[Vo]:Where have you got to?

2014-04-30 Thread John Newman
Dear Friends at Vortex I have suddenly lost contact with you. Don't know why or how, but I have not received emails for what seems like about 10 days. I enjoy well over half the posts, and find that I'm missing it all. Please reconnect me! John Newman

[Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Things are a mess! No power at office yesterday morning, and the telephone equipment was hit by lightning and is not functional. Many traffic lights are off, so commuting is slow. See: http://outagemap.georgiapower.com/external/default.html

Re: [Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
Right now, I think we are worse off than the dinosaurs, at least they knew how to scavenge. If we lose power for an extended period of time due to a natural disaster we are hosed. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Things are a mess! No power at office

Re: [Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Right now, I think we are worse off than the dinosaurs, at least they knew how to scavenge. If we lose power for an extended period of time due to a natural disaster we are hosed. Winston Churchill described that in his 1932 essay, Fifty Years Hence. I

[Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance

2014-04-30 Thread David Roberson
We have been discussing spin coupling as one element that might allow LENR to proceed without dangerous radiation emissions. And, it is well known that super conductive materials use Cooper pairs of electrons to operate. The fact that a pair of electrons can work together even though they are

RE: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance

2014-04-30 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Dave asked: The fact that a pair of electrons can work together even though they are repelled by the electric charge they possess leads me to wonder how they ever work as a pair. Just one more of the inconsistencies in modern fizzix dogma. If the electron/hole is modeled as a dipole-like

Re: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance

2014-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
Electrons can take on a large number of phases of matter based on how they move relative to each other. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121221233120.htm The 500 phases of matter: New system successfully classifies symmetry-protected phases One possibility is that an electron

Re: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance

2014-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
More... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_fermion The Fractional Quantum Hall Effect causes a reduction in the charge of the electron in quantum fractional steps. A magnetic field generates two paired vortexes (magnetic flux quanta) to form that are connected to the electron. The

[Vo]:QHO and CMB

2014-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
Wiki has a pretty good entry for the quantum harmonic oscillator - which is a most important system in QM, since it has a direct real world analogy - and possibly is also relevant for alternative energy. In short the QHO can be (arguably) applicable to the Dirac sea and the epo field, and efforts

[Vo]:let’s get quantum digital

2014-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2014/apr/29/quantum-telescope-could-make-giant-mirrors-obsolete Quantum telescope could make giant mirrors obsolete “When a photon enters an aperture of a telescope, the uncertainty in its position is reduced to the radius of that aperture. Moreover,

Re: [Vo]:QHO and CMB

2014-04-30 Thread David Roberson
Jones, If we discover how to put ZPE to work, does that by definition suggest that we are extracting energy from the vacuum that would have been directed toward expansion of the universe? This leads to an interesting mind experiment. Suppose a method is conceived of that allows one to

Re: [Vo]:let’s get quantum digital

2014-04-30 Thread David Roberson
Too bad that you would be reading very old news Axil! By this time that alien and likely his species has become extinct. You need a better link. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 12:47 pm

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:let’s get quantum digital

2014-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
What's the difference between a newspaper and a history book? Time. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:24 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Too bad that you would be reading very old news Axil! By this time that alien and likely his species has become extinct. You need a better link.

Re: [Vo]:Where have you got to?

2014-04-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Check your spam file! Many people report Vortex messages are going into the spam file. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:48 AM, John Newman johnws.new...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: *Dear Friends at Vortex* *I have suddenly lost contact with you. Don’t know why or how, but I have not received

RE: [Vo]:QHO and CMB

2014-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson If we discover how to put ZPE to work, does that by definition suggest that we are extracting energy from the vacuum that would have been directed toward expansion of the universe? This leads to an interesting mind experiment. Suppose a method is conceived of that

Re: [Vo]:QHO and CMB

2014-04-30 Thread David Roberson
Seems like a pretty good plan. But then future generations might have to worry about the big crunch if the balance is not achieved. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 2:53 pm Subject: RE:

Re: [Vo]:36,000 people without power in Georgia just now

2014-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Winston Churchill described that in his 1932 essay, Fifty Years Hence. I can dig up the quote here once the power comes back. Careful quoting WC:

[Vo]:Nano vortex formation is a certainty

2014-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
When we pile together a lot of particles with spin into a critically small volume, the particles will self-generate a vortex current with a anapole magnetic field projecting normal from one side of the vortex. This is a magnetic monopole quasiparticle. See here

RE: [Vo]:QHO and CMB

2014-04-30 Thread Jones Beene
which is the way the world ends… with a bang or a whimper ? From: David Roberson Seems like a pretty good plan. But then future generations might have to worry about the big crunch if the balance is not achieved. We’ve been outed. Yup, LENR advocates are acting as tools of the

Re: [Vo]:Seeing the Vacuum

2014-04-30 Thread Bob Cook
Check out this latest CERN report. It helps confirms the methods of interfacing with the vacuum VOTEXERS have be recently discussed. Bob http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/56940 - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30,

Re: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance

2014-04-30 Thread Bob Cook
Dave-- Also it has been my concept that the pair act like a -2 charge in an atom. The dipole interaction distance is fairly short compared to the 1/r associated with a bare charge. I also like to think of the attraction as a spin coupling effect not unlike the spin orbit force discussed in

Re: [Vo]:QHO and CMB

2014-04-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: expansion = entropy = evil You forgot the obligatory Bwwwaaahaaahaa

Re: [Vo]:Seeing the Vacuum

2014-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/140307/ncomms4441/fig_tab/ncomms4441_F2.html more pictures and diagrams of vacuum energy. http://www.useoul.edu/research/highlights more words on the vacuum energy determination. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance

2014-04-30 Thread David Roberson
Bob, I am a bit confused about how the electron pair acts like a -2 charge in an atom according to your theory. Do you visualize the -2 charge pair orbiting a nucleus of hydrogen for example in this description? Or, are they moving together as a pair that does not require a positive charge

Re: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance

2014-04-30 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v406/n6798/abs/406863a0.html *Cooper instability of composite fermions* This should answer your question about cooper pairing and how it happens. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:21 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Bob, I am a bit confused about