To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
I guess this is also Frank Znidarsic contention:
If the range of the strong nuclear force increased beyond the
electrostatic potential barrier a nucleon would feel the nuclear
, May 25, 2012 2:30 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
personally i don't believe nature (or god) balances the books for every process.
e only need CoE to hold for our measuring instruments.
arry
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:09 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote
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From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
I guess this is also Frank Znidarsic contention:
If the range of the strong nuclear force increased beyond
When two like charged participles are cooper paired together, do they still
have charge? They may not. Their charge may be delocalized and exist at a
location that is far distant from the spin part of them.
If they both had the same charge, how could they stick together?
A quasi-neutron…
As another way to over come the coloumb barrier, I vaguely recall a
paper proposing that the range of the strong force may reach further
under some circumstances.
Harry
I guess this is also Frank Znidarsic contention:
If the range of the strong nuclear force increased beyond the
electrostatic potential barrier a nucleon would feel the nuclear force
before it was repelled by the electrostatic force. Under this
situation nucleons would pass under the electrostatic
!
Dave
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From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
I guess this is also Frank Znidarsic contention:
If the range of the strong nuclear force increased
*It isn't clear to me why a cooper pair of protons would be of nuclear
dimensions, nor why they would be able to surmount the Coulomb barrier.*
Essentially, there exists no Coulomb barrier at the point of charge
concentration if that concentration is dense enough.
These days, I am interested in
I have been researching the cold fusion reaction that is suggested by Rossi and
Focardi in their recent paper
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Rossi-Focardi_paper.pdf and
have a couple of questions. The authors suggest that 3.41 MeV of energy is
released by the fusion of a
the the second floor to end their journey.
This is the nature of all activation energy barriers.
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
From: dlrober...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:35:41 -0400
I have been researching the cold fusion reaction
, 2012 1:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
Your calculation does not take into account the fact that the activation energy
barrier releases the energy added to overcome it during the reaction. In this
case once coulomb repulsion is overcome, the energy is added
Are you discounting QM and quantum tunneling?
One could say that the in tunneling - threshold energy is briefly borrowed
and then a short time later, the debt is repaid – before the net gain is
obvious.
From: David Roberson
Could you help me understand how the 5.6 MeV is
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From: Finlay MacNab finlaymac...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 1:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
Your calculation does not take into account the fact that the activation energy
barrier releases
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From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 5:22 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
Are you discounting QM and quantum tunneling?
One could say that the in tunneling - threshold energy is briefly borrowed
22, 2012 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
That idea crossed my mind but I still do not know where the 5.6 MeV of energy
imparted upon the proton wound up. If the path were exothermic I would expect
to be able to recover(or at least locate) all of the 5.6 MeV
that it has a single proton nucleus. Iron cannot fuse with itself
inside a star because the resultant reaction would be endothermic, this is why
stars burn out, not because of H + Fe fusion.
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
From: dlrober
Awkshully, the most stable isotope in the periodic table is not one of iron’s
major isotopes.
62Ni has the highest binding energy per nucleon of all isotopes, including
iron, even though the average binding energy per nucleon for iron is slightly
higher than nickel.
Another reason that
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
That idea crossed my mind but I still do not know where the 5.6 MeV of
energy imparted upon the proton wound up. If the path were exothermic I
would expect to be able to recover(or at least locate) all of the 5.6 MeV
as well as some
the original input proton energy of 5.6 MeV is assumed to be
unimportant as you suggest.
Dave
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From: Finlay MacNab finlaymac...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 5:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic
I also suspect that the reaction is a bit more complex than a single hydrogen
fusion.
Dave
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From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic
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From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 6:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
Awkshully, the most stable isotope in the periodic table is not one of iron’s
major isotopes.
62Ni has
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
**
Another reason that Focardi/Rossi’s claim of nickel going to copper is
brain-dead.
Or a gambit intended to divert attention from what is really going on.
Eric
: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic?
There are a number of assumptions at issue in this tread that I would
like to counter. I believe that a cooper pair of Protons fuses
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