Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread David Roberson
This is excellent news. I look forward to seeing the report. I hope that many of the questions that still remain unanswered will be settled this time. How I wish that the output water stream from the heat exchanger primary of the October 6 test had been accurately measured. Figuring out

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
That's excellent news. Very open of Rossi. Entirely reasonable. We complain about Rossi's habits, but you have give him credit for allowing a lot of access to this tests, and for giving out a great deal of information. The problem is not that he is unwilling to share data. It is that his tests do

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Cousin Jed, I simply think Rossi wants to convince the Customer and all the potential customers that he already has a usable industrial product, however in fact he has only some technologically underdeveloped generators. Defkalion has called them lab prototypes. Like a car that has some weak

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: I simply think Rossi wants to convince the Customer and all the potential customers that he already has a usable industrial product, however in fact he has only some technologically underdeveloped generators. Defkalion has called them lab prototypes.

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
I am currently of the opinion that all the resistance to accepting the possibility of cold fusion is irrational on the part of many. This irrational way of thinking, the reluctance to accept new things, and he emotional disruption of the judgment process may be rooted in the fact that cold fusion

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Having been faced with this clear and growing resistance to cold fusion, early on, Rossi decided that a logical scientific argument was not the best way to present cold fusion to the world. Yes, that is what he said. Rossi instinctively recognized that

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Joe Catania
Physics is natural science. - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway. That's excellent news. Very open of Rossi. Entirely reasonable. We complain about

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:11:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] The only part I do not get is: Why 1 MW? 10 kW is just as persuasive. There is probably a ~$500 billion marketplace for small reactors, say from 1 to 50 kW. Current world population is about 7 billion. Divided by

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
“The only part I do not get is: Why 1 MW? 10 kW is just as persuasive.” Whether it is true or not, Rossi believes that the large size reactor format is the easiest to get to market because this form needs to conform far less to regulation, bureaucratic restriction, and brouhaha. He believes

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: The only part I do not get is: Why 1 MW? 10 kW is just as persuasive. There is probably a ~$500 billion marketplace for small reactors, say from 1 to 50 kW. Current world population is about 7 billion. Divided by 3 gives roughly 2 billion households. 2 billion

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Alan Fletcher
The usual Rossi-speak confusion : this is a test, this is only a test Andrea Rossi October 23rd, 2011 at 3:55 PM October 23rd, 2011 at 3:55 PM Dear H. Visscher: The test will be on the 28th. The tests will be on the 28th. But we are making our preliminar tests. Warm Regards, AR I think it's the

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: The usual Rossi-speak confusion : this is a test, this is only a test Ha, ha! Well said. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: The usual Rossi-speak confusion : this is a test, this is only a test.. In the event of an actual test, you will be provided with official information and test data however

RE: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
T Minus 75 hours and counting. Warm water at approximately 35 C has been flowing through the pipes for 12 hours now. So far no abnormalities have been noticed. At T minus 24 hours temperatures will be increased by one centigrade on the hour. The nickel powder cells till be installed at T minus

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:55:48 -0500: Hi, [snip] Catalyst will flood the nickel cells at T minus 13 minutes. ...so the catalyst is a gas. :) ..any bets on which one? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:1 MW plant testing is underway.

2011-10-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and eCat bubble... Harry