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This is one of the possibilities- it is not easy to solve, process- enerich, dry, purify Ni)- that's not +10% of the price, it is is more than X times the price of Nickel. I have retired (in 1999) from the local Institute of Stable Isotopes- producing isotopes of Li, C, N, products marked see pleas

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In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:18:59 +0300: Hi, [snip] >Other - I bet that Rossi's nickel is NOt isotopically enriched in any way, >in order to separate isotopes you have to bring the metal in a fluid form >liquid or gaseous. > How about a salt in solution? Regards, Rob

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In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:32:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Suppose it turns out you can extract much more energy per gram >from a Pd-D system than Ni-H. I'm fairly sure that isn't the case. Most nuclear fusion reactions yield about 5 MeV / amu (ballpark). Nuclear fission

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Dear Robin, The reason is first of all historical- for 21.85 years and 15 ICCFs we have tried to explore, understand and make use of the palladium- deuterium systems,first of all. Scientifically these are OK, but it is a problem of principle is POSSIBLE to use them as an energy source? A reliable

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wrote: > Why would we want a technology based upon scarce (& expensive) substances > (Pd & > D) when we can have one based on cheap and readily available ones (Ni & H)? > For the next several years I think researchers should concentrate on Ni-H, but I think it would be a good idea to revisit ot

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In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300: Hi, [snip] >And enrichment is very expensive & difficult. ...and so unnecessary. If the reactions to stable copper are preferred (by the reaction mechanism itself) above other reactions, then Ni62 & Ni64 will automatically be s

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In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300: Hi, [snip] >I don't see any reason for wjich >an isotope of nickel could function better than an other isotope of >nickel??? I explained this in a previous post. The "neutron rich" isotopes probably have a higher nuclear cross

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In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:26:41 +0300: Hi, [snip] >And, in principle. will we ever have a technologizable Pd-D cold fusion? Why would we want a technology based upon scarce (& expensive) substances (Pd & D) when we can have one based on cheap and readily available o

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"It was told me that some of the spurious results that have plagued the CF community for the past 20 years is due to the fact that the process is extremely susceptible to environmental/weather changes." If we speak about Pd-D, perhaps the best is to find out what was the best, most consistent, pow

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>From Peter Gluck: ... > I don't uinderstend exactly your idea with the prper pressure- they add > hydrogen, this is adsorbed in part, you cannot add exactly a dosis of > hydrogen- but surely there is a "best practices" type protocol here. My apologies, Peter. Let me try to clarify my previous

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Hi, I agree with Jed. My first-hand personal experience with Italian people is the same. Having to talk with them in meetings during several days can be very exhausting due to their different pronounciation and sometimes misunderstanding of the English language. My personal classic example is

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Yessir! normal, matural clean Ni ready to be nanometrized and degassed properly. Isotopic enrichment is very difficult and costly.. I don't uinderstend exactly your idea with the prper pressure- they add hydrogen, this is adsorbed in part, you cannot add exactly a dosis of hydrogen- but surely the

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>From Terry and Peter: ... > I'm willing to bet that Peter Gluck is right and Rossi bakes his Ni in > a vacuum to remove the gaseous impurities then puts it in the reaction > chamber under the bell jar.  I think the "catalyst" is a red herring. Meaning Rossi's Ni contains naturally found isotopi

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Thank you Terry! Sorry for sleeping during this looong thread- geography is destiny even on the short term. It is not excluded that he adds something to the nickel that helps for a better nanostructure genesis or for an easier, faster and more thorough removal of the gases from the active surface.

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g out what catalysts he is using. _ From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 7:36:44 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread From: Jed Rothwell HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. * It is obvious beca

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In reply to noone noone's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:36:54 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >I do not think he is lying about this. > >I think he is telling us the truth. > >The only downside is that even though the enrichment only costs 10% of the >cost >of the nickel the final amount of nickel fuel

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Jones Beene wrote: > And then, when carrying out this ruse – he gets caught in obvious lies - > instead of condemnation, you want to go easy on him because he does not > speak the English language very well ? > I have experienced worse misunderstandings and miscommunication with Arata in Engl

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In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:30:42 -0400: Hi, [snip] > > >On 04/11/2011 08:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: >> noone noone > > wrote: >> >> ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! >> >> >> Wow! That is a revelation. He _has_ learned from Piante

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:47:05 -0400: Hi, [snip] >A further consequence of the LENR evaluation leads to the ratios R (n) (n = >1, 2, 3…) of the Boltzmann probabilities, namely R (n) = 3n. This suggests >a threefold property of stable configurations at magic numbers i

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Jones Beene wrote: > HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. > > Ø It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does > sometimes make himself clear. > > > > Baloney. Where did he say this? > > > > Bologna? > He said in his blog many times, with statement

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. From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 7:36:44 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread From:Jed Rothwell HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. Ø It is obvious because he has said it, clearly

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From: Jed Rothwell HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. * It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does sometimes make himself clear. Baloney. Where did he say this? Bologna? * I don't see anything untoward about it. Of course he doesn

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Axil Axil wrote: > Mae West : "Don't keep a man guessing too long--he's sure to find the > answer somewhere else." I love it! - Jed

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Jones Beene wrote: > > >>HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. >> > It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does > sometimes make himself clear. > > I don't see anything untoward about it. Of c

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I find it strange that the Swedes did not incorporate their isotopic analysis in their report. Harry > >From: Jed Rothwell >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 9:49:04 PM >Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread > > >Harry Veed

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Harry Veeder wrote: > > >> Kullander: . . . The isotopic analysis through >> >> ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of >> nickel and copper." >> > > This has to be a misunderstanding. Believe me, I have ha

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Jones Beene wrote: > HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now. > It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does sometimes make himself clear. I don't see anything untoward about it. Of course he doesn't want replication! It would endanger his intellectual pr

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I uploaded a question about this to his blog, here: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=338&cpage=2 It has not shown up yet. - Jed

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Harry Veeder wrote: > Kullander: . . . The isotopic analysis through > ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of > nickel and copper." > This has to be a misunderstanding. Believe me, I have had many misunderstandings trying to communicate with Rossi, and often

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Jones, From the April 6th NyTeknik article:    "NyTeknik: What results have you obtained from the analyses?   Kullander: Both measurements show that the pure nickel powder contains mainly nickel, and the used powder is different in that several elements are present, mainly 10 percent copper and 1

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. From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 6:20:50 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:15 PM, noone noone wrote: > He has found some process of removing some of the other isotopes so that > there is a

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noone noone wrote: > He has found some process of removing some of the other isotopes so that > there is a higher percentage of Ni62 and Ni64. This process costs about two > dollars. This is probably due to the chemicals used. > Look up "isotope separation methods" and you will see that chemica

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I'm willing to bet that Peter Gluck is right and Rossi bakes his Ni in a vacuum to remove the gaseous impurities then puts it in the reaction chamber under the bell jar. I think the "catalyst" is a red herring. T

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On 04/11/2011 08:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > noone noone > wrote: > > ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! > > > Wow! That is a revelation. He _has_ learned from Piantelli. > > It is surprising he can do this for 10% of the cost of nickel. It's also surprising that t

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Ackshully, the implication here is that someone is getting tooo close to the truth. T

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:15 PM, noone noone wrote: > He has found some process of removing some of the other isotopes so that > there is a higher percentage of Ni62 and Ni64. This process costs about two > dollars. This is probably due to the chemicals used. Bovine tripe, IMNSHO. Rossi is stir

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ickel was enriched there is probably less than one kilogram of nickel remaining. There was no dishonesty in any of this. From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 5:54:27 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation T

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Why waste time with this nonsense? Because it's fun? Fizzix is fun! Personally, I contribute Rossi's success to spintronics! Not. T

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From: noone noone Dear Mr Mattias Carlsson: Yes, we do. Warm Regards, A.R. ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! Now, does this tell us anything about the type of catalyst he uses? No – but it tells us volumes about someone’s basic honesty, doesn’t it ? At least when you place this informati

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noone noone wrote: ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL! > Wow! That is a revelation. He *has* learned from Piantelli. It is surprising he can do this for 10% of the cost of nickel. It is surprising how much he reveals in his blog. I hope it does not endanger his intellectual property. At the same time,

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noone noone wrote: Does this tell us anything new? > > Dear “HRG”: > My process has nothing to do with Widom Larsen Theory. > Indeed! This tells us that Steve Krivit will soon reveal that Rossi is a fraud, a cad, he snatches candy from babies, and throws stones at innocent songbirds. - Jed

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. From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:47:05 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps you >could direct me. > &

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, does this tell us anything about the type of catalyst he uses? From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:32:05 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Okay, the problem, as I see it, is overcoming the binding energy of > the quarks in the proton.  This blender would require energy levels > equivalent to those soon after the BB! This would require about 1 GeV as I understand it. T Not th

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > > It is as if a large amount of hydrogen atoms together with some other > atoms > > like nickel go into a quantum mechanical blender and turned into a > coherent > > quark soup. > > > Ok

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > It is as if a large amount of hydrogen atoms together with some other atoms > like nickel go into a quantum mechanical blender and turned into a coherent > quark soup. Okay, the problem, as I see it, is overcoming the binding energy of the qua

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps you > could direct me. > > Thanks! > > T > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton > wrote: > >> > >> O

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Okay; but, I cannot find the issue on proton breakdown. Perhaps you could direct me. Thanks! T On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >> > The pressure >> > buildup

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > The pressure > > buildup is so intense, the atoms stop being atoms, and the nucleus of the > > former hydrogen atoms breaks apart into it's constituent protons, which > then > > break ap

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:23:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Doing the first test, .25 grams of hydrogen was loaded into one gram of >nickel. That is an enormous amount of hydrogen to pack into a very small >quantity of nickel. If I calculated correctly, this is 15 H to each Ni

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:23:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] >What the function of the X2O3 does is absorb hydrogen is vast amounts by >packing the hydrogen atoms into a vast number of countless holes and defects >in the crystal structure of this X2O3 oxide compound. > > > >This

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I meant that Axil Axil's essay is a remarkable synthesis. As far as I can tell. It is remarkable how much information can be gleaned from Rossi's publications and comments. You could not gather this much about Fleischmann and Pons at Technova, for example, because only Johnson Matthey knew ab

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > The pressure > buildup is so intense, the atoms stop being atoms, and the nucleus of the > former hydrogen atoms breaks apart into it's constituent protons, which then > break apart into their constituent sub-particles (quarks and gluons), which

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In reply to SHIRAKAWA Akira's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:44:33 +0200: Hi, [snip] >On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: > >> -- Forwarded message -- >[...] > >This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely >onto something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also

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Axil Axil wrote: Deuterium impurities in the hydrogen will make formation of a fermionic condensate impossible. This is why a small percentage (2% to 3%) of deuterium will kill the Rossi reaction. Did Rossi say that? I don't recall that. Let's add that to the list of What We Know From Ross

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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:05:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The iron assay in the ash is higher than even copper. So how did it get so >high? The proton fusion theory of nickel does not support the transmutation >of iron. The Miley theory of natural isotopic abundance that I pr

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil wrote:.. > > > So sorry...please excuse me, I am just begining to learn the vortex > ropes. > > No, I apologize. We have speculated for so long. > > T > > >From Axil The following speculation i

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Harry Veeder wrote: disingenuous is stating that the reaction chamber is made of stainless steel. Why? Stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. If stainless steel takes a few minutes longer to reach the maximum temperature that is hardly a drawback if the Ecat runs for weeks or days or eve

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Axil Axil wrote:.. > So sorry...please excuse me, I am just begining to learn the vortex ropes. No, I apologize. We have speculated for so long. T

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> >From: Axil Axil >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 5:05:37 PM >Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread > > > > >There has been speculation within the cold-fusion community that Rossi is >being >disingenuous is stati

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Axil Axil wrote: IF maghemite(Fe2O3) is used in the Rossi process, and if the Rossi reaction depends on the magnetic behavior of Iron oxide nanoparticles . . . Okay, that's 2 elements, and it would not add much to the cost. ~10%? Essen did not say there was oxygen but he didn't say there w

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On 2011-04-11 23:57, Axil Axil wrote: The following speculation is offered as a springboard for discussion as regards to the chemical and physical processes that underlie the Rossi reactor. This is another attempt to connect the dots. " I haven't seen that part appear here. Should I sent it a

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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:44 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- >> > [...] > > This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely onto > something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also be quite cheap to add to

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On 2011-04-11 23:04, Axil Axil wrote: -- Forwarded message -- [...] This is an extremely interesting, well thought post; you're definitely onto something. Iron oxide (=rust) would also be quite cheap to add to nickel power which is consistent to what we've read so far on char

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There has been speculation within the cold-fusion community that Rossi is being disingenuous is stating that the reaction chamber is made of stainless steel. Why? Stainless steel is a poor conductor of heat. It could also be a way to justify the presence of a large amount of iron in the ash; a co

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-- Forwarded message -- From: Axil Axil Date: Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:18 PM Subject: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat CATALYST Speculation Thread To: thesteornpa...@yahoo.com This part of the Rossi patent caught my attention: “The present inventor, moreover, has also accurately studies the fol