Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

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Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

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Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

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Re: [Vo]:Professors often fail to publish results

- Original Message - > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com > Cc: > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:51:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Professors often fail to publish results > > At 05:01 PM 8/5/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: >> Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > <

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 07:34 PM 8/5/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/8/6 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax : > Boilers, however, do not ordinarily have liquid water spilling over the edge > of a hole in the side of the boiler, at a pace determined by the difference > between the pumped rate and the vaporization rate. If there i

Re: [Vo]:Rossi-Bologna contract

If that's Rossi's company, the contract is not active. It becomes active when they receive the first payment. As I'd read the contract, they have agreed to research the efficiency of the "power plant" for a payment of 500,000 euros. I can't imaging turning such a contract down. It represents

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 06:22 PM 8/5/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Ps. Abd ul-Rahman, be careful when insulting chemists. I'm (bio-)chemist too and I know everything about the steam, since I have cooked pasta when I was 12-years old. And also physical chemistry covers rather well all that are related to thermodynamics

Re: [Vo]:Professors often fail to publish results

At 05:01 PM 8/5/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: Yup. Would Levi do this? Only if he totally wanted to throw his career in the trash. So he's not doing it! He's actually publishing nothing. So he did a private test and saw

RE: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 04:55 PM 8/5/2011, Michele Comitini wrote: > > http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/mollier-diagram-water-d_308.html shows a Mollier diagram, but I see no way to use this diagram to determine steam quality. > Dear Abd, I us

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Cats at zero-gravity in 1947

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Relatives of the survivors received full benefits. All survivors died. T

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Cats at zero-gravity in 1947

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:29 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > Zoey, on the other hand, does not seem so amused. Yes, what the cats did to the experimenters before landing remains classified at the Majestic-12 level. Relatives of the survivors received full benefits. T

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Cats at zero-gravity in 1947

Jed sez: > I kid you not. They don't land on their feet. > Who knew they had zero-g in 1947? See: > http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2011/08/weightless-cats-lets-try -this-on-glenn-beck/243197/ Thank you Jed. A good belly laugh. Zoey, on the other hand, does not seem so amused. Reg

RE: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

>From Rich: > when someone appears within awareness who needs bread, > then responses flow giving bread, not stone -- however, the > form of the bread varies greatly, just as the form of the need > varies greatly -- what flows from me to others is at worse > harmless in outcome, or at best

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Cats at zero-gravity in 1947

I kid you not. They don't land on their feet. Who knew they had zero-g in 1947? See: http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2011/08/weightless-cats-lets-try-this-on-glenn-beck/243197/ - Jed

[Vo]:Steam Separator and related stuff

Here's an interesting device, for 'thought' or possible real experiments http://www.spiraxsarco.com/pdfs/TI/p023_59.pdf Given low-quality steam (steam mixed with water and air) this device separates it into dry steam, air and water. For the ecat, there will be little or no air after it's run f

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > Wasn't it €100M? €200M and he gives half to childhood cancer. As I recall. T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi-Bologna contract

Enzo wrote: > > > What is EFA? Are we sure this is Rossi's company? > > This contract has been discussed very much on italian forums and blogs... > i think we can be sure University of Bologna would immediately > deny any link with Rossi. > Ah ha. There is a link, so I don't see how U. Bolo

Re: [Vo]:Rossi-Bologna contract

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The web page links to this document, which Enzo translated for us. > (Thanks!): > http://www.df.unibo.it/bacheca/Avviso%20EFA%20S.r.l.2.pdf >> >>  - A research contract has signed with the Company Ltd. EFA of value >> of €500,000 (plus VAT)  la

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

when someone appears within awareness who needs bread, then responses flow giving bread, not stone -- however, the form of the bread varies greatly, just as the form of the need varies greatly -- what flows from me to others is at worse harmless in outcome, or at best, liberating... if there seem t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi-Bologna contract

The web page links to this document, which Enzo translated for us. (Thanks!): http://www.df.unibo.it/bacheca/Avviso%20EFA%20S.r.l.2.pdf > > > > Google translate of PDF file : > > > > Notice (google says "Warning) > > > > A slightly better human translation (mine): > > Bologna 29 June 2011 > Th

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Rossi will be fortunate indeed to avoid this and the next few years to avoid or prevail some severe civil and criminal legal actions... On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > >> >> Damn straight, I'd separate myself from Rossi.  He still gets his >> €200M, a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Terry Blanton wrote: > > Damn straight, I'd separate myself from Rossi. He still gets his > €200M, after all. > Wasn't it €100M? I hope he gets the money. He deserves it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

Yes, this describes Rich very well during his 69 years of life -- here is his most recent epistle attempting to lure others into unusual scientific researches: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > Re: “DESCRIBE PERSONALLY PERCEIVED FAULTS IN OTHERS” > > This predisposition of many m

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

eee, maybe Rich is a "which" doctor...

Re: [Vo]:Kimbler's Parts

In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:37:17 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Like Art's Parts, these artifacts of the Roswell crash show isotopic anomalies: > >http://www.openminds.tv/test-confirms-roswell-debris-733/ > >We had always planned to check small animal lairs if we ever had a >cha

Re: [Vo]:Rossi-Bologna contract

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > At 04:03 PM 8/5/2011, Enzo wrote: >> >> For the announcement of the University of Bologna take a look here: >> http://www.df.unibo.it/bacheca/bacheca.htm > > Google translate of PDF file : > > Notice (google says "Warning) > A slightly bett

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

2011/8/6 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax : > Boilers, however, do not ordinarily have liquid water spilling over the edge > of a hole in the side of the boiler, at a pace determined by the difference > between the pumped rate and the vaporization rate. If there is substantial > steam (my very rough estimate is

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 11:07 AM 8/5/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: No, not a circular demonstration. Steam is dry because P=1bar, and T>100 cosidering that the measured RH=0. Where is the "measured RH" found to be zero? Daniel, you are very far off the wall here. What you've done is to accept Galantini's statement,

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 11:04 AM 8/5/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: This is the reason why you need to know only one measured variable from E-Cat and that is the temperature of steam. You need also RH to make sure there is no mist. RH does not vary with mist. Mist is at RH of 100%. As is saturated steam. No matter wh

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 11:00 AM 8/5/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: The probe can work util 150C. It doesn't need to be that one that measure pressure directly. that's right. However, how are you going to measure temperature of 100 C, and the pressure, with a pressure probe only rated for 60 C? Sure, you can measure

Re: [Vo]:Rossi-Bologna contract

At 04:03 PM 8/5/2011, Enzo wrote: For the announcement of the University of Bologna take a look here: http://www.df.unibo.it/bacheca/bacheca.htm Google translate of PDF file : Notice (google says "Warning) Bologna 29 June 2011 The Department of Physics of the Alma Mater Studiorum - Universit

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 10:51 AM 8/5/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: There is no need for literature. If you have 1bar or less and any temperature above 100C, with 0% RH, you have no liquid water in any kind of gas, even if that gas is steam. Actually, if the gas is 100% steam, the RH is 100%. Yes. The statement is tru

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 10:41 AM 8/5/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: Yes, he measured the pressure. He doesn't need an instrument specific for that. You don't need an instrument for every data you want to find. For example, even in any big particle colliders you don't see all of the resulting colliding particles. You rec

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 09:15 AM 8/5/2011, Enzo wrote: >> 1) Rossi-Focardi had given a private demonstration of their reactor to >> the University of Bologna (the so called 18-hour test) which later >> signed a contract to study the reactor. > > You have c

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

2011/8/6 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax : > At 10:17 AM 8/5/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: >> >> Any probe that measures temperature in boiling water system measures >> also pressure. That is because boiling point of water is directly >> depended on pressure. > > Jouni, you can't see the forest for the trees. Su

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Its not an executable, .dat means its a data file. It has processing instructions for outlook servers. Basically it means its not just outlook, but a work server outlook. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > 2011/8/6 Terry Blanton : >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Alan J Fle

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 10:29 AM 8/5/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: By knowing the RH, you will know the steam quality, adding temperature and output, you will find the pressure inside the chamber. That's nonsense. Relative humidity maxes at 100%. The device used doesn't even reach that level. Steam quality has litt

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 10:17 AM 8/5/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Any probe that measures temperature in boiling water system measures also pressure. That is because boiling point of water is directly depended on pressure. Jouni, you can't see the forest for the trees. Sure, temperature will depend on pressure. But

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 09:38 AM 8/5/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: Let me get this simple to you. You are WRONG. We can stop right here. Daniel, you have sent this message to an entire mailing list. There is nothing in your message that indicates to whom or to what you are responding. There is nothing in your messa

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Terry Blanton quotes Mary Yogo: > Edit to add: Also according to the same source, Rossi is considered > unreliable by Defkalion and they are proceeding with their program > more or less without him. His claims are, apparently, not their > claims. I don't think this is true. Defkalion has reprod

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

2011/8/5 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax : > The device has a pressure sensor in it, > the pressure sensor is not in the probe. It's looking like Galantini assumed > he was getting a pressure reading from the probe he'd placed in the E-cat, > hence his error. > This is too simple explanation! Rossi arranged p

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

- Original Message - > From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Cc: > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:40:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up? > >T oo many alpha males trying to run the same pack. > > Adjustments are inevitable. > > Perhaps too

[Vo]:1MW eCat Generator Module?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuHJBIMj_rs&NR=1 Is that steam quality OK ?

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

At 09:15 AM 8/5/2011, Enzo wrote: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > By the way, the 18-hour test, on its own, certainly seems convincing, but > the problem is that we can't trust it. It's seems to me that most of the people talking about Rossi-Focardi would like to h

[Vo]:It Couldn't Be

Could it? http://www.hyperionfinancial.com/ "Here we go round the mulberry bush . . ." T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

2011/8/6 Terry Blanton : > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> I meant the winmail.dat attachment ... but that seems to be attached to all >> your posts. I thought it contained the scoop on your "hold the presses". > > That results from Jones' use of Outlook as his mailer.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Do you have something to back this up, or are you just trolling again? From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:27 PM Subject: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up? Hold the presses. Full Story at 5.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Did I say, she is also a skeptic; but, seems quite technical. T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Okay, this is from the "Village of the Banned": Meanwhile, back at the farm, I am in occasional email contact with a member of a group who plan to go to Greece sometime in September for a week of evaluation of a Defkalion Hyperion device. Information this person sent me so far is that the testing

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Rossi is an engineer - an inventor by nature. Engineers strike me as > often being in a perpetual state of tinkering with their inventions.. So true. In another life, I was a product engineer for a small company. Each week

RE: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

Anyway i searched all possible reference of text written on the internet by Galantini about the e-cat measurements and he does not mention steam tables nor Mollier diagrams but psychrometric tables which i do not understand how to use with steam... does anyone have a clue? mic Il giorno 05/ago/201

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

...and another thing! On a more serious note... The "split" suggest to me that Defkalion's management may have finally had enuf of Rossi's continued tinkering of his eCat design. When it comes to meeting deadlines pertaining to the rollout of a brand new product there comes a point when managemen

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > I meant the winmail.dat attachment ... but that seems to be attached to all > your posts. I thought it contained the scoop on your "hold the presses". That results from Jones' use of Outlook as his mailer. T

[Vo]:Professors often fail to publish results

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Isn't it interesting that the only test that had a possibility of actually > showing significant heat not only shows much more heat than the open > demonstrations purport to show, but also involves nobody but involved > persons. That might be interesting if it were

RE: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

> > http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/mollier-diagram-water-d_308.html shows a Mollier diagram, but I see no way to use this diagram to determine steam quality. > Dear Abd, I use like this: Take the isobaric curve; Find intersection with temperature. Now you can read the steam quality using the cl

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Wait a minute! I thought Defkalion and Rossi were supposed to be in cahoots with each other. Well, shoot! Who's minding the conspiracy now! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Too many alpha males trying to run the same pack. Adjustments are inevitable. Perhaps too many alpha females too. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Flowing Water on Mars

The MRO images are breathtaking. The satellite is powerful enough to photograph the tracks left by the Spirit and Opportunity rovers. Say what one will about NASA's faults, but when they hit a bull's eye the results can be spectacular. With funding on the construction of the IST winding down it is

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

Re: “DESCRIBE PERSONALLY PERCEIVED FAULTS IN OTHERS” This predisposition of many mainstream critics of out-of-the-box thinkers as abnormal and aberrant is deeply rooted in human nature as an evolutionary adaptation fostered by natural selection to enhance the survival of the race. The hum

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

At 01:18 PM 8/5/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I can't load that. Is there a link to it somewhere? I meant the winmail.dat attachment ... but that seems to be attached to all your posts. I thought it contained the scoop on your "hold the presses".

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > No boiler would be tested with absolute maximum possible flow rate, raising > the temperature only five degrees, with the measurement being taken inside > the boiler, instead of external to it. That is incorrect. I have seen people do boiler tests with small Delta

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

At 12:27 PM 8/5/2011, Jones Beene wrote: Hold the presses. I can't load that. Is there a link to it somewhere?

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

Rich, I see Mr. Rothwell has found his own unique way of assessing your assessments of his alleged faults. According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensch ...the Yiddish term "mensch" means "a person of integrity and honor". Actually, your response is somewhat cryptic and open to in

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Also, if they wait until October, there might not be a Europe to save. Besides, all the speculation due to Rossi's silly demonstrations is hurting their image and potential business. They have glycol closed loop systems ready for production and the walls are falling down around them. Damn straig

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Hold the presses. > > Full Story at 5. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. IMO, AR is slowing their progress. I think they are ready to progress the business and don't want to wait on AR to have his 15 minutes of f(l)ame to demonstrate his ste

Re: [Vo]:Flowing Water on Mars

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Other reports say the water is probably very salty, and it is probably mixed > in with so much other stuff it is viscous, like mud or syrup. Despite that, > it may host some form of life. There are species on earth that live in even > more hars

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 08:58 AM 8/5/2011, Mattia Rizzi wrote: Galantini said that reads grams of liquid water / m^3 of vapor on display of HD37AB1347. From Levi’s report, Galantini used an HP474ACR probe, that measure RH and temperature. In the 2nd email, Galantini claim that he measured the preassure inside th

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

At 07:51 AM 8/5/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 01:48 AM 8/4/2011, Rich Murray wrote: >> >> Thanks, Abd, for being so forthright > > My sense is that most cold fusion researchers have become quite skeptical > about Rossi. You have surv

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

5 of what timezone? What blog or newsource?

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

At 02:32 PM 8/4/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: No boiler is designed to create very wet steam as a possibility. Now, the 18-hour test doesn't involve steam. That was the point. But no boiler will be tested with water at a liter per second! That is incorrect. A large bo

[Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?

Hold the presses. Full Story at 5. <>

Re: [Vo]:Flowing Water on Mars

Other reports say the water is probably very salty, and it is probably mixed in with so much other stuff it is viscous, like mud or syrup. Despite that, it may host some form of life. There are species on earth that live in even more harsh environments than this. Although I suppose they initial

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

On 11-08-05 11:00 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Also it is even more impossible that steam temperature is above boiling point of local pressure. Heavens, Jouni, where have you been? That silly argument leads directly to the conclusion that the atmosphere can't be any hotter than the temperature

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Imagining that testing an experimental device with unknown operating > characteristics can be handled with a boiler form is what's preposterous. > The operating characteristics are not unknown. They are readily apparent. Anyone can the thing produces heat at a stable r

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Three Converging Avenues to Zero Point via Nano-geometry

Jones, I have been struggling with a new "Casimir" blog started below that is similarly unwieldy. I agree with your assessment that nature has already tapped Casimir geometry in biological structures. DRAFT below -unfinished- I haven't commented much of late on all the developments rega

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

At 01:57 PM 8/4/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: Except that the data recorded in a boiler test is EXACTLY what you see here, for crying out loud! To be more specific, I mean that they record only one value for temperature and one for the flow, even though these values probably fluctuate

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Well, Jed, maybe you're right at the cusp of a complete If Mr. Murray's propensity to exploit pop psychology persists I think it may warrant a temporary time out from the Vort sand box. The text is about me. It seems harmless. I auto-delete Murray's mes

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

as mighty mensch, I don't try to catalyze, I do catalyze... these are tough big boys, highly competent at maintaining their own, happy to play on multiple levels... In mutual service, Rich

RE: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

At 01:43 PM 8/4/2011, Michele Comitini wrote: I cannot find where Galantini declared that he used the RH reading on the datalogger. Did he declare that? He used the g/m^3 reading, which is a calculated reading. I believe that this reading does consider pressure, if the information is avail

[Vo]:Flowing Water on Mars

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/news/mro20110804.html NASA Spacecraft Data Suggest Water Flowing on Mars 08.04.11 PASADENA, Calif. -- Observations from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter have revealed possible flowing water during the warmest months on Mars. "NASA's Mars Exploration Progr

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

>From Rich: The following is obviously abbreviated and probably taken out of context: > ...rather than continue to blather forever about claims that go back 22 years, Ah, I see the "blather" word is now being used to explain CF claims for the past 22 years. Look, Rich, expressing your skepticis

[Vo]:Three Converging Avenues to Zero Point via Nano-geometry

Several interesting and provocative News items can be found in Mitchell's newsletter. http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html The first relates Robert Foot's "mirror matter" in the context of "dark energy/dark matter" which is one of Horace's pet themes. From that point on - the connection of this h

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

Ironic, yet natural, that what Abd is trying to catalyze Jed to understand about Rossi, Rich is trying to catalyze Abd to understand about all cold fusion claims to date -- rather than continue to blather forever about claims that go back 22 years, let's consider whether any evidence has been found

[Vo]:Industrial energy use and the human life history

Industrial energy use and the human life history     Abstract The demographic rates of most organisms are supported by the consumption of food energy, which is used to produce new biomass and fuel physiological processes. Unlike other species, modern humans use ‘extra-metabolic’ energy sources a

Re: [Vo]: NEW POLL LINK IS HERE

At 09:37 AM 8/5/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: WHOA This isn't the actual poll . coming up REAL SOON !!! http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22CU6CZ3P9U/ results will be at: http://www.zoomerang.com/Shared/SharedResultsPasswordPage.aspx?ID=L26VBL22QQQG

Re: [Vo]:Time for a new poll?

At 07:27 AM 8/5/2011, Mattia Rizzi wrote: > Do you now think the eCat is Real or Fake? Definetly a scientific scam WHOA This isn't the actual poll . coming up REAL SOON !!!

Re: [Vo]:18-hour test is no less detailed than a boiler test report

Just to clarify: I said: > ...If Mr. Murray's propensity to exploit pop psychology persists > I think it may warrant a temporary time out from the Vort sand box. What I meant to say is that if Mr. Murray's propensity to exploit pop psychology IN ATTEMPTS TO DESCRIBE PERSONALLY PERCEIVED FAULTS I

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

The high powered tests were done with a lot of liquid water instead of showing steam.

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

I just read about relative humidity. It I was wrong about the measurement of RH. It will be 1 all the time given the measured steam above, without, is already saturated steam. So, only the T will make sense.

Re: [Vo]:Time for a new poll?

I remember him first of all for the script of the movie L'Eternel retour (Jean Marais, Medeleine Sologne) a story similar to Tristan and Isolde- one of the first I have seen Peter On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Peter Gluck > wrote: > > >

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

2011/8/5 Daniel Rocha : > I am talking about the need for the RH quantity, > to make sure that there isn't enough liquid mass to invalidate the output > power. This kind of setup, that there is no liquid mass with steam, is impossible, because it is not stable. Water inflow must always be greater

Re: [Vo]:Time for a new poll?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > " I know that poetry is indispensable, but to what, I cannot say." (Jean > Cocteau) Ah, Jean Cocteau, I remember him from my studies of the Priory of Sion. :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

No, you misunderstood me. I am talking about the need for the RH quantity, to make sure that there isn't enough liquid mass to invalidate the output power.

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

2011/8/5 Daniel Rocha : >> This is the reason why you need to know only one measured variable >> from E-Cat and that is the temperature of steam. > > You need also RH to make sure there is no mist. > Mist does not contribute for the pressure and hence the temperature of boiling water and steam. Th

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

But if you say RH=0, it is dry. If there is mist it will point a non null RH, if there is bubbling, there will probably be a short circuit and the value of RH will saturate or very wildly.

[Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

they want, but it is impossible that there is ambient pressure, since E-Cat is closed system Exaclty, there will be a little (unknown) over preassure. it is even more impossible that steam temperature is above boiling point of local pressure Hey! If inside there's over preassure, then the b

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

No, not a circular demonstration. Steam is dry because P=1bar, and T>100 cosidering that the measured RH=0.

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

> > This is the reason why you need to know only one measured variable > from E-Cat and that is the temperature of steam. You need also RH to make sure there is no mist.

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

Daniel you lost me a cople messages ago. Is this a circular demostration ? *The steam is dry because P = 1bar and P = 1 bar because the steam is dry ?* Is this you saying ? P, T and Dryness are three values tied together by one law (mollier diagram) tho know one you need the other two. We do know

Re: [Vo]:Re: [e-cat] Engineer from delta ohm confirms that galantini instrument is useless

The probe can work util 150C. It doesn't need to be that one that measure pressure directly.

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