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From: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com
To: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got
evidence, post it!
It is obvious Defkalion knows about the catalyst
and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You got evidence,
post it!
There are rumors that Rossi and Defkalion have split up. However, no evidence
has been presented.
If you have evidence, present it.
Otherwise, this is just rumor mongering.
On 2011-08-07 07:38, noone noone wrote:
There are rumors that Rossi and Defkalion have split up. However, no
evidence has been presented.
If you have evidence, present it.
Here's the evidence, straight from Rossi:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501cpage=9#comment-59867
Andrea
Can we not get this Steorn holdover, whoever he really is, removed from this
list ?
He refuses to post under a real name. He bad-mouths everyone who does not
worship Rossi and has no apparent understanding of the science involved. Has
he ever contributed anything to our understanding of the
This is something. Hopefully it just tells that neither Defkalion nor Rossi
has real resources to make this technology commercially viable soon enough
and Rossi will just make technology publicly available and protected only by
Italian and soon international patent.
If this is not going to
On 2011-08-07 15:30, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
This is something. Hopefully it just tells that neither Defkalion nor
Rossi has real resources to make this technology commercially viable
soon enough and Rossi will just make technology publicly available and
protected only by Italian and soon
It seems Rossi's ways are inherently tortuous
Have asked my Greek friends and now I will see
what says Daniele if he knows more.
I have never ruined. a 200M euro business so I envy Rossi
But it is quite incredible..
.
Peter
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Akira Shirakawa
The big October demo in Greece is going to be cancelled ?
2011/8/7 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
It seems Rossi's ways are inherently tortuous
Have asked my Greek friends and now I will see
what says Daniele if he knows more.
I have never ruined. a 200M euro business so I envy Rossi
Will take place in the US with the collaboration of the greatest scientists
of the world (Who are they?)
This bizarre news is already on Daniele's 22 Passi blog
with no inside information yet. Defkalion site inactive.
Waiting for Prof Sremmenos's explanations too.
Peter
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at
On 2011-08-07 15:58, Andrea Selva wrote:
The big October demo in Greece is going to be cancelled ?
He's going to demonstrate his megawatt plant in the USA:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501cpage=9#comment-59881
Andrea Rossi
August 7th, 2011 at 9:00 AM
Dear Sterling:
I prefer
Andrea Rossi
August 7th, 2011 at 9:00 AM
Dear Sterling:
I prefer that the reasons will be cleared by a judge by a verdict. Facts,
not chatters, as usual with me. Our attorneys have filed a suit.
I confirm that our 1 MW plant will be put in operation in the USA, after
an agreement we made
At 02:06 AM 8/7/2011, noone noone wrote:
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From: noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com
To: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split Up RUMORMONGERING - You
got evidence, post
From Defkalion web page:
Company Structure
Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is based in Cyprus;
it owns the contract signed with the inventor regarding the industrial
secret with right of first refusal to sell globally except the US.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/profile
end
From Terry
Dear Sterling:
I prefer that the reasons will be cleared by a judge by a verdict.
Facts, not chatters, as usual with me. Our attorneys have filed a
suit. I confirm that our 1 MW plant will be put in operation in
the USA, after an agreement we made last week with one of the
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
From Defkalion web page:
Company Structure
Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is based in Cyprus;
it owns the contract signed with the inventor regarding the industrial
secret with right of first refusal to sell globally except the US.
LOL (well, OK, just chuckling, really)
And so Rossi's exit strategy from the Defkalion situation has
materialized. It's probably not quite what anyone expected, but it's
certainly gotten him off the hook for delivering anything to them.
Lots of tortuous explanations of the split are
Perhaps I should read all my mail before responding to the older
messages. Still, I don't think I embarassed myself by what I wrote.
At 09:12 AM 8/7/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
...
Here's the evidence, straight from Rossi:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501cpage=9#comment-59867
From Abd:
With some satisfaction, I suppose, I note that all those who defended
Rossi's claim by supposing that Defkalion had tested the technology
must now assume that either Rossi is lying or they were incorrect. I
don't think Rossi is lying, though he could be.
Fascinating.
Indeed
At 12:31 PM 8/7/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
From Defkalion web page:
Company Structure
Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is based in Cyprus;
it owns the contract signed with the inventor regarding the industrial
secret with right of first refusal to sell globally except the US.
At 12:34 PM 8/7/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Yup. Either Rossi is lying, or Defkalion is. It could not be more clear cut.
Nope. That's just more assumption masquerading as proof. It's
entirely possible that Defkalion is testing Hyperions, and Rossi did
not provide them. It's possible that they
Abd said...
Rossi could have and should have delegated response there to someone he
trusted.
If he trusts anyone!
Indeed, if I were Rossi, I'd have a hard time trusting anyone...
Assuming that Defkalion has 'played' Rossi, what I'd like to know is if
Stremmenos is complicit in
this
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Assuming that Defkalion has 'played' Rossi, what I'd like to know is if
Stremmenos is complicit in
this deception... I guess his years as a politician have corrupted his
integrity as a scientist.
Isn't anyone immune
Problems...
if not Major,
then are minor,
albeit many,
however,
now ever,
since obviously these very little crooked black ma r k s
right now,
wrong now,
occupy awareness,
then,
confusion
(not just about cold fusion)
is being imagined
within
single entire unified creative fractal
There are rumors that Rossi and Defkalion have split up. However, no evidence
has been presented.
If you have evidence, present it.
Otherwise, this is just rumor mongering.
Hold the presses.
Full Story at 5.
attachment: winmail.dat
5 of what timezone? What blog or newsource?
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Hold the presses.
Full Story at 5.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. IMO, AR is slowing their progress.
I think they are ready to progress the business and don't want to
wait on AR to have his 15 minutes of f(l)ame to
Also, if they wait until October, there might not be a Europe to save.
Besides, all the speculation due to Rossi's silly demonstrations is
hurting their image and potential business. They have glycol closed
loop systems ready for production and the walls are falling down
around them.
Damn
At 12:27 PM 8/5/2011, Jones Beene wrote:
Hold the presses.
I can't load that. Is there a link to it somewhere?
At 01:18 PM 8/5/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I can't load that. Is there a link to it somewhere?
I meant the winmail.dat attachment ... but that seems to be attached
to all your posts. I thought it contained the scoop on your hold the presses.
Too many alpha males trying to run the same pack.
Adjustments are inevitable.
Perhaps too many alpha females too. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Wait a minute! I thought Defkalion and Rossi were supposed to be in
cahoots with each other.
Well, shoot! Who's minding the conspiracy now!
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I meant the winmail.dat attachment ... but that seems to be attached to all
your posts. I thought it contained the scoop on your hold the presses.
That results from Jones' use of Outlook as his mailer.
T
...and another thing!
On a more serious note...
The split suggest to me that Defkalion's management may have finally
had enuf of Rossi's continued tinkering of his eCat design. When it
comes to meeting deadlines pertaining to the rollout of a brand new
product there comes a point when management
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi is an engineer - an inventor by nature. Engineers strike me as
often being in a perpetual state of tinkering with their inventions..
So true. In another life, I was a product engineer for a
Okay, this is from the Village of the Banned:
Meanwhile, back at the farm, I am in occasional email contact with a
member of a group who plan to go to Greece sometime in September for a
week of evaluation of a Defkalion Hyperion device. Information this
person sent me so far is that the testing
Did I say, she is also a skeptic; but, seems quite technical.
T
Do you have something to back this up, or are you just trolling again?
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?
Hold the presses.
Full Story at 5.
2011/8/6 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I meant the winmail.dat attachment ... but that seems to be attached to all
your posts. I thought it contained the scoop on your hold the presses.
That results from Jones' use of
- Original Message -
From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc:
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:40:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and Defkalion Split-up?
T oo many alpha males trying to run the same pack.
Adjustments are inevitable
Terry Blanton quotes Mary Yogo:
Edit to add: Also according to the same source, Rossi is considered
unreliable by Defkalion and they are proceeding with their program
more or less without him. His claims are, apparently, not their
claims.
I don't think this is true. Defkalion has
Its not an executable, .dat means its a data file. It has processing
instructions for outlook servers. Basically it means its not just
outlook, but a work server outlook.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/8/6 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:
On
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Damn straight, I'd separate myself from Rossi. He still gets his
€200M, after all.
Wasn't it €100M?
I hope he gets the money. He deserves it.
- Jed
Rossi will be fortunate indeed to avoid this and the next few years to
avoid or prevail some severe civil and criminal legal actions...
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Damn straight, I'd separate myself from
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Wasn't it €100M?
€200M and he gives half to childhood cancer. As I recall.
T
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