[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-27 Thread Niphlod
900k and 10 secs for what page in particular ? On Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:32:13 PM UTC+2, Simon Ashley wrote: > > Experiencing slow screen loads using the standard admin app when editing > an application. > Both admins load the same amount of data (900k) but 2.0.9 load in 2.3secs, > with 2

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-27 Thread Simon Ashley
Exiting a controller to return to the main page (back button). i.e. loads /admin/default/design Downloaded a new source/ nightly build and seems to be better - 5.3 seconds, 839k, but still seems a little bit long. --

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-27 Thread Niphlod
disclaimer: all times are measured on localhost, so you don't have net bottlenecks, and are the time taken from firebug, Firefox 16 on Ubuntu (not the "onload" time, that is the one taken to transfer the page and all the js and css, but the one taken to fully render the page) admin/default/des

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-27 Thread Simon Ashley
just to be clear we're running localhost on an i7 with 8g ram. The benchmark is taken returning back to the *admin/default/design/someapp *page from inside a controller. (hitting the *back* button to right of screen) (original reply may have been a bit confusing) Benchmarks with Win7 1. Chrom

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-27 Thread Simon Ashley
Ubuntu 12.04, with a standard web2py install /apache/sqlite: Chromium /admin/default/design 2.51 sec (repeatable) Firefox - 2.47 (repeatable) (on load 4.7) Summary: 2x as quick as Win7 / Rocket. Slower than expected but acceptable. Certainly more productive than Win7 which was becoming a pain.

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-28 Thread Niphlod
then you have a bulky app, if /default/design/someapp is 800kb without static files On Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:34:21 AM UTC+1, Simon Ashley wrote: > > > Ubuntu 12.04, with a standard web2py install /apache/sqlite: Chromium > /admin/default/design 2.51 sec (repeatable) > Firefox - 2.47 (r

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-28 Thread Simon Ashley
Thanks but bulky, with all due respect, maybe not. >From one perspective, its less than 5% of our client/ server applications. Currently the web2py app is approx 120 tables, and 250 functions (over 25 controllers). C/S apps which we intend to convert handle the equivalent of 900 tables, 10,000

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-28 Thread Niphlod
No disrespect either, but let's say welcome is basic. The html of the admin/design/welcome is 80KB. Yours is 800kb, so 10x basic deserves the term "bulky" :-P Trying to manage it with the online editor seems a little counter-productive to me if the app is that big. If you are on localhost and

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-28 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Lots of people here are not english native speakers (I am not) and some times we use terms with their meaning according to the vocabulary, not intending a negative connotation. I have seen this problem before with many things I said. Once I used "haha" instead of a "aha" and people thought I wa

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-28 Thread Simon Ashley
#Niphlod. Sorry for my original original comment/ response. I always realised that there was a going to be a limit/ scalability issue with the admin app. It was intended more to stimulate debate/ ideas on how to handle bulky apps. (was hoping that we would come across it later rather than soon

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-29 Thread Niphlod
No need to apologize: probably I had to explain myself better what I meant as "bulky". As for execute/test functions if those are the ones serving a webpage, I'd say go directly to the app/controller/function with your browser. I normally have 4/5 functions I work on simultaneously and it's not

[web2py] Re: admin app 4 x slower with 2.2.1 versus 2.0.9

2012-10-29 Thread Simon Ashley
Yep, that makes a lot of sense. Tried that approach with Komodo, and certainly is more productive. Just a change in mind set. Thanks for your reply. --