Re: [Vo]:Alternate Calculation and Calibration Method for Mizuno Report

This is really good news Jed. Now the calorimeter seems to be working in the right way [stable ambient and enough time, as we said at the beginning of the discussion]. From your short data presented I suppose it took 7 hours for the cooling liquid to reach a final stable average temperature. From n

Re: [Vo]:Jed's Results Look Good So Far

Great Your results look very meaningful, Dave. We are still thinking about the problem of not uniform temperature across the reactor vessel just after the power pulse are applied, but it seems to me that you have solved them. I hope to read the full report very soon. GG 2015-01-16 5:29 GMT+01:0

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

01:00 Jed Rothwell : > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > > >> you continue to be wrong. >> If you have constant ambient and constant heat source the temperature >> difference will stay constant. No exponential decrease. Sorry. >> > > If the power remains the same for th

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Jed, you continue to be wrong. If you have constant ambient and constant heat source the temperature difference will stay constant. No exponential decrease. Sorry. 2015-01-14 21:16 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell : > I wrote: > > >> 2) The cooling body has no internal source of heat >>> >> >> That is not

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

; need to determine whether or not we can match the curves of Jed with a > actual input signal due to LENR using your model. > > I also still believe that the pump power is less than you are > considering. Nevertheless, I will keep an open mind and give your model an > opportunity to show it

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

are using is extremely > simple and certainly does not suggest that anything more complex would be > happening. > > How do you explain that the delta is increasing? Is there some process > that is supplying extra power into the Dewar once the pump is turned off? > > Regards, >

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

y that the room temperature stay constant. Why do you insist on that? Ask Dave... Maybe you can trust him better than me. Regards 2015-01-13 20:05 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell : > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > > >> The refrigerator example is quite evident, but is unfit to our situation, >>

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

iginal Message- > From: Jed Rothwell > To: vortex-l > Sent: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 2:06 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised > > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > > >>The refrigerator example is quite evident, but is unf

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

ow you and Mizuno the results, hopefully at ICCF-19. Will you be there? Regards 2015-01-13 16:52 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell : > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > > >> I could say that this is false but I will be fair and I will say that >> this is not true. From the missing file (Mizuno&

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Dear Jed, in your report you write: *The temperature rose for 1.5 hours until it stabilized 0.6°Cabove room temperature (Fig. 19.) It stabilized because heat losses equal the power from thepump. In other words, with low input power after 1.5 hours, this system acts as an isoperibolicc

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

nothing more than those associated with operation in a > different pump pressure range and a damaged pump. These types of questions > remain unanswered. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Gigi DiMarco > To: vortex-l > Sent: Mon, Jan 12, 2015 5:34 pm

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Jed Rothwell : > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > > > The major result is that we measured 43°C in the pump body very close to >> the water so it is really easy to understand that, despite what Jed says, >> the pump motor delivers a lot of heat to the water . . . >> > > Y

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

excess heat. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Gigi DiMarco >> wrote: >> >>> Dave, >>> >>> as promised and while you still insist saying that we were deeply wrong, >>> we have put on-line two different updates >>

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

can perform to help verify the > facts. I like the horizontal flow demonstration that you used to measure > the mass flow rate for the 5 mm tubing. Can you do the same with 10 mm as > a beginning step? > > Best Regards, > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

ing the pump doesn't change speed). > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> Gigi DiMarco wrote: >> >> >> The major result is that we measured 43°C in the pump body very close to >>> the water so it is really easy to understand

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Dave, as promised and while you still insist saying that we were deeply wrong, we have put on-line two different updates 1) https://gsvit.wordpress.com/2015/01/12/further-measurements-on-the-md-6k-n-pump-used-by-tadahiko-mizuno/ 2) https://gsvit.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/analysis-of-jed-rothwells

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Maybe MUMP should barrow the Mizuno test setup and run the same test with > their own monitoring and ambient condition controls. The radiation > monitors should not be necessary to barrow. Even the recording computer > would not have to be barrowed. > > Bob Cook > > > > >

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

results. We could discuss in detail the matter at ICCF-19. *Many thanks* 2015-01-10 18:28 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell : > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > > >> just as an example, in the missing file, in the row 989 which corresponds >> to 24131.191 seconds the room temperature is 1

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Jan 10, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Gigi DiMarco > wrote: > > Two of us measured and discovered the Defkalion trick in the water flow >> measurement (or do you think it was really Gamberale?); if you like I can >> send you the proofs privately. >> > > Hi Giancarlo, >

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Peter, I fully agree with you: the time will tell the truth. The cause was a water wave bouncing forth and back so that to provide extra pulses in the flowmeter. There is an oscilloscope photo taken by connecting it to the flowmeter. What you simply miss is that it was very simple to obtain a high

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Dear Dave, you still insist on your calculation neglecting what I wrote to you in an earlier message regarding the fact that increasing the pipe the power goes to zero when calculated according to your mathematics. We have just published the new experiment with the theory and diagrams behind it.

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Jed, just as an example, in the missing file, in the row 989 which corresponds to 24131.191 seconds the room temperature is 18.78 °C and the water temperature is 21.90. Doing some mathematics we get that the temperature difference is 3.13 °C that appears to be higher than what you say. Why did yo

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

e decreases shall we have a negative excess heat? Think about it. Truth is the best for anybody. Regards 2015-01-10 16:16 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell : > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > > >> . . . for example what about the heat transferred from the motor to the >> water? Jed says it i

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

rtant people became mindguard for > that individual failure, transforming the tragedy of 5-10 egotic people > into a western academic tragedy. > > maybe Mizuno made an error, but your demo, the conspiracy theory behind, > is even worse than Rossi's demo, and charge of evidence

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

Alain, I'm not accusing anyone of having hidden an excel file; I'm just saying that Jed removed that file from his archives where I found it several weeks ago. I don't know why he removed it, maybe he could explain... Jed says it is of no importance to the present discussion; I find it of paramou

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

as a result of acceleration of the coolant by your pumps. > Perhaps you have seen where the coolant appears to be hotter than can be > accurately attributed to the expected pipe friction when the power > amplifiers are shut down? Of course it is possible that all excess heating > in

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

So far that has not happened. > > Take the time to add support to your position or you should back away from > taking such a negative stance. I consider it poor form to hide behind > obscure generalities. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Gigi

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

he kinetic energy of water > that is about to enter the intake pipe of the pump. Do you agree that the > difference in heat must be deposited within the standing liquid? > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Gigi DiMarco > To: vortex-l > Sent: Thu

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

-01-08 16:39 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell : > Gigi DiMarco wrote: > >> This is completely wrong: the pump power is not transformed into kinetic >> enegy of the water, otherwise you will get after a while an infinite >> velocity, not only for the water inside the tube but for

Re: [Vo]:"Report on Mizuno's Adiabatic Calorimetry" revised

*>>Kinetic energy of the water carries the power into the storage medium so it can be calculated by the reliable formula E=1/2*M*V^2.>>* This is completely wrong: the pump power is not transformed into kinetic enegy of the water, otherwise you will get after a while an infinite velocity, not only

[Vo]:WLT Disproof

The following paper: Low Energy Neutron Production by Inverse-beta decay in Metallic Hydride Surfaces S. Ciuchi , L. Maiani , A. D. Polosa

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

I think Rossi is adding to English more words, coming in some sense from Italian, than in the last 5 centuries. Clownerie has been translated by Akira into travesty. Clownerie is another Rossi's invention, if I can imagine what take places into his brain I think the right path is clown ==> pagliac

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aybe the "strange" equal sign has a different meaning from what I could imagine. I've still some concerns about the assumptions, but this is another issue, I'll keep you informed if I found other discrepancies. Thank you for your attention Grazie dell'interesse, Giovanni.

vortex-l@eskimo.com

I've a problem with the W&L theory. I read carefully their published paper http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/2006/2006Widom-UltraLowMomentumNeutronCatalyzed.pdf and I found what seems to me to be a major flaw. I'm sure I'm totally wrong but I would ask you to check. It is only arithmetics, no

[Vo]:hydrogen refill

I don't know if it was already reported but I found some oddies in the hydrogen consumption October 6th test, from Lewan's report Weight hydrogen bottle: - before filling: 13606.4 grams - after filling: 13604.9 grams Total loaded: 1.5 grams Pressure H2 Bottle: 55 bar Reduced: 15 bar October 28th