Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread David Roberson
Thinking of acousticsIf the hemispheres are very accurately machined then any ultrasonic excitement of the surface that is symmetrical will form waves that collide at the center of the device. Very large pressure will be generated similar to the collapse of a bubble. I know of a fingerprin

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Jones Beene wrote: The biggest problem with Thrapp/Davey is that here we are 4 years later > and there is no commercial unit, BUT this situation is little different to > Rossi’s delay - since AR claimed to be in full production over a year ago. > One of the ple

Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread David Roberson
Yep, it is running wild this time. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 8:33 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:59:21 -0800: Hi, [snip] >There is an RF signal which appe

Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread James Bowery
Look at the acoustics of the electrodes. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess > heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > > The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kH

Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Harry Veeder
radio beacons work in that range http://www.dxinfocentre.com/ndb.htm harry On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess > heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > > The signal

RE: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
See slides 17-19 in the Steven Jones paper mentioned earlier. http://pesn.com/2012/11/19/9602225_Steven_Jones_replica--Pons_and_Fleischman n_XS_Heat_not_from_fusion/StevenJonesSeminarAtUnivMissouriOct2012.pdf It was apparently from a paper that NRL presented at ICCF17 but that is all I reme

RE: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroral_kilometric_radiation interesting possibility -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com >The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a >signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. This could be a cyclotr

Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Daniel Rocha
What is the paper? 2012/11/20 Jones Beene > There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess > heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > > The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a > signature - and a strong

RE: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
The Global Frequency database for 1.720 MHz has an entry, but I don't think it's what you had in mind ... Location Callsign 1.72 MHzAM Kandahar, Afghanistan OKN :) -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Subject: Re: [Vo]:430 kHz ma

Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:59:21 -0800: Hi, [snip] >There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess >heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > >The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems t

Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Terry Blanton
430 * 4 = 1720, eh?

[Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. I have looked

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:59:07 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] >Does this device operate with standard tap water that has impurities? The >mention of an RF resonator in the video has interesting implications if this >device actually works. The spherical shape of the

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
One explanation for the gain involves wave polarization leading to multiplication of sonic energy. This would be similar to the “singing bowl” phenomenon. S and P Polarization is probably natural to nested hemispheres when the gap is ideal. Thus one can rationalize using basically what is in thi

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread David Roberson
Very strange behavior indeed. The thing that amazes me is the rapidity with which the heat seems to be generated. It appears as though many thousands of watts of power would be required to boil water this fast. We could be a bit confused by the bubbles since they might just be cavitation due

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Gluck
Steven E. Jones was very active in emitting conspiracy theories re 9/11. I have forgot the details but they are on the Web. Peter On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jones can tell a bigger, bolder lie than anyone else I know. His chutzpah > is unbounded. He does not even both

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones can tell a bigger, bolder lie than anyone else I know. His chutzpah is unbounded. He does not even bother to make the lie believable He has such contempt for you, the audience, that he does not bother to make the lie seem credible. He reminds me of Soviet Era judges who would send people to

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtvKnZk9iM Video by Steven Jones http://www.youtube.com/user/TheProfJones List of all videos Cheers: Axil On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:39 PM, wrote: > Courtesy of pesn.com - > > Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTV85J2QHj0 &feature=plcp contrast this one with the Thrapp video as it is a bit more believable - there are differences and similarities - however, can there be any doubt that geometry and resonance are in

[Vo]:Heins Effect Gaining Credibility

2012-11-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Heins Effect Gaining Credibility Monday | March 19, 2012 http://evworld.com/blogs/index.cfm?authorid=279 'Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats.' -Howard Aiken, US computer scientist (1900 - 1973) Back in July of 2010 I wrote

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
Dave, You are exactly right - the video is suspicious, and that suspicion is not mitigated by the inventor's demeanor, nor the fact that he is supposedly a Christian minister. But I prefer this Thrapp scenario - to the Rossi's credentials anytime. The biggest problem with Thrapp/Davey is t

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
In fact, it seems to me now - in retrospect - that there was a strong sub-theme at ICCF-17 on Rhenium. Why? Well, it is group 7 and has massive valence electron flexibility, and is a Mills catalyst - but note that in contrast to Miles we have the results of an Re alloy with Pd that is spectacular,

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread David Roberson
Does this device operate with standard tap water that has impurities? The mention of an RF resonator in the video has interesting implications if this device actually works. The spherical shape of the unit suggests that it would have resonances at radio frequencies within and some might be clo

Re: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Just responding to this because travelling. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > Here is my exegesis of Sterling Allan's presentation of Steven Jones's recent > research: > > 1. There is piezonuclear fusion. Fleischmann's and Pons's discovery was not > this

RE: [Vo]:Steven Jones: Excess heat is real, but probably not nuclear

2012-11-20 Thread Jones Beene
Actually, I think that this is one of the better slide presentations out there this year - in the entire field - despite a few controversial statements and being in need of massive editing. Hats off to Steven Jones to support the Davey device, even though that inventor was nutty - and the prior cla