RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axel, Robin, ... and others. So far, everyone has danced around offering any conjecture pertaining to my original question. The crux of my original question was: When a chain reaction is initiated what are the speculated temperature ranges, both the high AND LOW VALUES? Plenty of discussion

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 8:46 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain Axel, Robin, ... and others. So far, everyone has danced around offering any conjecture pertaining to my original

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:46 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: But so far no one has discussed and/or offered any speculation as to the lower temperature limit. IOW, how cool can the chain reaction be kept more-or-less sustainable? I think the control of

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Axel If you need an exact number, the start temperature is not that high. In the Sweden test, the water temperature was pushed up to 60C by the external heater before the reaction became gainful. The internal heater was also in action. So my guess is that the temperature of the

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 14:48:52 -0500: Hi, [snip] From Axel If you need an exact number, the start temperature is not that high. In the Sweden test, the water temperature was pushed up to 60C by the external heater before the reaction

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Robin: ... What makes you think it has to be 400 C to start? Nothing would tickle me more to learn that the initialization temperature is less than that 400 C. But then, maybe it needs to be greater than 400 C. I dunno! My initial starting point was loosely based on previous literature

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
FYI http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29. *Initial running to reach vaporization. *The temperatures of the inlet water and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater was connected

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 18:55:32 -0400: Hi, [snip] *Initial running to reach vaporization. *The temperatures of the inlet water and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater was connected at 10:25 and the boiling point was reached at

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axel, Robin, Thank you, both of you, for humoring me. I was aware of the March 29 report. I had already downloaded it. I was also aware of Figure 6 showing the evolution of temperature changes over time. However, having Axel specifically point out the kink that is recorded at around 60 C was

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Andrea Selva
Some more questions Where the plot of the electrical power vs time is ? Where the monitoring of Rossi hands over the pump and heaters controls is ? Where the steam dryness measures are ? 2011/5/27 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net Axel, Robin, Thank you, both of you,

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Wed, 25 May 2011 16:37:04 -0500: Hi, [snip] Perhaps I've misunderstood a fundamental aspect concerning how excess energy is supposed to be extracted from Rossi's e-cats. Is it rather the situation where once 500 C is reached (by external

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Thanks for your input, Robin I wouldn't mind additional commentary from the collective. ;-) Are there differing views opinions on this matter? Once again, I post my original questions [slightly reedited for clarification]: Perhaps I've misunderstood a fundamental aspect concerning how

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
Reactivity is directly related to the tendency of the Rossi reactor core to change power level: if reactivity is positive, the power level tends to increase; if it is negative, the power tends to decrease; if it is zero, the power tends to remain stable. The reactivity of the reactor may be