[web2py] Re: Web2py with python3: difference in error reporting

Some python3 error issues were fixed in master branch https://github.com/web2py/web2py/pull/2045 . Not sure when new official version will be released. -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) -

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

*export_to_csv_file* under python2 , no problem under python3 , the following problem File "C:\Users\assus\Desktop\Flash\python3\web2py_2_17_2_src\web2py\gluon\packages\dal\pydal\objects.py", line 2619, in export_to_csv_file writer.writerow(unquote_colnames(colnames)) TypeError: a

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

*Did some quick tests with python 3.5.2 and it seems now web2py master branch is python3 compatible.* *Is there anything , I should worry before switching it to a production modus.* On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 2:08:43 PM UTC+2, Richard wrote: > > No problem... I can't say when Massimo's

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

No problem... I can't say when Massimo's gonna disclose his new framework, you have to ask him... But it should be soon as he compromise his self saying he has one in the pipeline... Keep tune... :) Richard On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:49 AM, Muhammad Hashim Malik < has...@rehmansoft.com> wrote:

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Dear Richard I know web2py can be used with python3, but, I want to play with web3py and waiting for that badly. Please dont' mind my restless waiting for new framework. Truly, Malik Muhammad Hashim *Malik M. Hashim* PO MCC(East) +92-300-3754107 On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Richard

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Muhammad, I don't recall any promise about a date mention by Massimo... Thanks to consider that all this is open source project and there is no specific timeline attach to these initiatives... web2py is still there and I guess we all can be confident that Massimo will take care to soften the

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

At Illumina Python 3 extensively. Bioinformatics, Web development, infrastructure scripting etc. At my group, it's no great hardship for us to use Python 2.7 in return for what web2py offers. But by default all our python is python3 https://www.illumina.com/ On Wednesday, 11 November 2015

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Please, let's give Massimo and the team the time to do it right. Massimo said 'maybe some code will be release at the end of April'. I didn't view that as an announcement. -Jim On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Muhammad Hashim Malik < has...@rehmansoft.com> wrote: > Badly waiting for web3py.

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Badly waiting for web3py. It was announced that web3py will be available​ at the end of April. On 12-Apr-2017 6:37 PM, "Massimo Di Pierro" wrote: May be some code will be released at the end of April. Very preliminary but I will be looking for feedback. On

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Please consider adding support for GraphQL, if I may suggest On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 9:51:11 AM UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > The main goal is to make it as close as possible to web2py but faster, > allow more flexibility and move more logic client-size. It will be smaller > than

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

the best news I've read in a long time! Can´t wait to use it.. :) On Sunday, April 16, 2017 at 9:51:11 AM UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > The main goal is to make it as close as possible to web2py but faster, > allow more flexibility and move more logic client-size. It will be smaller >

{Disarmed} Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Hi Massimo, I really like a lot what I am reading, is there some kind of schedule or todo list for this? I really will like to help on building this. Have you considered to include some functionality like symfony 2 bundles (http://symfony.com/doc/current/bundles.html) or Yii2 extensions

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

The main goal is to make it as close as possible to web2py but faster, allow more flexibility and move more logic client-size. It will be smaller than web2py. admin will look different but have similar functionality. the request/response objects will be the bottlepy ones. dal & templates are

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I love web2py but am excited to hear about your next framework. When do you think we might see a functional/preview? will it be recognizable to web2py users are a big departure? What are you thinking for the front-end, template/views like web2py or something more JavaScript like React/Vue? --

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

10x speed improve, I buy that anytime! :) Richard On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Marlysson Silva wrote: > Awesome!! Which features massimo? :D > > -- > Resources: > - http://web2py.com > - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) > - http://github.com/web2py/web2py

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Awesome!! Which features massimo? :D -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

May be some code will be released at the end of April. Very preliminary but I will be looking for feedback. On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 07:56:17 UTC-5, JorgeH wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 6:37:44 AM UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: >> >> >> >> I am working on web3py which is not

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 6:37:44 AM UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > > > I am working on web3py which is not to be confused with web2py for python > 3. For this reason it will have another name. It will not be compatible > with web2py (python 2 or python 3) but it will have a lot of

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

what has changed : https://docs.python.org/3/library/2to3.html [image: http://itjp.net.br] http://itjp.net.b r *Ovidio Marinho Falcao Neto* ovidio...@gmail.com

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Basically web2py works with python 3. Not thanks to me but thanks to the many excellent contributors. Have you tried: $ python3 web2py.py web2py with pyhton 2 and web2py with python use the same code base but are not compatible with each other for obvious reasons. I am working on web3py

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 1:15:55 PM UTC-7, JorgeH wrote: > > If what prevents the release of web2py python 3 ready are small details , > why not release 2 versions, one for python 3, and the other one for python > 3. > > Eventually, all the libraries will be ported to Py 3, or will be

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Good suggestion Paolo, I will try master asap, hope ealier than later as I am in the middle of a big refactoring... I was just stand up for the other that may ask them self what's going on. :) Richard On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Paolo Valleri wrote: > The best

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

The best is to test your apps with python3 and report any issues. After a test period, I agree regarding pushing a new release Paolo 2017-04-03 16:46 GMT+02:00 Richard Vézina : > Glad to hear that Leonel... > > But could we have "official" wrapup of the progress so

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Glad to hear that Leonel... But could we have "official" wrapup of the progress so far and where we heading to. Are we waiting m2crypto to become py3 compatible to release a new web2py version? I am sure we could benefit from a new web2py version if the master is not broken because of that (py3

[web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Alex pretty much the only thing missing for py3 support is for m2crypto which web2py depends on for X509 stuff to support python 3, according to their repository they're really close to finishing py3 support. So I would say we're almost

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Is there any progress or at least a timeline when web2py will officially support Python 3? It's 11 months since the last web2py release and I don't see much activity on github. So this is worrying me a little bit. I have a lot of web2py projects and I'll start a large project in a few months.

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

In the last months few patches have been accepted in the current master branch, as a result web2py core components can be tested on py3 too. Few features are missing see https://github.com/web2py/web2py/issues/1353. Feel free to try and report/fix any new issue discovered. Paolo On Thursday,

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Its about eight months passed but no news about web3py. What's the latest updated in this regard? On Wednesday, 25 May 2016 03:17:46 UTC+5, Dave S wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> >> Of course though as Massimo cited all education

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > Of course though as Massimo cited all education institutions are teaching > Python 3 and have for a time meaning all the new developers are starting > there. If they write new code bases it will be 3, every dev deals with

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Of course though as Massimo cited all education institutions are teaching Python 3 and have for a time meaning all the new developers are starting there. If they write new code bases it will be 3, every dev deals with legacy code but is that really the strongest position to take? On Tuesday,

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

So in case I missed it earlier in the discussion... *is there* a timetable (or even a beginning) for moving web2py to web3py, etc. or not? I found it kind of interesting that on the web2py site it touts the educational origins of web2py, but in posts above python 3 was dismissed as being only

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I'm still missing a clear strategy from the devs... I could understand if you don't have enough resources and ask for help (web2py is open source and anybody can contribute after all). But saying that python3 is useless and nobody wants it is not a good approach. It seems like most of you only

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

i feel this asciii / unicode pain quite often as i deal with data from all sorts of sources and much of it is text inputs from various users... i would love to see web2py move towards python3 On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 8:09:41 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote: > > I'm still missing a clear strategy

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I also have to work with unicode all the time. While it's true that python3 deals better with this issue, there is no way that web2py can move to python3 and our current code keeps working, precisely because of this issue. Our code has lots of .encode('utf8'), .decode('utf8'), unicode(...), etc.

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Another think about the problem and not sure if it relevent though... Let says that what make web2py not support python 3 is SQLFORM or other highlevel... We may leave them behind and write new tools which will be compatible with python 2 and 3... And we can prevent user that if they plan to use

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

;-) By now we can plan jump to python4 and skip the (arguably useful) python3 era entirely ;-) 2015-12-01 17:55 GMT+01:00 Richard Vézina : > Another think about the problem and not sure if it relevent though... > > Let says that what make web2py not support python 3

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

That is another option! :) Richard On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Michele Comitini wrote: > ;-) By now we can plan jump to python4 and skip the (arguably useful) > python3 era entirely ;-) > > 2015-12-01 17:55 GMT+01:00 Richard Vézina

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I've done my homework and agree Massimo. There is hardly a thing that requires python3 that doesn't work with python2. The only one i know is https://micropython.org/ but it's not a big company, nor a "big" product. Op woensdag 11 november 2015 16:21:18 UTC+1 schreef Massimo Di Pierro: > >

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

This explains the situation well python3 vs python2 , http://blog.thezerobit.com/2014/05/25/python-3-is-killing-python.html I think it made a big mess, not to carry the python2 internally in python3. And python3 is a serious candidate to die. And this is not good. [image:

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

This looks like an exaggeration to me, I don't think python3 or python will die anytime soon. And the article is already 1,5 years old. anyway, back to the topic. I don't think it would be wise to totally ignore python3. Further Massimo's argument that no large companies are using python3 (is

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I can't vouch for the accuracy, but here is what I've run across on the web regarding packages ported to python 3. https://python3wos.appspot.com/ Jim On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 6:04:07 AM UTC-6, Alex wrote: > > This looks like an exaggeration to me, I don't think python3 or python >

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I think that for the programmer is not so important the version..always if the last is not too old..Python 2.7 is not too old but the problem that i see is that there is a good guide and good forum..web2py have many good features, but the real problem that I find( I am a web2py developer from 5

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I agree that we should keep the name... It really difficult to explain that it the same thing if the name change... Richard On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Paolo Valleri wrote: > Maintaining web2py is not easy at all, how/who will maintain two > web2py/web3py? I see

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

What about a relax about backward compatibility with web2py 3.0? On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Dave S wrote: > > > On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-8, p a wrote: >> >> I like the idea of a new framework, using python 3 but that's not the >> most

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 2:09:45 PM UTC-8, p a wrote: > > I like the idea of a new framework, using python 3 but that's not the most > important. These days if we want to attract developers to our projects we > also need to have an API, and separated front end and back end. web2py is

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I like the idea of a new framework, using python 3 but that's not the most important. These days if we want to attract developers to our projects we also need to have an API, and separated front end and back end. web2py is great for the backend. The DAL is fantastic, and every time I get close

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I think that backward compatibility, when we look it from the distance, is more a bug that a feature. Let me explain before they fall on me like wolves... In my opinion, the backward compatibility restricts innovation, because we do not know what will happen within the next five years, and

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I would like to suggest a way to get out of these recurrent discussions... Why not adopt some guidance around the issue... I think the heart of the problem here is that not knowing what is coming or not make people insecure about the future of what is built (or could be build) with web2py. It may

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

+1 On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-6, Richard wrote: > > I would like to suggest a way to get out of these recurrent discussions... > > Why not adopt some guidance around the issue... I think the heart of the > problem here is that not knowing what is coming or not make people

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I wanted to add to this discussion as well. I think that developing with python 2.7 and web2py has been fine, however I have been really concerned as my application gets bigger that we are going to have to migrate to a .net or java based solution in the future. The more I develop, the more I

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Just to understand what we are talking about, which are the main issues in porting web2py on python 3.x ? Paolo On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 11:24:30 PM UTC+1, Ramos wrote: > > weppy looks like a short webp2y environment, however lacks some good > documentation like web2py and all of the

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Here it goes : List of relevant posts : Most relevant: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/web2py/X80Ol0Uumrg/vGrGtaeOVZwJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/web2py/mlG6-yHPa4g/MFAU9zX3jo4J https://groups.google.com/d/msg/web2py/WJOWlTnoz5I/y0-dQTywoHwJ The whole thread:

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Maintaining web2py is not easy at all, how/who will maintain two web2py/web3py? I see this as the major issue The old discussions were about the whole web2py, now there is pydal already working on python 3.x. Having a roadmap is a good way to proceed and surely github wiki is the place where

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

weppy looks like a short webp2y environment, however lacks some good documentation like web2py and all of the code samples are very short and errors come often. Seems that the only one helping is the "creator" itself. Unfortunately i dont see it as a good alternative to web2py. At least web2py

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

What are the chances that weppy (www.weppy.org) becomes the Python 3 version of web2py? I'm working with the newly available, officially supported Python implementation on IBM i (formerly AS/400) and it is Python version 3.4 so web2py isn't an option for me. Is there any news or direction for

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

I do not think it is a secret. As far as I know the security pricing infrastructure of Bank of America is based on proprietary object database built in Python and the JP Morgan Chase has been working for some time on an internal trading platform based on Python (do not know if it is in use at

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

As of today python 3 is used almost exclusively in schools. Do you know of any large company that uses Python 3? I do not. But I know many large companies that use Python 2, including banks. On Monday, 9 November 2015 01:36:40 UTC-6, Remco Boerma wrote: > > Great one Alex. > > While

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

What banks? can you share that info ? 2015-11-11 15:21 GMT+00:00 Massimo Di Pierro : > As of today python 3 is used almost exclusively in schools. Do you know of > any large company that uses Python 3? I do not. But I know many large > companies that use Python 2,

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 11:36:40 PM UTC-8, Remco Boerma wrote: > Many schools already teach things from a hundred years ago, let's not do > that in IT as well. > >> >>> Ah, well, General Relativity is 100 years old. Special Relativity (including E=MC^2) is slightly older. (Read that

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

Great one Alex. While searching for web2py and python3 the first result i got was this . > Hi...I m total beginner in python with elastic search also Unicode ... I > am looking for a wonderful framework & was keen on

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

web2py for python 3 would be great. I hope it comes rather sooner than later. I'd love to use python 3, no more str <-> unicode nonsense (which already caused many issues and wasted time for me), type hints (seems to have good support in PyCharm) and other new features. I think the current

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

> > I for one would completely remove the FORM code - it's nice and easy to > get something up and running but difficult to style (no clear separation of > backend/frontend) and extend. Note, you can still use the back end processing without using the front end, as long as you include the

[web2py] Re: web2py and python3

There will be a new framework similar to web2py for python 3. web2py has to be backward compatible and it is pointless to port it to python 3. On Wednesday, 4 November 2015 06:25:40 UTC-6, Jim Gregory wrote: > > I know this has come up in the past, but it hasn't been asked in a while. > > Is

Re: [web2py] Re: web2py and python3

@massimo When will it be available ? 2015-11-04 14:38 GMT+00:00 Massimo Di Pierro : > There will be a new framework similar to web2py for python 3. web2py has > to be backward compatible and it is pointless to port it to python 3. > > > On Wednesday, 4 November 2015

[web2py] Re: Web2Py and Python3

This was discussed at length. ;-) web2py MUST be backward compatible by definition therefore it will not be ported to python 3 (this is a lie, it was forked and ported twice but we keep it a secret). There will be a web3py (perhaps under a different name) which will work with python 2 and