Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > BTW I was personally emailed by Rossi that he has accepted by 10 x 10 kW > home E-Cat order. I replied and thanked him for his acceptance and wished > him well with his current business in the US. That reminds me of a tired old joke. S

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

You don't get it do you? That event took place in 2004. Not Nov 2011. It has no bearing on where we are today. End of discussion. AG On 11/23/2011 5:52 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: There was no simple vote, so this is an interpretation of what they wrote, based on a question you don't mention.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

The left or right hand / index finger thing was just a cheap shot from those that are rapidly loosing the spin war and are grabbing at any thing they can find to try to suggest Rossi is a scammer and fraud. BTW I was personally emailed by Rossi that he has accepted by 10 x 10 kW home E-Cat ord

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > WOW! That's a lot of yes! :O > > Yes to compelling evidence for excess heat. Only 1 Yes to conclusive evidence for cold fusion.

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Score (member number, Y, N or U - undecided): > There was no simple vote, so this is an interpretation of what they wrote, based on a question you don't mention. The only simple question that all the members answered was: "Should a speci

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

I currently have a broken meniscus in one knee. It hurts. I still have to touch it and think about it before being able to say whether it's the left or the right knee. And that's without the obvious language change problem which is clearly impacting how Rossi expresses himself

[Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

I don't think this has been posted to Vortex before. I believe it describes Brian Ahern's approach to LENR. Does this imply he believe Rossi's results? Any comments? Thanks, Lou Pagnucco From: http://www.scribd.com/doc/55221791/Clean-Enenergy-From-Nano-Materials /**START** New Clean Energy Opp

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM, David Roberson wrote: > This humid warm air would enter the steam piping and the water would > immediately begin to condense upon every surface. Right, especially given that the pipes are connected to the air cooler, and that the external temperature was around 15

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > Heat flow depends on temperature differentials, so the gradient in > temperature between the surface and the core would have to be 7 > times steeper. and also wrote: > You would need to cover 7 times the area in a matter of minutes, also not

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

Mary Yugo wrote: > I disagree. Nobody can protect their jobs by suppressing the > greatest discoveries of the last century. Lots of people made tons of money suppressing the greatest discoveries of the last century! The dairy industry suppressed pasteurization from 1860 to 1917; the tobacco in

Re: [Vo]:New Warnings of Hydrovolcanic Explosion at Fukushima

Apparently it has burned through the containment vessels and the concrete floor in the 3 damaged reactors. Radioactive steam is coming up from cracks in the ground around the 3 damaged reactors. Watch the youtube video. It was made several months ago. The interview with Uehara Haruo happened 17

Re: [Vo]:New Warnings of Hydrovolcanic Explosion at Fukushima

The interview with Uehara Haruo was done 17 Nov, 2011 http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/architect-of-fukushimas-reactor-3-warns-of-massive-hydrovolcanic-explosion/ Apologize for the quality of the link. Trying to find a link to the original interview. AG On 11/23/2011 1:2

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > People opposed to cold fusion have successfully used misdirection, ignorance > and outright lies for 22 years and counting. They managed to suppress the > discovery of Helicobacter pylori well into the internet era. That

Re: [Vo]:New Warnings of Hydrovolcanic Explosion at Fukushima

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > New Warnings of Hydrovolcanic Explosion at Fukushima > http://1723news.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/new-warnings-of-hydrovolcanic-explosion-at-fukushima/ > Just remember this is 3 reactors going China Syndrome and not just one as in > 3 mile o

Re: [Vo]:New Warnings of Hydrovolcanic Explosion at Fukushima

Good grief. I though the fuel was solidified and cooling. It did get out of the containment vessel. I wonder if this report is accurate. Kyoto U. has great credibility. This article says: "Fukushima is no longer news worthy." That's a dumb thing to say. It still makes headlines in Japan, and ofte

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

Mary Yugo wrote: > I would add that I know very well I assisted in the design, testing, > field use, and evaluation of calorimeters (I never said I made one, > you made that up). . . . Designing and testing a calorimeter is the same as making one. That's what I mean. I did not mean you dig up

[Vo]:New Warnings of Hydrovolcanic Explosion at Fukushima

New Warnings of Hydrovolcanic Explosion at Fukushima http://1723news.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/new-warnings-of-hydrovolcanic-explosion-at-fukushima/ Just remember this is 3 reactors going China Syndrome and not just one as in 3 mile or the Russian reactor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

Here is a self-referential example of opposition to new ideas in the Internet era: http://www.scientificjournals.org/misinformation_campaigns.htm There is opposition to the use of Internet itself for peer-reviewed open source scientific journals. For the usual reason: money. QUOTES: Some tradit

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

Mary Yugo wrote: I'm also curious if you know another earth shaking revolutionary invention > that has been brought out with such discretion and misdirection recently. Transistor zone refining, the cause of rickets, the maser, MRI, some HTSC research, and symptoms of AIDS unique to women. Resea

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> A republican in Massachusetts?  What a strange state! > > Well, he isn't shy about inviting AR: > > http://www.tarrtalk.com/ Well, he doesn't exactly say *he* invited Rossi. He doe

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > A republican in Massachusetts?  What a strange state! Well, he isn't shy about inviting AR: http://www.tarrtalk.com/ T

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Hello group, > > This is again via 22passi: > > http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/domani-rossi-alla-state-house-del.html > >> According to Sen. Bruce Tarr, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Tarr A republican in Massachusetts? What a s

Re: [Vo]:A Pyrolysis E-Cat fake

I wrote: "Most of Florida is within a day's drive of Patterson's former lab location at West Palm Beach." My memory is not good. That should say Sarasota. To top off that mistake, I sent this message to myself yesterday, instead of vortex. I just found it. Best regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Maybe he is dyslexic and has difficulty telling his right from his left. > Like me, and my grandmother Isn't a more straighforward explanation (by far) of this interesting find (thanks Alan) that he's lying?

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > It is not possible that Yugo has made calorimeters > yet she cannot follow this paper. I have no idea whether she actually knows > anything about calorimeters since she has not made any technical assertions > about calorimetry. I have no way o

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-11-22 20:18, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > >>> According to Sen. Bruce Tarr [...] > > This is Sen. Bruce Tarr's blog where probably the story originated: > http://www.tarrtalk.com/2011/11/cold-fusion-inventor-comes-to-boston.html > > Acc

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Alan J Fletcher wrote: Oh-oh : just started to listen, and at 5:10 he says he burned the INDEX > finger of the RIGHT hand. > Maybe he is dyslexic and has difficulty telling his right from his left. Like me, and my grandmother. No kidding. It isn't just in present perceptions. The problem exten

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Since he is not a fool, I am sure he knows that. He has known it for years. > He has never said to me outright, "I do not want people to believe this, > since I have no patent" but I suppose that must be his business strategy. > Patterson did

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > My predictions are similar in all forums.  In Moletrap, they're just a > bit spicier. Can you say "Bhut Jolokia (ghost) pepper"? :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Needless to say, protecting cushy family jobs was not disclosed, in the > interest of fairness. However, this seems to be a typical motivation for Ivy > League techno-hegemonists with connections to hot fusion ... I disagree. Nobody can pro

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > In that case there are no true believers here, since we all agree he [Rossi- > M. Y.] acts > like a scammer. I have said that countless times. To make that complete, you have to add that he acts like a scammer yet you believe he really ha

Re: [Vo]:Ex-Chancellor backs Philip over attack on wind farms which Duke described as 'absolutely useless'

That comes from a guy who lives in a hard working style from a hard working family. 2011/11/22 Harry Veeder > Ex-Chancellor backs Philip over attack on wind farms which Duke > described as 'absolutely useless' > > By Tamara Cohen > > Last updated at 12:17 PM on 21st November 2011 > > Former Chan

[Vo]:Ex-Chancellor backs Philip over attack on wind farms which Duke described as 'absolutely useless'

Ex-Chancellor backs Philip over attack on wind farms which Duke described as 'absolutely useless' By Tamara Cohen Last updated at 12:17 PM on 21st November 2011 Former Chancellor Lord Lawson yesterday led the backing for Prince Philip after he branded wind farms ‘absolutely useless’. In a scathi

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

By the way, that was for "charge 2" Most went along #3. Charges are: "(2) To determine whether the evidence is sufficiently conclusive to demonstrate that such nuclear reactions occur. (3) To determine whether there is a scientific case for continued efforts in these studies and, if so, to identif

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

At about 17:00 he talks about 3 kinds of skepticism ... some of us at Vortex are "honest skeptics", which is positive. The other two are "Envy" and "Competitors". He politely left off #4 -- snakes. At 20:26 he says he isn't associated with ecat.com ... but this interview predates that : 11/11/1

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

WOW! That's a lot of yes! :O 2011/11/22 Aussie Guy E-Cat > 6 Yes, 10 No and 2 undecided. Wonder how they would vote today? > > AG > > > On 11/23/2011 11:36 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > de Bivort Lawrence mailto:ldebiv...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >>Joshua, when did the DOE panel you refer to

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

6 Yes, 10 No and 2 undecided. Wonder how they would vote today? AG On 11/23/2011 11:36 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: de Bivort Lawrence mailto:ldebiv...@gmail.com>> wrote: Joshua, when did the DOE panel you refer to take place? See: http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/DoeReview.htm Panel opin

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

de Bivort Lawrence wrote: Joshua, when did the DOE panel you refer to take place? > See: http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/DoeReview.htm Panel opinions: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DOEusdepartme.pdf Score (member number, Y, N or U - undecided): 1 N 2 N 3 U 4 Y 5 N 6 N 7 N 8 Y 9 Y 10 Y 11 Y

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Oh-oh : just started to listen, and at 5:10 he says he burned the INDEX finger of the RIGHT hand. On the Krivit interview he said : At a certain point, the, the temperature raised very suddenly, and, uh, and I had in my, the, the, uh, left finger of, uh, of, uh, the, the, the, the finger of

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Someone was kind enough to dig up this document: > > http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/2100_2107_01.htm > > > -- Forwarded message -- From: James Bowery Date: Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:55 PM, de Bivort Lawrence wrote: > Joshua, when did the DOE panel you refer to take place? > > > 2004. I think the McKubre papers Rothwell is referring to predate that. There has not been much (if anything) published under peer-review about excess heat from electrolysis s

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

Joshua, when did the DOE panel you refer to take place? Lawrence On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > Anyway, it is clear from this document and others that the management at the > Patent Office, the DoE and at so

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

It has been said it is difficult for a man to believe what his paycheck demands he not believe. AG On 11/23/2011 9:54 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: All that cold fusion literature was available to the DOE panel of 18 experts, and they judged that the occurrence of low energy nuclear reactions is no

RE: [Vo]:Published today in the UK

OOPS - got that backwards... Frank's Speed of sound in nucleus is many times times SLOWER than C! [snip] Light or electromagnetic radiation in vacuum has a much higher velocity, c = 299,792,458 metres per second, nearly 300 times as large as the velocity of sound in the nucleus of atoms ident

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > Anyway, it is clear from this document and others that the management at > the Patent Office, the DoE and at some other leading institutions in the > United States do not believe that cold fusion exists. > That's called over-interpretati

[Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

Someone was kind enough to dig up this document: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/2100_2107_01.htm QUOTE: Situations where an invention is found to be "inoperative" and therefore lacking in utility are rare, and rejections maintained solely on this ground by a Federal court ev

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On 2011-11-22 20:18, Akira Shirakawa wrote: According to Sen. Bruce Tarr [...] This is Sen. Bruce Tarr's blog where probably the story originated: http://www.tarrtalk.com/2011/11/cold-fusion-inventor-comes-to-boston.html According to him, Rossi's already arrived in Boston this morning. It mig

[Vo]:Sven Kullader's cold fusion talk is upon us.

Will anyone go there? It's today (11/23). -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Published today in the UK

I am starting to see things from your perspective, if you are correct about propagation speed inside a nucleus being faster than C and if this holds true for super atoms of condensed matter then you have a potential force converter where energy supplied by normal propagation limit of C now has an a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Maybe because it works as claimed and MIT wants to gain the academic high > ground by verifying Rossi and then asking the US gov for LOTS of research > money to study and improve the reaction? But that doesn't fit with the excuse usually

[Vo]:Tachyonic Neutrinos and the eCat

From another forum : "I want to corral some faster-than-light neutrinos to do my stock picks for me." My reply : The financial quants are already laying a dedicated transatlantic fiber cable so they get the news quicker. I'll bet they're talking to folks about how to send messages with neutrin

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

What do you think the 1 MW test was? It was independent testing and verification. You think the same US military research contractor that bought the first reactor ordered 13 more 1 MW reactors because they were not satisfied with the results of their tests? We have NO idea of what is really hap

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

Maybe because it works as claimed and MIT wants to gain the academic high ground by verifying Rossi and then asking the US gov for LOTS of research money to study and improve the reaction? Think about thousands of container ships full of US made E-Cats sailing to all points of the compass. With

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

At 02:31 PM 11/21/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Just out of curiosity, is there anything written about "nuclear catalysts" other than related to LENR/cold fusion energy generation? I never heard of a nuclear catalyst before Rossi. I've always thought of a catalyst as a substance which changes the rat

RE: [Vo]:Published today in the UK

Frank, I am starting to see things from your perspective, if you are correct about propagation speed inside a nucleus being faster than C and if this holds true for super atoms of condensed matter then you have a potential force converter where energy supplied by normal propagati

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

My intent to order has been acknowledged. No number in the queue was given. I have more doubts about Defkalion than Rossi. AG On 11/23/2011 1:38 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Just placed my order for 10 x 10 kW plants. Have you received

[Vo]:Cold Fusion and the USPTO

Some interesting articles: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project143.htm http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2000/08/more_on_cold_fusion_and_the_patent_office.html http://haroldaspden.com/essays/09.htm http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/08/

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

We have started a process to build trust and prove reliability. I suggest that by the time Rossi is asking for money, there will be more than ample proof. AG On 11/23/2011 1:07 AM, James Bowery wrote: How are you going to deal with this risk, Aussie Guy?

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

Joshua Cude, whose messages I deep-six, apparently wrote: But the claim is that those beneficiaries of government largess at the MIT >> have been able to squelch cold fusion research on the entire planet. >> > They would if they could. They did their best to squelch it. Working on their own they c

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

Robert Lynn wrote: This was a patent maneuver. They needed to have the fact that they had a flight published in order to head off anyone else who tried to patent on the basis of prior art if it came to a legal wrangle (which it did). I do not think so. Amos Root showed up out of the blue on

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> James Bowery wrote: >> >>> With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other >>> hand they were simultaneously bolting out of the gate running a >>> scatter-shot pa

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

Akira Shirakawa wrote: Would the photos you mention by any chance be those that can be seen in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGmgTo2Kw1U At minute 2:11, 3:16, 4:03 ? Nope, not the same one. That's a gorblimey gadget isn't it? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

Mary Yugo wrote: Yup. He could stop the whole negative press mess in a heartbeat with one simple, cheap, comparatively quick and easy to perform test that would not involve his equipment and methods. Since he is not a fool, I am sure he knows that. He has known it for years. He has never sai

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

This was a patent maneuver. They needed to have the fact that they had a flight published in order to head off anyone else who tried to patent on the basis of prior art if it came to a legal wrangle (which it did). This is down to the concept of the 'diligent researcher' who could find things out

RE: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

Craig, I think it was earlier than that, and you could be referring to Dr. Peter Zimmerman, not Park. Robin may remember this incident, as it was reported on HSG forum some years ago. If memory serves, at the time this person (either Park of PZ or someone else) protested vehemently - not only

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

vorl bek wrote: My recollection is that she has always said that he *acts* like a scammer. Which is what anyone who is not a True Believer would say, in my humble opinion, given the way he acts. In that case there are no true believers here, since we all agree he acts like a scammer. I have

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

On 2011-11-22 21:49, Jed Rothwell wrote: [...] because he and others refuse to let me upload photos of his heater that ran for years, Would the photos you mention by any chance be those that can be seen in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGmgTo2Kw1U At minute 2:11, 3:16, 4:03 ? I

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > This is what we have to expect. If Rossi hits the mass media there will > dozens and then hundreds of people as ignorant as he is saying these same > things. > > Rossi knows that as well as I do. It is a shame he will not do a proper > test

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Oh come now. You have incessantly predicted what would happen! Again, and > again you have predicted that Rossi is a scammer who will be caught. If you quote me, please do it accurately. I have said Rossi *behaves* in manner indistiguisha

Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video

This is unadulterated ignorance. Randi has not learned a thing since I last heard from him. His description of cold fusion and this machine are wrong in every detail. This is what we have to expect. If Rossi hits the mass media there will dozens and then hundreds of people as ignorant as he is

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

> Mary Yugo wrote: > > > But I don't like to try to predict what may happen. > > Oh come now. You have incessantly predicted what would happen! > Again, and again you have predicted that Rossi is a scammer who > will be caught. My recollection is that she has always said that he *acts* like a s

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other >> hand they were simultaneously bolting out of the gate running a >> scatter-shot patent mill for Hagelstein. >> > > Well, seriously, MIT is a la

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: > > Does anyone remember this? In 2002, (or thereabouts), Randell Mills > applied for a patent for his method of creating heat with a device in a > similar fashion to the method that Rossi is using, and his patent was > accepted to the point t

[Vo]:Re: Randi Video

At 12:25 PM 11/22/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U What a surprise ! Gee .. they even made the "University of Baloney" joke.

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I prefer opponents such as Robert Park who are proud of the fact that > they have helped suppress this field, and who brag about the lives they > have disrupted and destroyed. > Are you making stuff up again, or do you have some examples of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

James Bowery wrote: With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other hand they were simultaneously bolting out of the gate running a scatter-shot patent mill for Hagelstein. Well, seriously, MIT is a large organization with many different people who have different point

[Vo]:Randi Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U What a surprise ! (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat  -- Hi, google!)

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

Mary Yugo wrote: But I don't like to try to predict what may happen. Oh come now. You have incessantly predicted what would happen! Again, and again you have predicted that Rossi is a scammer who will be caught. You have reached the point where I and others are on the verge of blocking you.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > MIT? How is that possible. MIT is the epicenter of the anti-cold fusion > conspiracy... > > Now THAT's hilarious! With one hand MIT was trashing Fleischmann and Pons and with the other hand they were simultaneously bolting out of the gate

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

> It is not in the interest of the US Patent Office or the US government > to suppress cold fusion devices -- to the contrary, discovery of a > robust energy generator that worked with cold fusion would be > spectacular for the economy of the US and would reduce or eliminate > dependence on foreig

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > This is like saying that because a theatre gradually filled with > people over two hours it is implausible to believe the same theatre > emptied of people in minutes after a fire alarm. > However it is only implausible based on the assumption

Re: [Vo]:Martin Ford requests claque support

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > myself. People who have not read the book should probably refrain from > uploading a review. I'm talkin' to you, Mary Yugo. Why talk to me? I don't often write Amazon book reviews. And the guy has a 4 star out of 5 rating so I have no ide

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

> Rossi uses the latent heat of deception to make a 30-year thermodynamics > veteran look bad, and to get an audience with archenemies of cold fusion at > MIT. Heh! Love that "latent heat of deception". But I don't quite get how a meeting with some really smart people from MIT would help Rossi (

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

This is like saying that because a theatre gradually filled with people over two hours it is implausible to believe the same theatre emptied of people in minutes after a fire alarm. However it is only implausible based on the assumption there is only one entrance/exit or the entrance/exit is small.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

I can't help but recall that the president of Ireland, Mary McAleese, actually visited Steorn's offices and looked at the stuff as a part of some technology outreach sort of thing.  That was after most of the scientific community realized and had said they were most likely to be a fraud.  Of course

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Quoting Rossi: > > 1- In the test of October 28th the water flow has been measured by the two > flowmeters that the Consultant of the Customer has put just minutes before > the test. He always checked the water flow, and the water trap that >

[Vo]:Martin Ford requests claque support

This is somewhat off topic, but we have discussed it here. Martin Ford, the author of "The Lights in the Tunnel" sent me this message. I am drafting a thoughtful, amusing yet hard-hitting review for Amazon. If I do say so myself. People who have not read the book should probably refrain from upload

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Rossi plans to visit Tuesday morning for two days of meeting with >> government officials and representatives of the Massachusetts Institute of >> Technology, > > MIT? How is that possible. MIT is the epicenter of the anti-cold fusion consp

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

At 11:30 AM 11/22/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: This cannot be a scam! Even MY must be convinced now! Of course it's a scam. It's just a bigger scam. Or not ... I pre-ordered mine.

Re: [Vo]: ECAT 1 MW Test Discrepancy

If this appeared here before, my apology but I don't think I saw it. Rossi had this to say in his blog: "Andrea Rossi November 21st, 2011 at 2:39 PM Dear “XY”: I did not approve your comment, because contains very big stupidities, and I want not to expose you and your name to a bad portrait.

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > Look up Muon-Catalyzed Fusion. (Recently discussed with Joshua Crude). > http://www.mail-archive.com/**vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg56320.**html > Thanks. Will do.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > This cannot be a scam! Even MY must be convinced now! > Of course it can be a scam. And the announcement can be wrong. Let's wait and see if it happens, what Rossi says, and what evidence he presents.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

Wow! First Rossi is on the "Tom and Doug" show. Now he is at the Massachusetts State House. Where will he turn up next? He makes the Energizer Bunny look lackadaisical. Seriously, I admire his tenacity. Before the Oct. 28 demo, he wrote to me something like: "if it does not work, we will try again

Re: [Vo]:Tovima: Defkalion says the catalyst formula is not Rossi's

At 02:31 PM 11/21/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: Just out of curiosity, is there anything written about "nuclear catalysts" other than related to LENR/cold fusion energy generation? I never heard of a nuclear catalyst before Rossi. I've always thought of a catalyst as a substance which changes the ra

Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

This cannot be a scam! Even MY must be convinced now! 2011/11/22 Akira Shirakawa > Hello group, > > This is again via 22passi: > > http://22passi.blogspot.com/**2011/11/domani-rossi-alla-** > state-house-del.html > > Ac

[Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow

Hello group, This is again via 22passi: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/domani-rossi-alla-state-house-del.html According to Sen. Bruce Tarr, Andrea Rossi, "the Italian scientist who claims to have developed the world's first nuclear cold fusion reactor is coming to the State House tomorro

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

At 12:50 AM 11/22/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=34#comment-126867    Dear Felipe From Chile:    You are right, we are organizing this.    BY THE WAY: WE COLLECT FROM NOW THE NAMES OF ALL THE PERSONS     ANDREA ROSSI, LEONARDO CORP. (PR

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > The Patent Office did, in fact, suppress cold fusion applications in 1989. > They still do. This is not debatable. All applications are summarily > rejected with a form letter that cites mass media reports from 1989 as >

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

Mary Yugo wrote: > > They would have had to organize a method of segregating them out and > assigning them to specialists who had familiarized themselves with patent > issues in the field. I suspect that's what the memo was about rather than > some nefarious plot by some unknown entity to suppre

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Oh well . . . the first reliable historical report of airplane flight was > published in "Gleanings in Bee Culture" by Amos Root, in 1905. Still > published: > > http://www.beeculture.com/ > Now only in archive.com: http://web.archive.org/w

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