scroll down to the eleventh paragraph: http://americandaily.com/index.php/article/4861 Seems to me that if such groups are at least aware of the event, and

RE: [Vo]:Message from Martin's friend to Rossi

It's complete BS. He's probably a teenager, if he's friends with MF's granddaughter. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Stanley Meyer?!? OMG! Does Mr. Duckworth believe the poisoning myth? I guess if you can't spell da Vinci, you can't be expected to spell Fleischmann. T Jed

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Terry Blanton wrote: Stanley Meyer?!? OMG! Does Mr. Duckworth believe the poisoning myth? I guess if you can't spell da Vinci, you can't be expected to spell Fleischmann. Now that you point that out, it seems a little suspicious. This person could not be too close to Fleischmann's family i

Re: [Vo]:Message from Martin's friend to Rossi

Stanley Meyer?!? OMG! Does Mr. Duckworth believe the poisoning myth? I guess if you can't spell da Vinci, you can't be expected to spell Fleischmann. T On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Aron Duckworth > April 11th, 2011 at 1:55 AM > > Dear Ing. Rossi, > Amazing work. > I

[Vo]:Message from Martin's friend to Rossi

Aron Duckworth April 11th, 2011 at 1:55 AM Dear Ing. Rossi, Amazing work. I’am a good friend of Martin Fleischmans Grand Daughter. We have been keenly following your work since January. Anna and I have talked a lot about the t