Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread Axil Axil
According to this paper, clusters of atoms drop the coulomb barrier. The paper you reference in thiis post sites this as a cause of coulomb barrier lowering. Cheers: Axil http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Features-and-Giant-Acceleration.pdf On Sun, Aug

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread Axil Axil
The super-atom produced as a large collection of coherent and entangled particles can completely lowers the Coulomb barrier. This is how atomic clustering fits into the LENR+ process. see *www.iscmns.org/work10/VysotskiiVapplicatio.ppt* ** ** *Cheers: Axil* ** On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
Super Atom or ultra dense atomic clusters: It can be expected that any radiation escaping this super atom will be reshifted to lower frequencies and energy levels and that any particles approaching this super atom will be blueshifted to extremely high frequencies and energy levels. Very

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
Let's assume these Super Atoms or Super Atom Clusters obey the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle as do other particles. On one hand they can reward you with redshifted lower energy radiation usable as heat but on the other hand they consume and destroy all matter within their gravitational reach.

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread David Roberson
Axil, perhaps there is something going on that results in the lowering of the barrier. I have to ask where the additional energy comes from to satisfy the actual energy needed? If it is taken from other particles that might make sense, otherwise it sounds like a free lunch. Dave

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
Quantum gravity blueshifts the incoming particles/radiation to ultrahigh frequencies and ultrahigh energy levels right near its surface. It is this high energy level which busts up the coloumb barrier of atoms pulled close. It is the same effect in reverse which makes any energy leaving this

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Aim for the shield generator, or get a man on the inside to switch it off. harry On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The super-atom produced as a large collection of coherent and entangled particles can completely lowers the Coulomb barrier. This is how atomic

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread Axil Axil
If you can think of the coulomb barrier as a soldier, a very good and strong one, this hero, can defeat any individual soldier of the opposing army. Even if the opposing army attacks our hero one fighter at a time the hero can resist the attack since the attack is uncoordinated. But when the

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree. I also believe this army is wearing blue uniforms. These are all blue-shifted high energy particle/waves working together as a concentrated and cohesive force at the location of the battle (horizon). Nothing can stop them, neither matter or energy as they consume both. You might be

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread David Roberson
Yeah, the group can defeat the guy soundly! I also believe that there is some form of coordinated effort that overcomes the coulomb barrier. I am merely searching for the lost energy that is required and attempting to see from where it originates. My suspicion is that the surrounding atoms

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
David, Yes, it is borrowing the energy from the red-shifted low energy radiation leaving the surface and focusing it with the blueshifted high energy radiation at the point of battle at the surface. Total energy stays the same, perfect conservation. Velocity of all particles stay the same, just

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
Well, now that I think about it, I am not really sure they need to borrow any energy, the Blue-shifting of the incoming particle waves diverging upon the same point in space might be enough to do it by themselves. Need to break out the calculator. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:50 PM, ChemE Stewart

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread David Roberson
Those blue shifted particles would need to shift a fair distance to reach the energy of the barrier. The shift would need to be several MeV to reach the coulomb barrier level. I think that we should make every attempt to preserve the COE when we consider LENR reactions. If a barrier is set,

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08:15 PM Subject: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device If you open this link: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulated-LENR-Paper.pdf It turns out that

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
I read it too. The work has also been published in an influential peer-reviewed journal, JETP (Journal of Experimental and Theoretical Physics), a leading Russian journal also published in English: http://www.springerlink.com/content/rup025083t105q83/ It is hard to know what to make of this. It

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:08:43 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08:15 PM Subject: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device If you open this link: