Jed wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
Toast? no I don't think so.
The Russians slapped Amercians in the face by putting a satellite and a man
in orbit first.
JR: Good point.
MC: Taking a global view, it doesn't matter who commercializes CF or BLP
first. In 20 years it won't matter. If China were to
Harry Veeder wrote:
Toast? no I don't think
so.
The Russians slapped Amercians in the face by putting a satellite and a
man in orbit first.
Good point.
People wishing to play up this angle of the story -- in a message to
someone in the media, for example -- should mention that cold fusion was
rat
Vince Cockeram wrote:
Well, I don't know how much good it will do but here is a copy I sent
to the DOE this morning.
I think it would be more effective to contact newspapers, bloggers and
other people in the media, rather than contacting the DoE directly.
I was going to mention here that a Google
Title: Re: a cause celebre?
Toast? no I don't think so.
The Russians slapped Amercians in the face by putting a satellite and a man in orbit first.
Harry
RC Macaulay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Short but to the point.. Storms put it in context... If China get CF before we do, we are
Tokamaks et al. Fifty years is enough.
Sincerely,
Vincent Cockeram
Las Vegas Nevada
= end
Should I expect a visit from the MIB?
Vince
- Original Message -
From: "Edmund Storms"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:06 AM
Sub
Steve,
> Good food for thought Jones.
>
> Then how about a cube of Pd ...out in the desert ... video
cameras rolling
> ...seismologists given advance warning?
Make that a cube of Pd-Sb-Cl instead of Pd, some LN to
"cryo-temper" the cube with (kind of like the pastis or
Pernod ritual, Fred presi
Good food for thought Jones.
Then how about a cube of Pd ...out in the desert ... video cameras rolling
...seismologists given advance warning?
Steve
At 07:25 am 28-02-05 -0800, Jones wrote:
> Steve, Frank et al.
>
> Speaking of this "incident" i.e.
>
>>> Charles called the "incident" a meltdown. I'm not quite
>>> sure why he labeled it as such. The hole in the concrete
>>> floor was 30cm wide by 10cm deep. Somebody want to tell me
>>> th
Did F&P ever tell what was so special about their Palladium? These people know:
http://www.matthey.com/
but they weren't talking either last time I heard. They add Antimony per Sparber's conjecture?
Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How much effort does that warrant?
Do you Yahoo!?
Ya
Steve, Frank et al.
Speaking of this "incident" i.e.
> Charles called the "incident" a meltdown. I'm not quite
sure why he labeled it as such. The hole in the concrete
floor was 30cm wide by 10cm deep. Somebody want to tell me
that the concrete *melted*? I don't think so.
>> That is an ext
Jed,
Just a thought .. it may be more strategic to posture DOE as acting more
"ridiculously" rather than "unfairly."
Steve
At 05:18 pm 27-02-05 -0800, you wrote:
> Frank,
>
>
>> You want press attention?
>>
>> I'll give you press attention.
>>
>> Start a research program to develop a CF bomb with the
>> avowed intention of saving America by getting there
>> before the terrorists do. You will get all the press
>> attent
Because he said he will probably retire. He is giving up. He has been
trying for years to get funding. He even thought of going to China. I shot
back an answer saying "Wait! I will do my best to help." The other readers
here should pitch in, and tell Mel Miles you stand with him.
- Jed
Jed,
I
Frank,
You want press attention?
I'll give you press attention.
Start a research program to develop a CF bomb with the
avowed intention of saving America by getting there
before the terrorists do. You will get all the press
attention you can handle - and then some. Probably
get quite a lot of fina
--- Grimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's no good saying "the development of small CF
> bombs is unlikely". Until we know why and how cold
> fusion works we are only guessing as to what's
> likely and what ain't.
On the contrary, consider the hypothetical situation
that the reason the DoE
RC Macaulay wrote:
> Suggestion,, the University may be challenged to match funds pledged by
> private business interests for the
> advancement of science.
As I said, Miles needs the cooperation of the government, not only for the
money, but for materials from the Navy.
- Jed
Gosh! Keith.. Grimer has me in here because I'm crazy,
not stupid. Going to Houston doesn't mean sticking my head in Exxon's mouth. The
idea is to approach money for " seed " money. Foundations love to" participate"
NOT carry the bucket.
Besides, you fudged on the pic of the girl.. she's no
A defeatist attitude insures only one thing .. defeat.
A short story follows.. a few years back, at the
national Weftec conference we had a booth exhibiting our product line. At the
time Vivendi-US Filter of France was the king of the hill in water treating
equipment manufacturing. Overhe
At 02:28 pm 27-02-05 -0500, Jed wrote:
>Frank Grimer writes:
>
>> I have a suggestion - but you will probably find it far
>> too Machiavellian. I believe, and I speak from real life
>> experience, that the best way to get people's attention
>> is to scare the shit out of them.
> I could fr
Short but to the point.. Storms put it in context... If
China get CF before we do, we are toast.
Of the alternates suggested.. jealousy, vanity,lust
and.. the best motivation is "Greed"
Suggestion,, the University may be challenged to match
funds pledged by private business interests for
Hi Ed,
you write:
>Granted this is a sign of failure. However, we are not using fear,
>only embarrassment, at least with respect to the DOE. The population
>needs to realize the advantages of CF. The fear only comes if the
>advantages are ignored, in the same manner death comes if the advan
Keith Nagel wrote:
Frank writes:
You wrote "I asked Mel Miles whether he thinks it
is over the top." Goodness me! You sound like
Ned Flanders. All credit to Mel Miles for his
gutsey reply. Why on earth did it depress you.
I can't answer for Ed or Jed, but it depresses me because
it's a sign of
Take a page from Howard Dean. Credit Card donations over the internet.
Lots of money can be collected in a grass roots campaign...
-john
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
As for what else we can do . . . Does anyone here have suggestions? If
there are step
Frank writes:
>You wrote "I asked Mel Miles whether he thinks it
>is over the top." Goodness me! You sound like
>Ned Flanders. All credit to Mel Miles for his
>gutsey reply. Why on earth did it depress you.
I can't answer for Ed or Jed, but it depresses me because
it's a sign of desperation and
If Mel does get an experiment going, it might attract more attention than most
CF research does. Suppose he is funded after a well-publicized battle, partly
because a half-dozen reporters publish his story. Six months later, we call
those reporters back and say, "guess what, it worked." My guess
Michael Foster writes:
> Would you care to tell us how much money would constitute
> funding for Mel Miles? When you know what your goal is
> it's usually easier to reach.
Good question. I have no idea. I have copied this response to Miles.
Perhaps part of the goal here is to get "official" mon
Jed wrote:
> Because he said he will probably retire. He is giving up.
> He has been trying for years to get funding. He even
> thought of going to China. I shot back an answer saying
> "Wait! I will do my best to help." The other readers here
> should pitch in, and tell Mel Miles you stand with
Frank Grimer writes:
> I have a suggestion - but you will probably find it far
> too Machiavellian. I believe, and I speak from real life
> experience, that the best way to get people's attention
> is to scare the shit out of them.
I could frighten them if I could get their attention, but the
Dear Frank,
I totally agree with you. The time for being nice has past. The DOE
has shown gross dishonesty and the energy situation is getting out of
hand. The "Manifesto" is just the start. With a little luck and enough
effort, we hope to get the public concerned. However, I have no
allus
At 06:10 pm 26-02-05 -0500, Jed wrote:
> A mainstream CF researcher asked Ed Storms and I to
> tone down or remove the Manifesto we posted on Thursday,
> "THE DOE LIES!" I asked Mel Miles whether he thinks it
> is over the top. He replied with a very depressing message.
> He says he understand
RC Macaulay wrote:
I will need the name of the University working with Mel.
University of La Verne
http://www.ulv.edu/
He is teaching there.
- Jed
deductible donations for their non
profit efforts.
-ak-
> [Original Message]
> From: Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2/26/2005 3:11:02 PM
> Subject: A cause celebre?
>
> A mainstream CF researcher asked Ed Storms and I
Jed,
There is a lot of research money out there in the " non
profit foundation sector".
Interesting in they are looking at " matching"
grants. Find a few bucks that some private industry groups will pledge and
the foundations will match or sometimes provide up to 5:1 or 10:1 matching. Th
This problem has my mind twisting and roiling.
Jed, your frustration and that of Ed Storms is
palpable, and I can understand why.
Here are some suggestions. Keep the Manifesto.
It worked pretty well for Marx. It worked pretty
well for the Bauhaus. I was going to suggest that
the public is inur
uld try to make this a
cause celebre. Perhaps this time the public will see that the opposition has
gone too far. Ed & I are trying to stir up the public with out bold red
headline, but so far the response has been lukewarm. 150 copies of the
Manifesto have been downloaded.
I am not sure
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