RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-06 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
...@bigpond.com Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 9:10:04 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation? In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 6 Apr 2019 03:39:40 +: Hi, A minor variation is the possibility that it's the excess positron

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread Axil Axil
The key to the Holmlid effect is the creation of CP violation. What can produce this condition? There is a upcoming version of QM that uses complex numbers and four-dimensional Riemann space. It's used to handle open systems. It is called PT-symmetric quantum mechanics. PT-symmetric quantum

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread mixent
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Sat, 6 Apr 2019 03:39:40 +: Hi, A minor variation is the possibility that it's the excess positron that is responsible for the stability of the whole proton. If an intruding electron were to annihilate that positron, then the whole proton

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
, 2019 4:50:55 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation? https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2019/03/29/no-physicists-still-dont-know-why-matter-and-not-antimatter-dominates-our-universe/#4a6e2cd25826 As per Andrei Sakharov We've known how to create more matter

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
. Bob Cook From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 4:34:09 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation? In reply to JonesBeene's message of Fri, 5 Apr 2019 15:31:57 -0700: Hi Jones, [snip

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2019/03/29/no-physicists-still-dont-know-why-matter-and-not-antimatter-dominates-our-universe/#4a6e2cd25826 As per Andrei Sakharov We've known how to create more matter than antimatter in theory since the late 1960s, when physicist Andrei Sakharov

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 06 Apr 2019 10:34:09 +1100: Hi, If all baryons are indeed composed of positron electron pairs, with an excess of a single positron in a proton, then all it would take to convert the proton into an anti-proton would be for an electron to replace

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Fri, 5 Apr 2019 15:31:57 -0700: Hi Jones, [snip] If such a mechanism exists, then it implies the relatively easy conversion of matter into anti-matter, and probably also the reverse. A slight asymmetry in the ease of conversion from one to the other may also

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread Axil Axil
Holmlid uses a crystal frequency doubler ( 1064 to 532 nm ) which polarizes the laser light to a single handedness. The chirality of the EMF, both fields and particles, are very important to the LENR reaction. The strong force is a chiral force.

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread JonesBeene
Hi Robin, ➢ It violates conservation of charge unless one can simultaneously flip the charge of an electron, which would be the equivalent of getting a proton and an electron to swap charges. Hmmm… Perhaps that is exactly what happens on a transient basis. Some kind of double charge reversal

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread Axil Axil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_violation There are mesons that change change. This is how there is a case put forth about why the universe holds only matter and not any antimatter. Holmlid got in trouble with particle physics for violating the conservation of baryon number. Protons and

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Fri, 5 Apr 2019 06:50:07 -0700: Hi Jones, You may be right. I was thinking in terms of conservation of energy, but upon further consideration, I am forced to admit, that it might be possible with the addition of zero energy. When a proton and an anti-proton

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread Axil Axil
More support for the magnetic flux tube posit on matter distruction as follows: This matter distruction issue is common to most LENR reactor designs. It becomes apparent when the reactor is pushed to high energy production levels. For example, in an interview that Dennis Cravens had with Host

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread Axil Axil
I think that what is going on is a change of state condition in the cloud of electrons that cover the positive core of the ultra-dense hydrogen (UDH) when the laser light hits the UDH. The Laser pulse greatly increases the density of the polariton population in the electron cloud so that a Bose

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
in understanding nucleon stability when irradiated by a laser such as used by Holmlid in his experiments. Bob Cook - From: JonesBeene Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 11:19:47 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread JonesBeene
… correction… meant to say the photons of the laser which provides the input for the Holmlid effect have  an individual mass-energy of less than  one eV. To put that into the context of charge conjugation – there are a few papers out there such as “Direct, Resonant Production of States with

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread JonesBeene
A yellow-green laser pulse – according to Holmlid and replicated by Olafsson in Iceland and Zeiner-Gunderson in Norway – produces a large number of muons per pulse. They have performed sophisticated measurements to ascertain this. The photons of the laser which provides the input for the

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-05 Thread JonesBeene
Hi Robin > In order to flip the charge, you probably need to add the difference in > energy, i.e. 2 proton masses worth, or about 2 GeV. [snip] It is very doubtful that the entire mass-energy of a proton is to be found in charge alone which is the implication of what you are saying. For

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-04 Thread mixent
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Thu, 4 Apr 2019 17:25:32 -0700: Hi Jones, [snip] >Oops meant to say “antiproton” not “ antineutron.” Presumably laser >irradiation of dense > hydrogen would make antiprotons from protons by flipping the charge. The > antimatter > then annihilates with

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-04 Thread Axil Axil
I hear that a spark does just as well as a laser pulse. On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 2:19 PM JonesBeene wrote: > One of the big knocks about the Holmlid effect – where the claim is that > hydrogen > > is completely annihilated- showing up primarily as muons, which then decay > (but > > can catalyze

RE: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-04 Thread JonesBeene
Oops meant to say “antiproton” not “ antineutron.” Presumably laser irradiation of dense hydrogen would make antiprotons from protons by flipping the charge. The antimatter then annihilates with matter… but without the GeV level of input formerly used… Perhaps either antiparticle is

Re: [Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-04 Thread H LV
Thinking about it as an engineer might, it could be that an individual proton is subjected to locally enormous stress which causes it to fail (disintegrate). Harry On Thu, Apr 4, 2019, 2:19 PM JonesBeene One of the big knocks about the Holmlid effect – where the claim is that > hydrogen > > is

[Vo]:A backdoor to proton annihilation?

2019-04-04 Thread JonesBeene
One of the big knocks about the Holmlid effect – where the claim is that hydrogen is completely annihilated- showing up primarily as muons, which then decay (but can catalyze fusion before decay) is the low input energy used by Holmlid. This annihilation process is well known in beamlines at