is acting.
Fran
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:04 AM
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Sunil Shah
s.u.n@hotmail.commailto:s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote:
This change
.
From: s.u.n@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:prototype for only $99,000
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:18:24 +0100
Their Feature description for the drive says Operates in a vacuum and at 1 ATM
/S
[snip]
... I seem to recall a test was finally conducted on one of these ion
for spatial thrust.
That's my theory and am sticking to it :_)
From: Sunil Shah [mailto:s.u.n@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:47 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:prototype for only $99,000
Ion propulsion? Microwave radiation thrust? No, it's
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote:
This change in an electric field is caused by the same force that gives us
time dilation and apparent length contraction. This effect can’t be altered
any amount of energy. So by using it to generate thrust you are in fact
Two things come to mind.
The physical configuration of the Static Displacement Field Drive Propulsion
System looks very different from the you tube examples of the Ion propulsion
devices. At present it's difficult for me to see the similarities - not that
there aren't! Perhaps it was the
Their Feature description for the drive says Operates in a vacuum and at 1 ATM
/S
[snip]
... I seem to recall a test was finally conducted on one of these ion
propulsion devices within a vacuum chamber and the propulsion effect...
disappeared. IOW, such a propulsion mechanism will not work out
Two different techs. The Biefeld-Brown Effect provides thrust by
ionization of the atmosphere with an asymmetrical capacitor and does
not work in a vacuum.
The EMdrive actually derives thrust (albeit small) from microwave
radiation and does work in a vacuum.
Ah! The Biefild-Brown Effect. Forgot what it was called.
So, this is different.
Thanks for the clarification, Terry.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
NASA's definitive effort on the Biefeld-Brown Effect:
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040171929.pdf
There remain some anomalies at very low pressures. :-)
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Ah! The Biefild-Brown Effect. Forgot what it was called.
What I find interesting is that NASA actually holds a patent (or an
app) on the Biefeld-Brown Effect for satellite station keeping, which,
, 2015 6:08 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:prototype for only $99,000
From Frank
http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/products
Fascinating. They make it clear that the device is still a prototype.
Hope they can pull it off. Thrust being 100-500 mN, I'm guessing that's the
approximate weight
Seems their Kickstarter funding went very well! NOOOT..
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1736145169/the-spacecraft-propulsion-breakthrough-of-the-21st?ref=nav_search
They pledged $125,000 but reached $1,993.
A quote from the comments section:
Yes, our device is attempting to exploit the
without some exhaust.
Dave
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Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:08 pm
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From Frank
http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com
-Original Message-
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:08 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:prototype for only $99,000
From Frank
http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/products
Fascinating. They make
From Frank
http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/products
Fascinating. They make it clear that the device is still a prototype. Hope they
can pull it off. Thrust being 100-500 mN, I'm guessing that's the approximate
weight (thrust) of a piece of paper as measured at the surface of
http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/products
direction of the
force. I hope it can work, but have my doubts without some exhaust.
Dave
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From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:08 pm
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orionwo...@charter.net
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Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 6:08 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:prototype for only $99,000
From Frank
http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/products
Fascinating. They make it clear that the device is still a prototype. Hope they
can
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