Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread Axil Axil
How can you have the fractional quantum hall effect at high temperatures? The same way that a Bose Einstein condensate can form at temperatures up to 2300K. It is a matter of the weight of the quasi-particle. a quasi-particle with almost no weight can produce high temperature reactions. On Sat,

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Axil Axil wrote: What the Fractional Quantum Hall Effect (FQHE) shows is that charge > screening in topologically constrained fermions will occur in the direction > of complete charge screening as the strength of a tightly focused magnetic > field is increased (t

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread Axil Axil
>> Perhaps sufficient screening can bring nucleons within 10s of fermis of one another. What the Fractional Quantum Hall Effect (FQHE) shows is that charge screening in topologically constrained fermions will occur in the direction of complete charge screening as the strength of a tightly focused

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: In my own case I'm not thinking of hydrinos. I'm thinking of brief but > sharp transients in the electronic structure of the host metal that > intervene between two fusion precursors. > Btw, for those who are interested, here is a drawing I put together to give a sense of this particula

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread John Franks
Vortex, I contacted Remi after tracking down his email and he writes below -- Forwarded message -- From: Remi Cornwall Date: Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 6:51 PM Subject: RE: Thermo-converter and other things To: John Franks Dear John, Thank you for showing interest and contacting me. Y

RE: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker John Franks wrote: >> Perhaps sufficient screening can bring nucleons within 10s of fermis of one >> another. In my own case I'm not thinking of hydrinos. I'm thinking of brief but sharp transients in the electronic structure of the host metal that intervene b

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 2:08 AM, John Franks wrote: >> Perhaps sufficient screening can bring nucleons within 10s of fermis of > one another. > In my own case I'm not thinking of hydrinos. I'm thinking of brief but sharp transients in the electronic structure of the host metal that intervene be

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread John Franks
>> If LENR is real, as many experiments indicate... >> still un-taught in University >> nuclear physics, where admittedly it does not fit well. Not convinced. >> But in contrast to the large amount of positive lab results in LENR ??? Sounds pathological. Church of the converted. >> Experiment r

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-14 Thread John Franks
>> Perhaps sufficient screening can bring nucleons within 10s of fermis of one another. You mean muonic hydrogen and yes that does work. For hydrogen made with electrons (lattice or not once again), you can't get lower than the ground state. This is nothing to do with lack of imagination, more wis

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-13 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:04 PM, John Franks wrote: LENR has been going on for years and I and others just can't see how you can > bring nucleons within 10s of fermi of each other to fuse, lattice or no > lattice. > About twenty four years, if Paneth and Peters aren't considered. Perhaps suffic

RE: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-13 Thread Jones Beene
Hi John, Your level of intelligent skepticism towards LENR is not atypical, but IMO it is unwise to try to wedge this niche into prior tenets of nuclear physics, where admittedly it does not fit well. If LENR is real, as many experiments indicate, it is because there are new types of nucle

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-13 Thread John Franks
Jones, I don't know, this guy is at a really good university and its been signed off by some top academics. He seems to be in the middle of his work and the theory is well based on experimental fact and he has a rationale. LENR has been going on for years and I and others just can't see how you c

Re: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-13 Thread pagnucco
John, Thanks for pointing this out. I printed the first paper. There are a number of papers looking at ways to beat (at least the conventional form of) the 2nd law. It is very impossible to keep up with all of them. Many, and maybe all, could be mistaken due to incomplete system modeling. Only

RE: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-13 Thread Jones Beene
For many years Remi was posting his thermoelectric ideas here, and he is a clever guy. I hope that he has now discovered a new thermal cycle, but to be honest - I have much more faith in LENR than in new thermal cycles. But there is overlap ! As a factual matter, thermoelectric converters - the

[Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-13 Thread John Franks
Hi vortex, I found this which says it is a Maxwell Demon, http://vixra.org/abs/1311.0077 http://vixra.org/abs/1311.0078 Regards, John.

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread Frank roarty
@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:52 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons It has been shown that information can be converted into energy: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428670/entangled-particles-break-classi cal-law-of

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread Axil Axil
Since all mass comes from the Higgs field; and E=MC2, then all energy comes from the Higgs field or the vacuum. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM, wrote: > Axil, > > This is a perplexing issue. > The environment seems to hate many entangled states, and tries to destroy > them, even when they are i

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread pagnucco
Axil, This is a perplexing issue. The environment seems to hate many entangled states, and tries to destroy them, even when they are in a deeper energy well than the disentangled states they generate. Maybe sometimes the energy to disentangle them does come from vacuum energy. I wish I knew for

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread Axil Axil
More... There is every indication that the Ni/H reactor remains entangled when in the process of energy production. These indications include gamma ray thermalization using entangled superatoms and super-fluidic heat transfer. Is it true to say that an entangled thermodynamic system will extrac

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread ChemE Stewart
Lot's of decohering/oscillating/collapsing wave functions best I can figure I like to stick to looking for the big stuff... On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM, wrote: > Fran and ChemE, > > I wish I could add some explanations, but all I can add are more examples > of (real or apparent?) anomalies

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread Axil Axil
It has been shown that information can be converted into energy: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428670/entangled-particles-break-classical-law-of-thermodynamics-say-physicists/ *Entangled Particles Break Classical Law of Thermodynamics, Say Physicists* The Ni/H reactor may be a syste

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread pagnucco
Fran and ChemE, I wish I could add some explanations, but all I can add are more examples of (real or apparent?) anomalies and paradoxes seemingly related to physical interactions and boundary effects. Perhaps of interest: Mystery of neutron-lifetime discrepancy deepens http://physicsworld.com/c

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread ChemE Stewart
he constant >> change in geometry changes the dilation rate and compounds the reaction >> rate from our perspective. I think gas ages more rapidly in a catalyst and >> it is only recently that these half life anomalies are starting to be >> investigated. >> >> Fran >> >&g

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread ChemE Stewart
'cheme...@gmail.com');>] > *Sent:* Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:50 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com 'vortex-l@eskimo.com');> > *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons > > > > I agree it points back to "TIME", but if

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread Frank roarty
.@htdconnect.com] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Fran, An interesting perspective. Perhaps related to a paper in my stack (which I have yet only perused)? - "Quantum Measurement Information as a key

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread ChemE Stewart
s... It all > keeps pointing back to TIME. > Fran > > > > -Original Message----- > From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:59 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-08 Thread Frank roarty
rom: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Fran, An interesting perspective. Perhaps related to a paper in my stack (which I have yet only peruse

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-06 Thread pagnucco
05, 2013 11:53 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons > > Those interested in thermodynamics may find the following worthwhile: > > Some recent papers showing that Maxwell's demon may not require energy - > > "Sin

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-06 Thread Roarty, Francis X
pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Those interested in thermodynamics may find the following worthwhile: Some recent papers showing that Maxwell'

[Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons

2013-12-05 Thread pagnucco
Those interested in thermodynamics may find the following worthwhile: Some recent papers showing that Maxwell's demon may not require energy - "Single-reservoir heat engine: Controlling the spin" http://fqmt.fzu.cz/13/pdfabstracts/605_1f.pdf "Beyond Landauer Erasure" http://www.mdpi.com/1099-430