Actually, I think that this is one of the better slide presentations out
there this year - in the entire field - despite a few controversial
statements and being in need of massive editing. Hats off to Steven Jones to
support the Davey device, even though that inventor was nutty - and the
prior claims were heavy on anecdote. Both the Davey and Timothy Thrapp
spherical hot water heaters have been demonstrated to be way overunity, and
operate on what could be a similar principal, and also are the product of
inventors who are their own worst enemies. Both tried to hide the role of
nickel alloys, but there is also a geometry factor is the sphere or
hemisphere, along with recombination (chemical asymmetry). Here is a Thrapp
video, and you can probably see note that this inventor suffers from the
same Messiah complex as Joseph Newman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06iCfowinUM

This paper could be improved considerably and trimmed down to a couple of
relevant issues but focusing on this device. Steven Jones does not go far
enough in noting that there is more than one completely distinct phenomenon
at work in gainful devices which are lumped as LENR. And there is too much
emphasis early-on in the slides with muons - which appears to be
dead-in-the-water, despite the Star claims (Australia-
http://www.starscientific.com.au/). There is no practical way to make muons
work IMO ... unless of course. a charged sphere collects them :) 

In fact, there are at least 5 pathways to gain, some nuclear some not - or
more if one includes muons as separate from other catalysis. In the end, it
is all about repeatability, and that is THE major problem, even for Celani.
The proof for the Davey device is actually stronger than most of LENR, and
should not be overlooked because of the eccentricities of an inventor. But
it still lacks repeatability, with a number of failed attempts. We can only
hope that SJ, who is a thorough and careful experimenter, can dig deeper on
this simple device, since it is simple 'like electrolysis', but much more
robust (for some important but unknown reason.)

Of special interest is slide 17 et al. (NRL from ICCF 17) where he shows the
spectacular episodes of 40x gain with alloy electrodes and tell-tale RF
emission. It should be noted that Miles found nothing with Rhenium alone
(Miles-Co-Deposition-of-Palladium-Paper-ICCF17). 

In fact, it seems to me now - in retrospect - that there was a strong
sub-theme at ICCF-17 on Rhenium. Why? Well, it is group 7 and has massive
valence electron flexibility, and is a Mills catalyst - but note that in
contrast to Miles we have the results of an Re alloy with Pd that is
spectacular, and most of all gives us an RF signature. I think the emphasis
on Rhenium in many of these papers is misplaced - and instead manganese
should perform better, as both are group 7 - and Re is rarer than palladium
where as Mn is cheap ... but anyway - these NRL results are important and
beg to be expanded on.

Note to Steven Jones, if you monitor this group - try manganese or Ni-Mn
alloy on one of the hemispheres and use RF as input.


-----Original Message-----
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com 

Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion

Jones is experimenting with a bell electrode setup that strongly evidences
excess (xs) energy and has similarities to the cell presented by Pons and
Fleischmann. He says that there are at least two distinct phenomena in
these experiments and that "fusion" is not what most of these "CF" or
"LENR" types of arrangements exhibit....

http://pesn.com/2012/11/19/9602225_Steven_Jones_replica--Pons_and_Fleischman
n_XS_Heat_not_from_fusion/






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