Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Thanks for positing this. It is about drawing the world into existence. Newton drew a clock-work universe into existence using geometry and the tools of a mechanical draftsmen. "...geometry is founded in mechanical practice, and is nothing but that part of universal mechanics which accurately prop

Re: [Vo]:QED and LENR+

2013-04-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:39:24 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The capture time of the photon is important to the LENR+ reaction because >while the photon and electron are combined, the electron becomes a boson >with spin of 1. ...if an electron has spin 1/2 and a photon spin 1,

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Depressing statistic about North Korea

2013-04-17 Thread Eric Walker
Not being able to project force invites miscalculation (e.g., of countries like North Korea). Costa Rica's happiness and peace are possible in part due to its being under the shelter of other powers. Eric On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: I think that money in North Korea

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
I replied to Gibson in private with various details, but wrote this part for the group: For me more interesting is to work out what is required to make this interact with matter. Consider that dark matter and mirror matter and dark energy is considered to exist by conventional science and all effe

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread Gibson Elliot
John You may want to start collecting information from those that do respond to you. Blue sky, but If you could get Genetic information you might be able to identify certain correlations between images/structures and the people who feel them. Or focus on those with strong reactions. I suspect t

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread Gibson Elliot
John My big HP monitor is too hot at even 4 inches for me to feel anything with my palm but the heat coming off the thing. Part of it may in fact be that I have to force my hand at an odd angle to do this and that causes stresses in the hand, ligaments, vessels blood flow etc... Are you using

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
Subtle changes in the image and it would be very different. Ok, here, I made 2 images, I wanted them to look almost identical, one is active and one isn't, I just went ahead and labeled them, so if you wanted a blind test no luck. http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9209/activeandinactive.png I w

RE: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread Jones Beene
From: Gibson Elliot Subject: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here? John I think you should read this http://www.rexresearch.com/grebenn/grebenn.htm, I believe you'll see as I did that the authors story suggests cre

RE: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread Jones Beene
These are very unusual images. They do elicit emotion. Some of that could be based on similarities to known symbolism as opposed to an aether effect, but then again, that symbolism itself may derive from some kind of primitive understanding of the way that optical images interact with brain ne

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread Gibson Elliot
John  I examined your images in series from your last post, and I have to say at the very least I could feel sensations in my head as I gazed upon them.  Mind you, as I initially just skimmed your emails, I didn't see the part about your expectations before I wrote the following, and it appears

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
No replies, hmmm. I have sent this to 5 people on this list privately. 2 have repoted back, they both felt something. (one of those took a while before I made one he could feel) And 3 failed to reply all together, ignoring me outright. So I can image some peoples minds might be too limited to tr

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-17 Thread Alan Fletcher
35+ Reasons Why I Think Yildiz' Magnet Motor Really Works http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:_35%2B_Reasons_Why_I_Think_Yildiz%27_Magnet_Motor_Really_Works Reasons include: no heat, it runs at ambient temperature • Dr. Jorge Duarte has measured 240 Watts for 5 hours and has seen inside: "no bat

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Depressing statistic about North Korea

2013-04-17 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I think that money in North Korea is slightly different thing compared on what we have used to. This does not however make this topic any less depressing. Interesting thing that I learned today was that Costa Rica abolished their military altogether in 1948 and they have had plenty of resources

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-17 Thread Susanna Gipp
I know where it takes place ... in the tenth of thousand of "warm regards"! 2013/4/17 Alan Fletcher > At 01:23 AM 4/17/2013, Teslaalset wrote: > >> This is in contradiction with the performance of Rossi's 'hot cat' where >> he's getting >1000 degrees C. >> Copper melts at 1083 degrees C. >> >

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-17 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 01:23 AM 4/17/2013, Teslaalset wrote: This is in contradiction with the performance of Rossi's 'hot cat' where he's getting >1000 degrees C. Copper melts at 1083 degrees C. The thermalization takes place elsewhere ... in particular, away from the nickel/hydrogen, where the patent says 500C

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
Has no one tried it yet? On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:56 AM, John Berry wrote: > And a 3rd image to try to feel, this contains recent development with > some previous ones. > http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6251/rotational.png > > All in an effort to reduce the odds of having people report th

Re: [Vo]:QED and LENR+

2013-04-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you, the scientific story becomes more and more interesting. Peter On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > One of the key characteristics of the quantum world is that light and > matter can combine. This quantum electrodynamics (QED) condition is central > the transmission and

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Depressing statistic about North Korea

2013-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
NHK reported the other day that the money North Korea has spent on its rocked and nuclear bomb tests in the last few years has been enough to buy enough corn to feed the entire population for three years. Elsewhere I read that North Korea's GDP is $40 billion. Samsung's annual sales are $220 billi

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Eric, I am not sure why Michaelson and Morely expected to find any drift in a “spatial” direction.. all the relativistic evidence shows that acceleration only results in a temporal displacement..that is to say that time and ether share the same axis at 90 degrees to all 3 spatial

RE: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-17 Thread DJ Cravens
Recall that many codeposit approaches (see Boss for example) use Pd on Copper or Ni on Cu. Cu and Au are often helpful in fine powders or in the production of "black" for these kinds of experiments. D2 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 01:54:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates From: hveeder.

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
And a 3rd image to try to feel, this contains recent development with some previous ones. http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6251/rotational.png All in an effort to reduce the odds of having people report they don't feel anything. Again, best in a dark room (but not required). Feel for any sens

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
A worthwhile improvement for both images: http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1139/lateststrongest4.png http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6029/shooterv54.png On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:32 PM, John Berry wrote: > I sent the wrong image by mistake, the first link should have been this > one: > h

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Patent updates

2013-04-17 Thread Teslaalset
This is in contradiction with the performance of Rossi's 'hot cat' where he's getting >1000 degrees C. Copper melts at 1083 degrees C. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Rossi might have tried a ready made nickel-copper heat exchanger as his > reactor, because they have lot

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
I sent the wrong image by mistake, the first link should have been this one: http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4411/thelateststrongest2.png

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
William, please read my previous emails and give feeling the energy a try. Anyway, as to the reference frame debate, if there were an aether that was not entrained by the earth, then a drift should have been detected by now. But the model I am using is of an aether, a substance to space that is d

Re: [Vo]:Any experimenters, aether theorists here?

2013-04-17 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:20:59, John Berry wrote: > I can probably prove the reality of this to anyone interested with the > investment of only 2-3 minutes and no materials needed. OK. No materials, so this sounds like a subjective-perception 'psychic phenomenon' demo? Much more convincing is to

Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

2013-04-17 Thread John Berry
It is worth noting that Yildiz might not have expected his motor to fail. And as such did not think that the load was very important. A fan is a perfect load for being unobtrusive, imagine the doubt if he had it turn an electrical generator? And unlike a prony brake (plus you would not leave a fric